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89ShelbyGuy
08-19-2009, 04:09 PM
Hey guys....i am thinking of making a batch of 3 bar maps...basicly replacing the internals of a 1 bar or 2 bar. It will stay in the stock case...

I would charge 20 bucks each + shipping for each one...

I was going to make up a batch of 10....would anyone be interested in one before i waste my time with it?

lmk.

Tom

ShelGame
08-19-2009, 04:42 PM
I want a 2.5-bar MAP. Any interest in making one of those? I was going to do it myself, but if your planning to build some....

1984rampage
08-19-2009, 04:45 PM
Im interested... These work the same as other 3-bar maps I assume?

jamesmonty
08-19-2009, 07:55 PM
For that price I would take one. I think I have a few spare maps laying around.

turbovanmanČ
08-19-2009, 07:59 PM
4 bar for me, ;)

guyd_15
08-19-2009, 08:16 PM
Sure!

Guy

butchsuppe
08-19-2009, 10:58 PM
I don't need one but interested on how it's done.:nod:

bakes
08-20-2009, 12:43 AM
4 bar please

moparloper
08-20-2009, 06:59 AM
If I ship you 2 cores and $40 will you ship them back at no charge?

bris09
08-20-2009, 06:37 PM
I'm in.

SoCalCSX
08-20-2009, 06:44 PM
I want a 2.5-bar MAP. Any interest in making one of those? I was going to do it myself, but if your planning to build some....

Srt4's and turbo PT's have 2.5 bar map sensors stock. You could probobly get one for next to nothing on srtforums

ShelGame
08-20-2009, 09:57 PM
I thought they were actually 2.25 bar. And, it has an integrated temp sensor. The connector is like 6 pins. Plus, it's supposed to mount in the manifold. No hose barb. I can get a 2.5 bar MAP from Digikey for ~ $10 and wire it into the 1-bar housing that came out of my minivan. But, I'd happily pay $10 to have someone do it for me...

snoman
08-20-2009, 10:22 PM
I'll go for a 4 bar

89ShelbyGuy
08-21-2009, 07:14 AM
I am going to need some people to test some of these to make sure they work properly...

Shelgame: would you be interested in testing a 2.5bar when its done?

Also, i need one guy to test the 3 bar also.

The deal is, Send me a old map, and i'll put it in for no cost to you.

lmk.

I got everyones name on a list...I will keep this post updated on dates and stuff...so check back.

Thanks!

Tom

ShelGame
08-21-2009, 08:22 AM
I am going to need some people to test some of these to make sure they work properly...

Shelgame: would you be interested in testing a 2.5bar when its done?

Also, i need one guy to test the 3 bar also.

The deal is, Send me a old map, and i'll put it in for no cost to you.

lmk.

I got everyones name on a list...I will keep this post updated on dates and stuff...so check back.

Thanks!

Tom

Absolutey. I've built a couple of 2.5 bar cals. So, I can get it to run.

I have my 1-bar map that came in the minivan. I already opened it up for this purpose...

DodgeZ
08-21-2009, 08:53 AM
I don't need one but interested on how it's done.:nod:

http://boostedmopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14350

navyboy65
08-28-2009, 05:29 PM
Tell you what, To help support I'd be in for 1, 3 bar as a back up. As long as it's not too much over $20 with shipping to 95327.(paypal)
Seth
seth@gfire.us

89ShelbyGuy
08-28-2009, 07:36 PM
Awaiting the internals. I'll keep everyone posted...give me a 2 week lead time.

Simon, and Shelgame...you'll be hearing from me very soon.

Tom

jl93sundance
08-28-2009, 07:47 PM
I'm interested in a 3 bar, let me know if you are going to be making these.

89scottytona
08-29-2009, 01:33 PM
im in.. im sure i have a spare lying around. put me in for a 3-bar unit please...

jl93sundance
09-11-2009, 07:31 PM
:bump2:?

turboaddict
09-11-2009, 08:13 PM
i'd like one for my shelby to keep it stock looking!

89ShelbyGuy
09-14-2009, 01:14 PM
Little update.

Getting a shippment of maps (Thanks to Kev). In a little bind with some things i gotta take care of first. I also tried to do some development on some...i found some interesting things with soldering..., if your not careful enough, you will melt the solder down into the connector hole...causing it to go solid, in return you wont be able to plug your sensor in...lol....i'll keep you posted.

Tom

jl93sundance
09-14-2009, 08:45 PM
Little update.

Getting a shippment of maps (Thanks to Kev). In a little bind with some things i gotta take care of first. I also tried to do some development on some...i found some interesting things with soldering..., if your not careful enough, you will melt the solder down into the connector hole...causing it to go solid, in return you wont be able to plug your sensor in...lol....i'll keep you posted.

Tom


Put me on the list for one when you're ready to sell them.

DodgeZ
12-02-2009, 07:04 PM
bump, adding 3bar 3-bar

BoostedDrummer
12-02-2009, 08:41 PM
not to threadjack but whats the difference between 1 bar, 2, and 3 bar maps? I've heard about them but haven't a clue as to what they are lol

DodgeZ
12-02-2009, 08:47 PM
the map sensor is what tells the computer how much boost you are running. The computer uses it to know how much fuel and how much timing to give out. The stock 2bar map reads up to around 14psi So if you want to run more boost and want the computer to know about it you'll need to upgrade to a 3bar map. A 3 bar map reads up to around 28psi.

Vigo
12-05-2009, 11:32 PM
It becomes more self-explanatory if you know that 1 Bar= atmospheric pressure at sea level, ~14.5 psi.

So 'normal' pressure is ~14.5psi. We're experiencing this pressure right now. Your vacuum/boost gauge and your map sensor measure pressure differences from this standard pressure. so 0 on your vac/boost gauge is really ~14.5 psi absolute.

A non turbo map sensor is a 1 bar sensor.. it only reads from 0 (30" vacuum, outer space, etc) psi to ~14.5 psi (0" vacuum). a stock turbo-mopar map sensor is a 2 bar sensor, it can read from 0 psi to ~29 psi (from ~30" hg to ~14.5 psi of boost). a 3-bar sensor can read 14.5 past that, etc.

This becomes important for accurate fuel and timing control when you go past ~14.5 psi boost. A car with a stock 2-bar map sensor is injecting as much fuel as it's going to at ~14.5 psi of boost, because it cant measure any pressure above that to react to. You can build a car with a 2-bar map sensor to injector enough fuel at ~14.5 psi to actually have a safe a/f ratio at 20psi, for example, but if the a/f ratio is right at 20 psi that means its stupid rich at 14.5, so you would be better off with a 3-bar setup to accurately control your fuel delivery at those boost pressures.

stormy69
12-08-2009, 12:03 AM
3-bar for me plz

2fastsrt4
12-19-2009, 01:52 AM
this sensor are a gm type, or look like srt4 sensors?

2fastsrt4
12-19-2009, 01:55 AM
im lookin for a 3 bar map sensor for my srt4; any one have one of this?, mi mail is miguellujan@live.com.mx

turboaddict
01-15-2010, 07:27 AM
any news?

89ShelbyGuy
01-15-2010, 08:13 AM
Actually, yes. I am back in the game. Sorry, had some personal things that needed to come first. Currently i have a few cases ready for implant. These maps will be tested this month. I currently suspect that in the beginning of the next month i will have a batch ready to go out.

Tom

Dan15
01-15-2010, 01:47 PM
I'll take a 3-bar!! :D

Turbulence
01-15-2010, 02:57 PM
I'll take a 3 bar as well

Martin
89 Horizon

srt4eh
01-15-2010, 03:57 PM
wish I had known about this before I spent the money on the Mopar 3-bar map sensor for my srt-4....very nice

karlak
01-15-2010, 04:01 PM
:thumb:

omni_840
01-15-2010, 04:20 PM
I'm in for one :)

89ShelbyGuy
01-15-2010, 04:54 PM
Well, i took apart a different type of case this morning and found it not to have that gooey crap inside! Makes it a crap load better, plus it includes better plugs to solder on...its not hollow so the solder will not go down into the hole..and they also cemented the lugs in place so you can't get it so hot tha the pin will become loose...nice...

bakes
01-16-2010, 12:25 AM
Simon and i would like to know if you could whip up some 4 bar maps?

boost geek
01-16-2010, 12:53 AM
Add me to a 4 bar.

89ShelbyGuy
01-21-2010, 01:41 PM
Well, went to go order some 4 bar componets..well yea, the vendor is completely out of stock, 6 week lead time.....looks like i have to go with nemark...i will be ordering next friday. Simon, the first week of feb will be when you can get yours and test it out...but i still need those cases u were going to send.

I will be making a list of people that said they want one. I will post it later and please let me know if you see your name on the list and don't want one to let me know.

As for pricing..i am still working that out. Theres definatly going to be a core charge if you don't have one to send me. I am thinking of this pricing:

$25.00 - For 2.5,3, or 4 bar map sensor
$4.00 - For shipping (Could be less, don't know just yet.)
$5.00 - Core Charge

I will probably have deal prices like in if you send me 4 spare cores, theres no core charge and you can have the sensor for $10.00 Shipped.

So to total it up, heres what your looking at:
With a core it will be $29.00 Shipping to your house.
Without a core it will be $34.00 shipped to your house.

Does this sound reasonable?

I know you might be able to find GM 3 Bar maps for 30 bucks or a little more, but keep in mind, there will be no notching your connector. This will be a plug and play, and will be stock looking.

Thanks. I will keep you all updated.

Tom S

jl93sundance
01-21-2010, 02:00 PM
Well, went to go order some 4 bar componets..well yea, the vendor is completely out of stock, 6 week lead time.....looks like i have to go with nemark...i will be ordering next friday. Simon, the first week of feb will be when you can get yours and test it out...but i still need those cases u were going to send.

I will be making a list of people that said they want one. I will post it later and please let me know if you see your name on the list and don't want one to let me know.

As for pricing..i am still working that out. Theres definatly going to be a core charge if you don't have one to send me. I am thinking of this pricing:

$25.00 - For 2.5,3, or 4 bar map sensor
$4.00 - For shipping (Could be less, don't know just yet.)
$5.00 - Core Charge

I will probably have deal prices like in if you send me 4 spare cores, theres no core charge and you can have the sensor for $10.00 Shipped.

So to total it up, heres what your looking at:
With a core it will be $29.00 Shipping to your house.
Without a core it will be $34.00 shipped to your house.

Does this sound reasonable?


Tom S


Still sounds good...I'm guessing you need turbo map sensors for cores? I could get 4 together easily...

89ShelbyGuy
01-21-2010, 03:00 PM
That is correct Jim. N/A maps will NOT work as the connectors are the male side where the turbo maps are females. I bought about 10 of the 1 bar cases and i can't even use them...lol...I'd love to make a mold of them....If you have 4 of them and would like one of the first maps, let me know. I'll put you on my list.

Tom

DodgeZ
01-21-2010, 03:12 PM
Well, went to go order some 4 bar componets..well yea, the vendor is completely out of stock, 6 week lead time.....looks like i have to go with nemark...i will be ordering next friday. Simon, the first week of feb will be when you can get yours and test it out...but i still need those cases u were going to send.

I will be making a list of people that said they want one. I will post it later and please let me know if you see your name on the list and don't want one to let me know.

As for pricing..i am still working that out. Theres definatly going to be a core charge if you don't have one to send me. I am thinking of this pricing:

$25.00 - For 2.5,3, or 4 bar map sensor
$4.00 - For shipping (Could be less, don't know just yet.)
$5.00 - Core Charge

I will probably have deal prices like in if you send me 4 spare cores, theres no core charge and you can have the sensor for $10.00 Shipped.

So to total it up, heres what your looking at:
With a core it will be $29.00 Shipping to your house.
Without a core it will be $34.00 shipped to your house.

Does this sound reasonable?

I know you might be able to find GM 3 Bar maps for 30 bucks or a little more, but keep in mind, there will be no notching your connector. This will be a plug and play, and will be stock looking.

Thanks. I will keep you all updated.

Tom S

Really, I don't think it would be worth it for the 3bar. You can buy them new for that price. For the 2.5 and 4 bar stuff I'd say yeah. It would be a small market. Most people aren't going to know how to rescale for the odd sizes and the common cals are 3bar, unless you can talk the vendors in to 2.5/4 bar cals. Also not many folks are running boost high enough to need the 4 bar. Not sure what simon is going to do with a 4bar sensor. The DIY guys doing the aftermarket cals haven't even figured out how to get the 3bar stuff right for the R/Ts.

jl93sundance
01-21-2010, 03:37 PM
That is correct Jim. N/A maps will NOT work as the connectors are the male side where the turbo maps are females. I bought about 10 of the 1 bar cases and i can't even use them...lol...I'd love to make a mold of them....If you have 4 of them and would like one of the first maps, let me know. I'll put you on my list.

Tom

Yes I will just let me know:thumb:



Really, I don't think it would be worth it for the 3bar. You can buy them new for that price. For the 2.5 and 4 bar stuff I'd say yeah. It would be a small market.


It would be worth it imo...the cheapest gm I've found was for $42+shipping, so you are going to still going to be saving ~$15, plus you also have the options as you said for the 2.5 and 4.0 bar maps. And like he said you won't have to notch the connector.

DodgeZ
01-21-2010, 04:06 PM
It would be worth it imo...the cheapest gm I've found was for $42+shipping, so you are going to still going to be saving ~$15, plus you also have the options as you said for the 2.5 and 4.0 bar maps. And like he said you won't have to notch the connector.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40609&highlight=3bar

42.45 shipped to my house, with a pigtail. I just cut mine. It is like two slices with a razor. And it is brand new. It is like 8 bucks more if you don't have a core.

For 5 bucks for the core. It isn't worth it for me. 2 bucks to ship it 2 bucks in gas to drive to the post office 45minutes of my time and now I don't have a spare 2bar. Now if you had a bunch of 2 bars and you were planning to buy half a dozen 3 bars I'd say it would be worth it.

When we were looking at sensors being 80 bucks for the GM and this one being 20 bucks it made a lot of sense to do. When the spread is 8 bucks I don't think it is worth it. Just my opinion. You can also get 3bar sensors for SRT calibers from Mopar for 16 bucks. You'll need a pigtail and to do some rewiring but again these are new parts.

89ShelbyGuy, I am not trying to down play what you are doing.. I think it is a good thing anytime someone wants to help save some money.

89ShelbyGuy
01-21-2010, 04:14 PM
No, i understand dodgeZ....I am trying to figure that qeustion out myself...is it worth it to make them..? It seems theres alot of interest in them....I don't plan on making a business out of this, just a service to TM.com and fellow TDers.

And about the cutting the pigtails...i would rather not cut that up....wouldn't you think it would be better with just a plug and play? AND its 10-15 bucks cheaper? I know i would....but we will see...i plan on making a batch of 10....and dependin on how that goes will depend if i make more.

Tom

DodgeZ
01-21-2010, 04:32 PM
No, i understand dodgeZ....I am trying to figure that qeustion out myself...is it worth it to make them..? It seems theres alot of interest in them....I don't plan on making a business out of this, just a service to TM.com and fellow TDers.

And about the cutting the pigtails...i would rather not cut that up....wouldn't you think it would be better with just a plug and play? AND its 10-15 bucks cheaper? I know i would....but we will see...i plan on making a batch of 10....and dependin on how that goes will depend if i make more.

Tom

:thumb::thumb:

boost geek
01-21-2010, 11:27 PM
You make a 4 bar, and I'll buy one...

bakes
01-22-2010, 12:03 AM
Really, I don't think it would be worth it for the 3bar. You can buy them new for that price. For the 2.5 and 4 bar stuff I'd say yeah. It would be a small market. Most people aren't going to know how to rescale for the odd sizes and the common cals are 3bar, unless you can talk the vendors in to 2.5/4 bar cals. Also not many folks are running boost high enough to need the 4 bar. Not sure what simon is going to do with a 4bar sensor. The DIY guys doing the aftermarket cals haven't even figured out how to get the 3bar stuff right for the R/Ts.

Simon is already at 30psi+ and Dick and i are going to be there very soon !!!:evil:

DodgeZ
01-22-2010, 02:49 AM
Simon is already at 30psi+ and Dick and i are going to be there very soon !!!:evil:

Isn't he running it on a 2bar tune?

boost geek
01-22-2010, 02:53 AM
Who, Simon? He's 3 bar. We all are.

DodgeZ
01-22-2010, 02:55 AM
Who, Simon? He's 3 bar. We all are.
yeah, I am not talking about the sensor he is running, I am talking about the tune/cal. Isn't he running the one that shelgame made him?

boost geek
01-22-2010, 02:57 AM
I doubt it, he's running his van off an Ostrich.

DodgeZ
01-22-2010, 03:11 AM
I doubt it, he's running his van off an Ostrich.

hmmmmmm what does that have to do with anything? Ostrich is just a chip. it doesn't matter what is on it. Unless he bought an FWD cal then his is running a 2-bar cal.

boost geek
01-22-2010, 03:23 AM
I don't know, he should be chiming in any time now...

DodgeZ
01-22-2010, 04:57 PM
I don't know, he should be chiming in any time now...

No worries. I can't read it anyways.

bakes
01-23-2010, 12:45 AM
yeah, I am not talking about the sensor he is running, I am talking about the tune/cal. Isn't he running the one that shelgame made him?

No its a 3 bar that simon and a tiny bit from me cobbled up dcal /turbonator cal

turbovanmanČ
01-23-2010, 02:43 AM
Kevin has me on ignore, what a tool, loser, pin head, :amen:

If someone can spoon feed him the info, that way he can digest it as he's too stupid to know I am running a cal I made, 3 bar, +40's, to which dumbazz has chimed in many times about it. Bonehead. :eyebrows:

monkeyhead
01-31-2010, 03:51 PM
yes! yes!! yes!!! I want a 3 bar!!!!! where do i send the cores?!?

Badger
02-02-2010, 01:20 AM
interested in a 3bar.

JohnnyIroc
02-02-2010, 02:19 AM
ill take one pretty soon

89ShelbyGuy
02-02-2010, 02:50 PM
Alittle update. Ordered some internals...should have tommorow. Sending all three kinds..(2.5,3,4) to get tested in a car to make sure they will work before making anymore. I'll post some pics of the finished product...they will appear very stock...Thanks.

Tom

89ShelbyGuy
02-04-2010, 08:06 AM
HOLY HELL.....These componets are so fricken tiny!!!! i thought they wold be a little bit bigger! a penny is much bigger...lol...pics to follow!

89ShelbyGuy
02-04-2010, 12:48 PM
Well, i finished up the first 3 bar map. Testing it i found it to be accurate to .1 v. I think this will work just fine. I wll be sending every bar out to be tested fully in a car.

bris09
02-04-2010, 04:05 PM
Good, glad to hear that as I've decided to go straight to a 3bar cal and skip the 2bar and bleed.

Reeves
02-04-2010, 06:16 PM
Good, glad to hear that as I've decided to go straight to a 3bar cal and skip the 2bar and bleed.

Ah com'mon! You have to pop a few pistons to get the hang of all the internals! We all had too!

bris09
02-04-2010, 09:07 PM
Ah com'mon! You have to pop a few pistons to get the hang of all the internals! We all had too!

Can you say new engine? I've seen enough of the internals. I learn from my own and other's mistakes. :D

risen
02-04-2010, 09:19 PM
HOLY HELL.....These componets are so fricken tiny!!!! i thought they wold be a little bit bigger! a penny is much bigger...lol...pics to follow!

Lmao, I have a few of the 4 bar freescale sensors that I'm using for another project. If you think those are small, try some qsop packages.

You can always try hot-plate soldering.

monkeyhead
02-20-2010, 02:05 AM
just looking for an update. wondering how the 3 bar is working out or if it is being tested yet.

89ShelbyGuy
02-22-2010, 08:15 AM
Ya, sorry for the lack of updates...my job has been keeping me very busy....anyhow...all the maps are made...i just gotta pot the 4 and 2.5 bar maps. and send them out to be tested.....on my bench test, they seem to be working great...i will know more sortly.

Tom

monkeyhead
02-22-2010, 07:26 PM
awesome!! no worries about beeing busy. It's totally understandable.

Badger
02-22-2010, 07:45 PM
when can we begin to purchase the 3 bars?

zin
02-22-2010, 08:40 PM
subscribed...

Mike

89ShelbyGuy
02-23-2010, 08:12 AM
I am going to say before spring time....(before race season..) I just don't want to collect any money before i know they are working 100%....

89ShelbyGuy
03-10-2010, 11:49 AM
Just an update to everyone. All the test maps are done...and now i will be awaiting test results....Check back soon as i will be taking orders...granted that they work properly. I will also be taking a look at this whole thread and will be writting down everyone that wanted one.

Thanks for everyone patients.

Tom S

moparzrule
03-13-2010, 08:28 PM
.
Thanks for everyone patients.


I didn't know you were a doctor :p


I'm betting atleast 50% of people won't even get that...

89ShelbyGuy
03-15-2010, 07:15 AM
I didn't know you were a doctor :p


I'm betting atleast 50% of people won't even get that...


I'll take that as a free bump...:p

moparzrule
03-15-2010, 03:35 PM
Yup...I was gonna post that I could test one, as I don't really need one, but looks like you have that covered.

How'd the testing go? Any update?

Reeves
03-15-2010, 03:52 PM
I can test a 3 bar and/or a 4 bar.

89ShelbyGuy
03-15-2010, 04:12 PM
Hey guys thanks for the offers..got it all covered...they are in transit now. I would think i should know by end of this week or start of next week...after making 3 of them up...i got better at every one..lol..

Tom

tsiconquest88
03-17-2010, 11:52 PM
would this work on a r/t ? My connector is different than my 89 mini and such.

89ShelbyGuy
03-18-2010, 01:12 PM
would this work on a r/t ? My connector is different than my 89 mini and such.

Did you modify it? Take a snap shot of what you got...i didn't know there were other connectors used???

Tom

tsiconquest88
03-18-2010, 05:03 PM
no its stock, might be the same, i was thinking it looked different when i seen it last, i just got the car 2 months ago. Never seen under the hood of the t3's before. i could be wrong. i will compare with my van later on.

monkeyhead
04-11-2010, 12:13 PM
how are these things working out??

89ShelbyGuy
04-13-2010, 10:29 AM
how are these things working out??

Its been a while...but the guys that are testing them havn't got back to me. for the past week n a half ive had mono....so i really havn't gotten on them to test them..

ShelGame
04-14-2010, 03:42 PM
I'm testing them this afternoon, I promise...

ShelGame
04-15-2010, 09:47 AM
OK, so no luck. I have a conflict between the FTDI cable I use to flash/datalog and the FTDI chip used in my digital occiliscope. So, I have to figure that out so that I can flash a 3-bar cal to the computer and try the sensor. I'll try again this evening...

89ShelbyGuy
04-15-2010, 10:06 AM
Ok...no problem. Thanks.

Tom

89ShelbyGuy
05-10-2010, 08:56 AM
Hello all, well finally we got the test results of the 3 bar map sensor. They are a go. They work fine on a 3bar calibration. Sorry for the wait. I only have results for the 3 bar maps sensor and thats the sensor everyone seemed to want anyway, so, i am going to stick with the same prices i posted a while ago, here they are again:

$25.00 - For 2.5,3, or 4 bar map sensor
$4.00 - For shipping
$5.00 - Core Charge

If you send me 4 spare cores, theres no core charge and you can have the sensor for $10.00 Shipped.

So to total it up, heres what your looking at:
With a core it will be $29.00 Shipping to your house.
Without a core it will be $34.00 shipped to your house. (Currently not offered)
Might be alittle extra if you live in Canada.

Right now i will only take orders with people that have cores to send in. I am completly out of cores. Heres a picture of which core i will prefer:
http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy265/gtpkid2004/2aefbe84.jpg
AND IT MUST HAVE FEMALE CONNECTORS! (2BAR MAPS.)

I will only take paypal and i am going to take the first 10 orders that come through for now.

So if your still interested in a 3bar, let me know in a PM or on here. I will want atleast 5 people before i order any electronic components. Once i do i will send you the address on where to send cores and payment.

Current list:
1. John M (3 bar)
2. Bakes (3 bar and 4 bar)
3. boost geek (4bar)
4. karlak (3bar)
5. jl93sundance (3 bar)
6. monkeyhead (3bar)
7. bris09 (3bar)
8.
9.
10.

JohnnyIroc
05-10-2010, 10:54 AM
Tom i will get as many cores as i can for you
and ill take one of these

89ShelbyGuy
05-11-2010, 04:26 PM
Just one eh? what happen to everyone?

turbovanmanČ
05-11-2010, 07:30 PM
no its stock, might be the same, i was thinking it looked different when i seen it last, i just got the car 2 months ago. Never seen under the hood of the t3's before. i could be wrong. i will compare with my van later on.

R/T has a different connector, so you can either put a new one on or cut the slots in.


Just one eh? what happen to everyone?

Typical turbo dodge guy's, parted like the Red Sea, :eyebrows:

I should be testing the 4 bar this week.

boost geek
05-11-2010, 10:00 PM
I'm still in for a 4 bar, already have a couple 3 bar's.

karlak
05-13-2010, 06:51 AM
Just one eh? what happen to everyone?

Dont have a core to give him.

bakes
05-13-2010, 10:32 PM
Im still in for a 4 bar :eyebrows:
and one 3 bar

89ShelbyGuy
05-14-2010, 07:12 AM
Too those guys wanting 4 bars.....simon is in the process of testing the one i sent him....as soon as i hear back from him i will offer them if they work good.

Tom

Reeves
05-14-2010, 08:29 AM
Too those guys wanting 4 bars.....simon is in the process of testing the one i sent him....as soon as i hear back from him i will offer them if they work good.

Tom

With Simon testing it, how will you know if it works good or not??? :p

jl93sundance
05-14-2010, 10:51 AM
pm sent

89ShelbyGuy
05-18-2010, 12:58 PM
As soon as i get the batch of cores i will order the electronic components...i will keep you guys informed.

Tom

Bumpity.

bris09
05-20-2010, 06:11 PM
I ended up ordering a 3bar from Chris but since I had already said I would take one, I still will. Maybe I'll upgrade the Lancer to 3bar.

Badger
05-20-2010, 07:40 PM
Tom,
for the 3 bar, is it universal for all TD cars or does it matter what year or body style? Whats your paypal addy and how much shipped to 92831 for one 3 bar?

89ShelbyGuy
05-25-2010, 07:15 AM
Bris09:

Ok i will add you to the list.

Badger:

This will usually work with all the TM cars. What kind of car is this going on?


Update:

Just got back from vacation, still awaiting some cores.

ShelGame
05-25-2010, 08:32 AM
Did you get the core I sent you? Will it work?

89ShelbyGuy
05-25-2010, 10:41 AM
Yea Rob, i got it. It will work just fine! Thanks! Btw, any interest in taking a look at that socketed board that won't work?

Badger
05-25-2010, 05:27 PM
I was gonna put it on my rampage w/ T2 engine and computer on it.

89ShelbyGuy
05-26-2010, 07:09 AM
Yea, that wil be fine. You just gotta make sure you have a 3bar cal.

monkeyhead
05-31-2010, 11:52 PM
i still want one. I have a core or two I can send.

89ShelbyGuy
06-01-2010, 07:13 AM
Alright guys, i havn't received any cores. So if you have some give me a PM and ill send you the address you need to send them..

rich tideswell
06-06-2010, 09:55 AM
i think i have a MAP sensor. i can toss it in with the altenators if i do.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/rtideswell/daytona%20parts/88inivanmapsensor.jpg

Badger
06-13-2010, 01:42 AM
are you taking orders for 3bars without sending in a core yet?

89ShelbyGuy
06-14-2010, 09:09 AM
Hey badger, not yet....i have alot of people wanting these..and saying they are sending in the cores, but i have yet to see some. I will let you know when i do.

Thanks.

Tom

BF/STOCKER SPIRIT
06-14-2010, 12:25 PM
Now you building 3 bars,lol, awesome shelby, looks like you will be busy

89ShelbyGuy
06-14-2010, 02:32 PM
Now you building 3 bars,lol, awesome shelby, looks like you will be busy

? What else was i building?

Yea i'd thought id be busy, but everyone vanished during the "Testing" period.

Tom

89ShelbyGuy
06-22-2010, 09:56 AM
Alright, this is last call, i am tired of waiting. If you want a 3bar map, have a core ready to send. Nobody has sent anything. So, i geuss this deal was no good. Oh well.

Tom

Rob(I'll get that 2.5 made very soon. i was waiting to order the components...but f-it..)

zin
06-22-2010, 03:46 PM
Alright, this is last call, i am tired of waiting. If you want a 3bar map, have a core ready to send. Nobody has sent anything. So, i geuss this deal was no good. Oh well.

Tom

Rob(I'll get that 2.5 made very soon. i was waiting to order the components...but f-it..)

I'd hate to see the effort go to waste... Could you post a picture of the type of core you need and I'll see what I have in the stash...

Mike

89ShelbyGuy
06-22-2010, 04:22 PM
I'd hate to see the effort go to waste... Could you post a picture of the type of core you need and I'll see what I have in the stash...

Mike


On page five is the pic. The Connectors inside the map sensor need to be female.

zin
06-22-2010, 04:50 PM
On page five is the pic. The Connectors inside the map sensor need to be female.

OK, sorry to be a bother, but being stuck in logic module world, I'm not familiar with that one... At least by that picture, is it the kind used on 87-up cars? What cars did they come on? I'm also wondering if one from a TBI car would work, since it's just being used as a housing?

Once I know what to look for, I'll go through the stash and possibly make a JY run to acquire a few for the project...

Mike

DodgeZ
06-22-2010, 06:53 PM
Alright, this is last call, i am tired of waiting. If you want a 3bar map, have a core ready to send. Nobody has sent anything. So, i geuss this deal was no good. Oh well.

Tom

Rob(I'll get that 2.5 made very soon. i was waiting to order the components...but f-it..)

Sad how cheap people are.

Badger
06-22-2010, 07:50 PM
I still want one.......sadly, I still don't have a core to send.

87DaytonaPac
06-22-2010, 11:35 PM
If I can find my spare, I'm in for one and then potentially a second once I get my spare to swap back in.

89ShelbyGuy
06-23-2010, 07:13 AM
Badger, i know you wanted one since the beginning...i will get you one..don't worry about it....

Badger
06-23-2010, 10:54 AM
hey.......thanks SG =)

87DaytonaPac
06-25-2010, 01:05 PM
If I can find my spare, I'm in for one and then potentially a second once I get my spare to swap back in.

Okay, I found my TII spare and another that I *think* is TBI although outwardly it looks the same. Will the TBI one work? If it does, consider that my donation for Badger if he wants it.

89ShelbyGuy
06-25-2010, 01:42 PM
A few people are still un sure on which maps they can send in. Heres a few more pics of the ones i need. They are the best to work with along with the most rigid....the cheap china ones crack very easily. If your unsure still, feel free to send a pic to me and i will tell you if its good or not.

Thanks.


http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy265/gtpkid2004/95a25b25.jpg

http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy265/gtpkid2004/db13791d.jpg

http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy265/gtpkid2004/22128736.jpg

89ShelbyGuy
06-28-2010, 08:26 AM
Ok, alittle status update. I have ordered some of the components this morning. I should have these maps done and ready to be sent out this weekend.

So 87DaytonaPac, before i send out any finished maps i will need those cores. I only have 2 cores here at the shop, so, as soon as i receive the other cores i will send them out. I also will need payment from you.

As for Badger, you are paid for. Thanks.

Thanks guys.

Tom

risen
06-28-2010, 09:52 AM
I just found that I have a couple spare 2 bar sensors this weekend that look like the one you have above. Do you want them? I don't have a need for a 3 bar, but figured I'd offer the cores. Pay shipping and they're yours.

87DaytonaPac
06-28-2010, 11:51 AM
Tom,

The 2 cores I have are packed. I will be sending them out tomorrow (Tuesday) and payment will follow shortly after.

--Paul

89ShelbyGuy
06-28-2010, 11:55 AM
Alright, sounds good Paul. Thanks!

Tom

87DaytonaPac
06-29-2010, 10:13 PM
Alright, sounds good Paul. Thanks!

Tom

Package is on it's way. Coming USPS Priority.

gerbot_3000
06-30-2010, 03:57 AM
i like the deal, let me see how much maps i have here, yes i will have to drive 3 hours from mexico to tx then send them, but i DO think its worth it.

89ShelbyGuy
07-02-2010, 10:11 AM
Hey guys, just an update: I got all the tiny --- soldering done, tuesday morning i will test and seal them up, and wensenday they should go out!

Tom

89ShelbyGuy
07-06-2010, 03:23 PM
Ok, something i noticed on the TBI maps, they will still work, but the notches will have to be removed....on the last two i made, i just chipped them away, so now the sensor doesn't have any notches to deal with....

Also, going to test the 3bars out on my shelby tonight. My bench testing went well....just to double check i will put them on my car.

Also, if anyone needs a 3bar, i have an extra one nobody has claimed yet....so if you have no core, its $34.00...let me know if you need one.

Tom

tsiconquest88
07-06-2010, 04:32 PM
are the stock ones 2 bar?

89ShelbyGuy
07-07-2010, 07:06 AM
are the stock ones 2 bar?

Yes you are correct.

89ShelbyGuy
07-09-2010, 11:57 AM
Ok, I snapped a shot of the finished product.

http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy265/gtpkid2004/407c1d48.jpg

If anyone still needs a 3-Bar, i still have one thats sitting here all finished. Its 34 Bucks shipped to your house (without a core) or 29.00 bucks with a core.

Snatch it up while you still can.

Thanks guys.

Tom S

89ShelbyGuy
07-12-2010, 08:33 PM
Ok...i have gotten 2 maps that were sent to me...i have no clue who they are from....anyone wanna come foward?

Tom

89ShelbyGuy
08-03-2010, 12:19 PM
Ok, time for some updates. I now have plenty of cores.

If anyone would like a plug and play 3bar map sensor for thier turbo mopar, let me know.

Thanks.

Tom

karlak
08-03-2010, 03:49 PM
$34.00 dollars for no core?

89ShelbyGuy
08-03-2010, 04:28 PM
$34.00 dollars for no core?

Yup. 34.00 shipped to your house.

Tom