Jet Hot Coat or ????

[chilort]

Thinking about having my exhaust side housing and swing valve coated. I've heard good stuff about jet hot coat. The objective is to help keep underhood temps and rust down.

Any experience or other suggestions?

[T-Bohn]

I had Chris at TU coat my stuff call him he can help you. I am happy with mine!

gene

[chilort]

I had Chris at TU coat my stuff call him he can help you. I am happy with mine!

gene

What all did you have coated and about how much did it cost.

I'm certainly looking for the price/performance ratio right now.

[BadAssPerformance]

The common silver ceramic coatings dont last with the heat... Turbonetics used to coat turbing housings but stipped due to the stuff not taking the heat. JetHot has some stuff thats good to 2000°F

[turbovanman²]

www.performancecoatings.com

They do all my stuff, :clap:

[chilort]

I was certainly looking at the 2000* stuff but also wondered about Jet Hot Extreme Sterling. It is only good to 1700* but is supposed to insulate better.

Performance Coatings has some good prices too.

[turbovanman²]

I was certainly looking at the 2000* stuff but also wondered about Jet Hot Extreme Sterling. It is only good to 1700* but is supposed to insulate better.

Performance Coatings has some good prices too.

Not only that, it works. My turbine housing has taken some serious temps and not even a mark. I had my bike header done, no signs of damage after a year of hard racing. :thumb:

[neongary]

Swain Tech does the high temp coatings too. Seems like it's the same stuff that TU offers.
http://www.swaintech.com/store.asp?pid=10296

[GLHNSLHT2]

I'm not sure about simons but the guy that does my stuff with the 2000 degree+ stuff does it inside and out. I'm not fond of TU's because from what I've seen it's only the outside.

[turbovanman²]

I'm not sure about simons but the guy that does my stuff with the 2000 degree+ stuff does it inside and out. I'm not fond of TU's because from what I've seen it's only the outside.

Inside and out, :thumb:

[1FastCSX289]

Swain Tech does the high temp coatings too. Seems like it's the same stuff that TU offers.
http://www.swaintech.com/store.asp?pid=10296

Swaintech rocks. Awesome people......awesome coatings. Their white lightning is not for show....its a rough, white ceramic coating. But, as far as keeping the heat where its supposed to be.....its the best.

[chilort]

Don't care what it looks like as long as it works. It could be rainbow and I'd be fine .... well, maybe not rainbow.

[Chris W]

I'm not sure about simons but the guy that does my stuff with the 2000 degree+ stuff does it inside and out. I'm not fond of TU's because from what I've seen it's only the outside.

We actually do coat swingvalves on the inside. I would like to clarify a few things though about why we do not coat the inside of turbine housings and exhaust manifolds.

TU's Thermal coating services do not involve paints or sprays that requires curing in an oven. The process in which our coating is applied is an advanced technology called "Flame Spray Technology". Yttra-Zirconium powder is melted then sprayed directly on to the product. The unique part about the application process is a flame is directed into the coating spray stream to keep it in it's liquid molten state. Once it contacts the product the coating is allowed to cool and actually becomes part of the product itself. By using this application method the thermal coating is much more durable and less likely to flake off damaging other critical components. It's so strong it even has a Rockwell Hardness rating. Because of the unique way these coatings are applied a 90 degree application angle is required for surface preparation and coating to achieve optimum adhesion.

This coating technology is used mostly in mission critical applications in the Aerospace industry. That includes jet engine components where temperatures reach extreme levels. You can read a little about the company that does the spraying for us and you might even recognize a few of our products on their site. http://www.accuwright.com/

We are their #1 customer for Automotive applications and the owner is like an Uncle to me :)


Here are the Thermal Coating Specs:

Process: Refractory Heat Shield.
Service: Resist temperatures to 2000 degrees "F".
Application: Aerospace Quality Thermal Barrier.
Material: Zirconium Oxide-92%, Yttrium Oxide-8%.
Bond Coat: NiCrAlY.
Texture: 450-600 Ra.
Thickness: .010- .020 inch thick, including bond coat.
Bond: 3000+ P.S.I. pull strength.
Hardness: Rc 30-40.
Porosity: 9%.
Substrate: Any, sample 300 series SS.

Chris-TU

[Chris W]

Swain Tech does the high temp coatings too. Seems like it's the same stuff that TU offers.
http://www.swaintech.com/store.asp?pid=10296

After reading their section on "White Lighning" (http://www.swaintech.com/store.asp?pid=10969) I would say it is the same or very similar.

We have offered this product since 2002. Is this new at Swaintech?? Anyone know how long they have offered it or the cost of the White Lightning coating?

Chris-TU

[neongary]

After reading their section on "White Lighning" (http://www.swaintech.com/store.asp?pid=10969) I would say it is the same or very similar.

We have offered this product since 2002. Is this new at Swaintech?? Anyone know how long they have offered it or the cost of the White Lightning coating?

Chris-TU
They do have a online price sheet. They list a "turbocharger housing" at $90-$120.
http://www.swaintech.com/store.asp?pid=10971

Going by the paragraph on their web site, I would guess to say that they have been offering the White Lightning product since the early 1980's.

"In the early 1970’s ceramic engineer Dan Swain developed the first successful ceramic thermal barrier coating. Dan took this technology and perfected it in both his own NASCAR modified and with leading NASCAR Winston Cup (Now Nextel Cup) teams. In 1981, Swain Tech Coatings was started to provide race teams and performance enthusiast with performance improving coatings."

[turbovanman²]

Don't care what it looks like as long as it works. It could be rainbow and I'd be fine .... well, maybe not rainbow.

Hahaha, :thumb:

[Chris W]

They do have a online price sheet. They list a "turbocharger housing" at $90-$120.
http://www.swaintech.com/store.asp?pid=10971

Going by the paragraph on their web site, I would guess to say that they have been offering the White Lightning product since the early 1980's.

"In the early 1970’s ceramic engineer Dan Swain developed the first successful ceramic thermal barrier coating. Dan took this technology and perfected it in both his own NASCAR modified and with leading NASCAR Winston Cup (Now Nextel Cup) teams. In 1981, Swain Tech Coatings was started to provide race teams and performance enthusiast with performance improving coatings."

Thanks! Looks like our pricing is fairly comparable. I'd be interested to see which material they are using though. Application thickness seems to be about the same.

Chris-TU

[1FastCSX289]

We have offered this product since 2002. Is this new at Swaintech?? Anyone know how long they have offered it or the cost of the White Lightning coating?

Chris-TU



Swaintech is the original coating company. They've been at this for a while.....they do a lot/most of their work on the industrial side and have contracted with NASA and lots of other precision jobs. I just talked to Dan Swain the other night......if youre interested in info or whatever, LMK and I can get you connected.