Feeler of Interest: FMIC Kits per Body

[Dave]

I need to know the level of interest in front mount intercooler kits. I'll be fabbing these kits for specific chassis. The kits will include a quality intercooler with smooth flowing end tanks and high fin counts, 2.5" SS intercooler piping (mostly welded), 4 play couplers, high quality T-bolt clamps, all applicable bracketry where needed, all with a no hack-job (no cutting or welding) installation. Some drilling may be required for intercooler support.

The kits will be designed entirely for a 100% stock vehicle. I will change up the kits upon request (Ex. different size pipes or couplers) for no additional charge as for starting out, the kits will be made to order.

I will even offer high quality media blasting and painting for an additional cost. If youve seen our van, you'll love the paint. :nod:

Starting off, I'm speculating around $350 per kit.

Please let me know if you would be interested in a kit. If so let me know year/make/model as well.

Thanks!
-Bryan

[1984rampage]

I would for $350.. L-body but its gotta look clean and be a GOOD intercooler.. The kit would really take the hassle of piecing together piping for those who cant weld like myself :)

[jl93sundance]

What size intercooler would be included?

[Polygon]

What size intercooler would be included?

This!

Also, how much will it flow, how much pressure drop? Also, what routing will the pipe take?

[Dave]

I would for $350.. L-body but its gotta look clean and be a GOOD intercooler.. The kit would really take the hassle of piecing together piping for those who cant weld like myself :)

It will be. :thumb:


What size intercooler would be included?

That's dependant on the application. It'll be as big as possible.


This!

Also, how much will it flow, how much pressure drop? Also, what routing will the pipe take?

I have no numbers on it yet as that will be decided. The routing will depend on the application. I'd like to keep the kits designed with no cutting so it will be different.

[mcglsr2]

i am possibly interested - i will be doing a FMIC on my car at some point in the future. i was planning on doing it myself, but i am interested in what you are talking about. how would you set it up? would it be a horizontal or vertical flow intercooler?

[DodgeZ]

http://boostedmopar.com/temp/dave.jpg

[DodgeZ]

Dave, The real question is, A/C or non-A/C

[Dave]

i am possibly interested - i will be doing a FMIC on my car at some point in the future. i was planning on doing it myself, but i am interested in what you are talking about. how would you set it up? would it be a horizontal or vertical flow intercooler?

In most cases it will be a vertical intercooler. It's more suitable for engines like ours, plus the higher fin count over the core really helps with flow and keeping the pressure stable.


Dave, The real question is, A/C or non-A/C


Haha oh man. Thanks for taking me back, Kevin. ;)

The kits will be intended for vehicles still equipped with A/C.

[GLHNSLHT2]

a/c isn't the problem, it's the full size rad that sometimes get's in the way.

[DodgeZ]

a/c isn't the problem, it's the full size rad that sometimes get's in the way.

:confused:

[turbokid]

http://boostedmopar.com/temp/dave.jpg

I have 2 custom welded brackets for my FMIC on my daytona that arent as (McGyver-ish) so to speak.
They work great

[mcglsr2]

a/c isn't the problem, it's the full size rad that sometimes get's in the way.

agreed, particularly with a vertical flow cooler. however, this kit used in conjunction with the new rad being produced by TU would work very well.

[GLHNSLHT2]

:confused:


What's confusing. You can get one 2.5" pipe around either side of the a/c condensor by the frame rails easy. But the full size T1 rad, specifically the 90+ versions make it a little tight.

[Dave]

What's confusing. You can get one 2.5" pipe around either side of the a/c condensor by the frame rails easy. But the full size T1 rad, specifically the 90+ versions make it a little tight.

Right. I may construct the pipes under the core support. This way no cutting of the core support is required.

I'll try to get these kits under way soon. It all depends how quickly I can find local vehicles in stock trim. That will be the most difficult part.

Right now I just have a 1989 Acclaim that belongs to one of my friends.

[1966 dart wagon]

I was looking at getting a FMIC so this would be perfect

[Dave]

Well, for all who are interested could you please tell me your year/make/model so I can start doing some developmental work and locating the vehicles.

Thanks.
-Bryan

[DodgeZ]

What's confusing. You can get one 2.5" pipe around either side of the a/c condensor by the frame rails easy. But the full size T1 rad, specifically the 90+ versions make it a little tight.

without cutting?

[1984rampage]

Well, for all who are interested could you please tell me your year/make/model so I can start doing some developmental work and locating the vehicles.

Thanks.
-Bryan

1985 Dodge Shelby Charger.. Id prefer the pipes to run besides the radiator rather than under the core support but whatever works works :thumb:

[Dave]

1985 Dodge Shelby Charger.. Id prefer the pipes to run besides the radiator rather than under the core support but whatever works works :thumb:

If there's room I'll certainly do that.

[mcglsr2]

If there's room I'll certainly do that.

i too would personally prefer the pipes to run adjacent to the rad - however there will be a couple issues there. from what i understand, you must have the smaller TII (or equivalent size) radiator for the space to exist without cutting metal. also, the condenser - since we are talking about keeping the A/C - runs the entire width of the T2 rad+intercooler. so there is NO gap, even if the rad is the smaller one, the condenser will be in the way. a smaller, L body or custom condenser would have to be used to allow the pipes to pass through the area where the stock T2 intercooler was.

so i guess the only option without forcing a potential rad change and a for sure condenser change would be to run the pipes under the front.

[DodgeZ]

i too would personally prefer the pipes to run adjacent to the rad - however there will be a couple issues there. from what i understand, you must have the smaller TII (or equivalent size) radiator for the space to exist without cutting metal. also, the condenser - since we are talking about keeping the A/C - runs the entire width of the T2 rad+intercooler. so there is NO gap, even if the rad is the smaller one, the condenser will be in the way. a smaller, L body or custom condenser would have to be used to allow the pipes to pass through the area where the stock T2 intercooler was.

so i guess the only option without forcing a potential rad change and a for sure condenser change would be to run the pipes under the front.


:hail::hail::hail: we have a winner!

[Polygon]

Well, here's a FMIC kit someone on here made for their Daytona, shelbymopar89. I think this would be the best FMIC kit routing.

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbd.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbe.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbf.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbg.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbh.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbi.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbj.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbk.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbl.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbm.jpg

[DodgeZ]

note the lack of A/C

[Polygon]

note the lack of A/C

I don't think that you would HAVE to lose it with that setup.

[mcglsr2]

i just see the red x's for pics...

[Dave]

To do something like that, for most models, would require moving the radiator 2.75"+ to the passenger's side, to do that you would need to also move the A/C condensor over equally, shorten the lower hose, lengthen the upper hose and supply bracketry. I can certainly do it. I'll have to see what I have to work with depending on the body.

Every chasis will be different. Time will only tell once I get a few test vehicles in to do some research and planning.

[Polygon]

To do something like that, for most models, would require moving the radiator 2.75"+ to the passenger's side, to do that you would need to also move the A/C condensor over equally, shorten the lower hose, lengthen the upper hose and supply bracketry. I can certainly do it. I'll have to see what I have to work with depending on the body.

Every chasis will be different. Time will only tell once I get a few test vehicles in to do some research and planning.

Well, that should work for the G and J body. This is the system I would think would work best and only requires a little modification to do. As an alternative to moving the rad and condenser, cutting the room in the header wouldn't be so bad either.

No matter what I can't wait to see what you come up with.

[tsiconquest88]

in those pics if you notice, the rad is where it was stock. So that kit worked well for that body. I would be interested in a kit for a spirit RT. Without a/c. whatever came of this anyway?

[The Pope]

it isn't hard to buy the compressed fin AC core from a mini van and slide it in place of the stock AC core. Much more narrow with about the same end on it for plumping.

[22shelby]

good luck w/ the project, i voted yes, even tho i already did mine, but had there been a kit when i was ready ida bought it...

[minigts]

I think the pipes would clear the condenser. I don't remember where mine sat, but I think there is at least a few inches between the condenser and the edge of the sheetmetal. I would imagine there has to be some for air flow to the stock IC. But I don't have A/C either and already have a FMIC, but mine routes the same exact way.

I think I MAY have cut a little sheet metal on the driver's side, but not much. For me it was more about tolerances than installation. And my radiator is sitting where the condenser goes and those are 3" pipes going through, which is really about 3.25" with the thickness of the coupler.


http://minigts.com/car/charger/engine/intercooler/IMG_0468.JPG


http://minigts.com/car/charger/engine/intercooler/IMG_0469.JPG


http://minigts.com/car/charger/engine/intercooler/IMG_0472.JPG


http://minigts.com/car/charger/engine/intercooler/IMG_0473.JPG

[1966 dart wagon]

Well, here's a FMIC kit someone on here made for their Daytona, shelbymopar89. I think this would be the best FMIC kit routing.

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbd.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbe.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbf.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbg.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbh.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbi.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbj.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbk.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbl.jpg

http://www.shelbymopar.com/gallerybuilder/galleries/Almost%20done/bbm.jpg

First off that looks beautiful, exaclty how i want my car to look when done, well maybe a lil bigger intercooler, but oh well. If it would bolt up like that and look that good (if i have to undercoat the pipes no biggy) i would pay that to take all the bs of having to fab up pipes.

[Twisted Noodle]

I would be very interested.. '87 Shelby Lancer


.. aww nuts I didn't realize there was a second page..lol

[JohnnyIroc]

First off that looks beautiful, exaclty how i want my car to look when done, well maybe a lil bigger intercooler, but oh well. If it would bolt up like that and look that good (if i have to undercoat the pipes no biggy) i would pay that to take all the bs of having to fab up pipes.

+1 i want that exact kit
and i would love that IC its the sparco style 3 core from TU

[Badger]

very nice. My only issue is that some will probably want to run the stock airbox instead of the open element air filter. Main reason for me is because I wont get through smog without the airbox in place.........unfortunately.

[Rod Enis]

Jon, I love what you did to your engine bay. Can you give me a breakdown of:
1. Rad
2. IC
3. Fuse Box setup

thx,
Rod Enis

PS- I'd take a kit as well...Hell you can use my Lbody, if needed.


I think the pipes would clear the condenser. I don't remember where mine sat, but I think there is at least a few inches between the condenser and the edge of the sheetmetal. I would imagine there has to be some for air flow to the stock IC. But I don't have A/C either and already have a FMIC, but mine routes the same exact way.

I think I MAY have cut a little sheet metal on the driver's side, but not much. For me it was more about tolerances than installation. And my radiator is sitting where the condenser goes and those are 3" pipes going through, which is really about 3.25" with the thickness of the coupler.


http://minigts.com/car/charger/engine/intercooler/IMG_0468.JPG


http://minigts.com/car/charger/engine/intercooler/IMG_0469.JPG


http://minigts.com/car/charger/engine/intercooler/IMG_0472.JPG


http://minigts.com/car/charger/engine/intercooler/IMG_0473.JPG

[Dave]

whatever came of this anyway?

It's been difficult to find some cars in the area that havent really been touched. If I were to move forward I may be making kits for guys without A/C.

I think I may start looking at some L-bodies first. So for you guys with L-bodies and no A/C let me know.

Lately I've been busy working 2 jobs, but I've finally been able to cut down to just one, so I have tons of time now.

-Bryan

PS: Some beautiful work here guys.