turbomopar87
05-08-2006, 06:27 PM
just when i think the car is running great again...BAM! big problem.
took my car over to my buddy's to take him for a ride. After making some good 23psi runs around town, we stoped at his nieghbors, our other friend, and i did the normal cool down, sat there for a while and talked cars, then i got in and started it up, everythings fine. He says, "Burnout on the way out" (i had been bragging i got 236hp & 272lb/ft at the dyno saturday), so i figured i had to show it off. Dropped out the clutch in first with RPMs around 3k and stomped it, but the kid in the car was like "wait, hold on", so i threw back in the clutch quick, maybe a 3 second burnout is all that happend.
(Go to the last 2 paragraphs if you dont wanna read details)
Well the car stalled right out after putting hte clutch in. kinda weird, but whatever. Went to dtart. Nothing. Just cranking over like it wasn't getting feul or spark or something. Waited a minute, tried again...BAD noise. Now i turn the key and the motor doesnt even turn over! I can here the starter hit the fly, and it wont turn it. WTF?!?! I get under the hood, and happen to have the key on. Smell some feul and it sounds like something is leaking. Chech the injectors, they are all in all the way. I cant figure it out. We push it about 20 feet to the hill that goes to my buddy house. Decide to try and pop-start it on the hill. Get rolling, up to about 25 and let it out in 4th. DEAD STOP, then a slight roll, and STOP. WTF again?!?!? Try it again, this time its in 5th geart SAME THING...stopped dead in the tracks. So i put it on the side of the road in front of his house. Call up my local garage, they say i gotta get that motor to turn to know what it could be. So i try turning with a wrench from the crankshaft sprocket. Wont budge. Pull out the plugs, and WAH LAH!! FUEL COMES FLOWING OUT OF CLYINDER #3!!!!!! What the hell?!?! So i pull out plug from Cly 2...CERAMIC MISSING ABOUT 1/4" down the electrode!!! (but the metal prongs are not bent of anything) This is F****d up i am thinking. I try turning the motot over again my hand...NOTHING even with the plugs out! Now i KNOW i am F****D!!! I call Cindy@ FWD, since she built the shortblock. She says i gotta start taking things apart to really know whats wrong.
So guys, tell me, what do you think? Cly. #3 FLOODED WITH FUEL, Cly #2 has a real messed up plug, and the motor WONT BUDGE.
can it just be seized up?
did i break a piston or snap a rod?
Now, the car ran just fine, went to do a burnout, and the car stalls after the tires break free for a couple seconds. Then it cranks over just fine. Then the key is left on, and somehow fuel is just flowing into the clyinder. Now, i try and turn it over, and BAM, the crap-load of fuel wont let the piston up and "hydrolocks" the block. BUT. why cant i turn the motor over by hand when the plugs are out? AND WHY did it stall out in the first place?
So is it Blown or just seized and can be freed up?
If its blown, I HAVE HAD IT WITH THIS CAR, and theres gonna be a LOOOOONG list of GOOOOOD upgrade parts for sale!!
BTW, its an 87 shelby Z 2.2 TII.
Is it bad for me to leave a cylinder full of fuel for the night before i get it towed home?
took my car over to my buddy's to take him for a ride. After making some good 23psi runs around town, we stoped at his nieghbors, our other friend, and i did the normal cool down, sat there for a while and talked cars, then i got in and started it up, everythings fine. He says, "Burnout on the way out" (i had been bragging i got 236hp & 272lb/ft at the dyno saturday), so i figured i had to show it off. Dropped out the clutch in first with RPMs around 3k and stomped it, but the kid in the car was like "wait, hold on", so i threw back in the clutch quick, maybe a 3 second burnout is all that happend.
(Go to the last 2 paragraphs if you dont wanna read details)
Well the car stalled right out after putting hte clutch in. kinda weird, but whatever. Went to dtart. Nothing. Just cranking over like it wasn't getting feul or spark or something. Waited a minute, tried again...BAD noise. Now i turn the key and the motor doesnt even turn over! I can here the starter hit the fly, and it wont turn it. WTF?!?! I get under the hood, and happen to have the key on. Smell some feul and it sounds like something is leaking. Chech the injectors, they are all in all the way. I cant figure it out. We push it about 20 feet to the hill that goes to my buddy house. Decide to try and pop-start it on the hill. Get rolling, up to about 25 and let it out in 4th. DEAD STOP, then a slight roll, and STOP. WTF again?!?!? Try it again, this time its in 5th geart SAME THING...stopped dead in the tracks. So i put it on the side of the road in front of his house. Call up my local garage, they say i gotta get that motor to turn to know what it could be. So i try turning with a wrench from the crankshaft sprocket. Wont budge. Pull out the plugs, and WAH LAH!! FUEL COMES FLOWING OUT OF CLYINDER #3!!!!!! What the hell?!?! So i pull out plug from Cly 2...CERAMIC MISSING ABOUT 1/4" down the electrode!!! (but the metal prongs are not bent of anything) This is F****d up i am thinking. I try turning the motot over again my hand...NOTHING even with the plugs out! Now i KNOW i am F****D!!! I call Cindy@ FWD, since she built the shortblock. She says i gotta start taking things apart to really know whats wrong.
So guys, tell me, what do you think? Cly. #3 FLOODED WITH FUEL, Cly #2 has a real messed up plug, and the motor WONT BUDGE.
can it just be seized up?
did i break a piston or snap a rod?
Now, the car ran just fine, went to do a burnout, and the car stalls after the tires break free for a couple seconds. Then it cranks over just fine. Then the key is left on, and somehow fuel is just flowing into the clyinder. Now, i try and turn it over, and BAM, the crap-load of fuel wont let the piston up and "hydrolocks" the block. BUT. why cant i turn the motor over by hand when the plugs are out? AND WHY did it stall out in the first place?
So is it Blown or just seized and can be freed up?
If its blown, I HAVE HAD IT WITH THIS CAR, and theres gonna be a LOOOOONG list of GOOOOOD upgrade parts for sale!!
BTW, its an 87 shelby Z 2.2 TII.
Is it bad for me to leave a cylinder full of fuel for the night before i get it towed home?