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Ebox
07-14-2009, 02:03 PM
looking for aftermarket or spare parts to upbeat my 3.0 v6. tell me what you got and how much?

TopDollar69
07-14-2009, 03:28 PM
K&N air filter for the stock airbox, $12.00 shipped.

Murphy
07-14-2009, 04:41 PM
I would just put a cone of the TB

you can swap to a 52mm TB. if you have a 4 or 5 speed you can use one form a 3.3. if you have a 3 speed you need one form an 87-88 3.0, or swap arms from your old TB

pm jdawg for plenum spacers

FWDPerformance has exhaust systems

spaceman
07-14-2009, 09:17 PM
i think i might have a ported plenum and other stuff as 3.0s is all i have ever had inthe shadows

Ebox
07-15-2009, 01:18 AM
keep em coming I would really like a underdrive pulley but fwdmotion will only order them in quans of 10.

turbovanmanČ
07-15-2009, 01:29 AM
I have cams.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11413&highlight=cams

Ebox
07-15-2009, 06:33 PM
well i mise well just sell my iroc. I am starting to think that moding it isnt worth it. un less someone would put together a kit to buy. I work for 7up and dont have the time to go to the salvage yards. I will pull the motor and 5spd out to do the work thats no biggie. the car just looks to good to sit in my garage and not drive.

Force Fed Mopar
07-15-2009, 07:10 PM
So just drive it. Put exhaust on it, set the timing to optimum specs (probably 12-15 degrees), put a 52 TB on it, and just have fun in it. Those will gain you a small bit of power and better throttle response.

Ebox
07-15-2009, 07:20 PM
yes but 200hp would be better how can I reach that?

Force Fed Mopar
07-15-2009, 07:28 PM
You can't w/o tearing into the engine or using nitrous. However, you can swap in new cams w/o pulling the engine or even the heads, it can be done in-car. So I would say cams, modified upper plenum (divider removed, TB inlet ported, gasket match outlet ports etc), 52mm TB, ported exhaust manifolds, full free-flow exhaust, cold air intake, 180* t-stat, and optimized timing should put you around 175-200hp.

Ebox
07-15-2009, 08:26 PM
well the engine is coming out and getting rebuilt at the local shop but he wants a grand for a stock rebuild kit, somewhere there has to be a kit or one that someone could help me figure something out would be great I dont want to go to radical. so what do you think i could get to running pump gas? I might just go get a core at the boneyard for the rebuild, what I wish is that someone had on built allready to sell me LOL. what year core would be best?

turbovanmanČ
07-15-2009, 09:08 PM
$1000 for a rebuilt engine is cheap, just make sure the rebuild isn't a cheap job.

Force Fed Mopar
07-15-2009, 09:24 PM
Is it a grand for the whole rebuild, or just for the kit (gaskets, bearings etc)? Just the kit, if it includes stock-type pistons, should be around 300-500 bucks. Machine work for the block, heads and crank should be around 400-600, and labor varies. I usually get at least 500 for disassembling and rebuilding an engine.

As long as it's coming out and apart and you're buying pistons anyway, I'd see about getting some for higher compression, as that will make a big difference in power. Stock compression on a Chrysler 3.0 is like 8.85 or something like that, pretty low for an NA engine. If you could find some for 9-9.5: comp, that would help quite a bit. Or you can use stock pistons and have the heads milled down to make it 9:1, but you may need adjustable cam gears to re-center the cams if you go that route.

FYI Stealths, 3kGT's, Monteros, and a few other Mitsu and Hyundai cars used the same basic engine (just different manifolds and EFI systems).

Murphy
07-15-2009, 11:33 PM
there are 10:1 compression pistons that are stock for another engine that you can use. They came with the diamante engines. Their cams help to raise up the powerband too, so the power comes on more linearly instead of a giant hump then a drop off.

Force Fed Mopar
07-15-2009, 11:38 PM
Yeah, just remember, when you go to 10:1 it becomes an interference engine :)

Ebox
07-16-2009, 01:06 AM
the $1000 was just for a kit. not the machine and labor. I love the 30+ mpg but hey if I loose a liltle mpg oh well, but i want it to be reliable and not smack the bottom end into the top! if someone wants to give me a price of one rebuilt better then stock throw it out here. what about the other cams out there, they wont smack the seats on the valves? I understand there isnt much play in the 3.0! I used to turn wrench at the local dodge dealership so gettin dirty isnt a issue. its time now!

Force Fed Mopar
07-16-2009, 01:14 AM
the $1000 was just for a kit. not the machine and labor.

Damn, what's included? If it doesn't have some forged slugs and a crank kit in there or something, that's waaay too much for just a simple kit.

Ebox
07-16-2009, 01:18 AM
he said its a master kit so who knows but him. he also said its out of 1 of the more name brand books.

Force Fed Mopar
07-16-2009, 01:45 AM
Hmm, well some of that stuff can get expensive (oil pumps for instance can be 200 bucks +/- for import engines, so can the pick-up tube actually), but I would definitely check up on it to make sure.

turbovanmanČ
07-16-2009, 02:07 AM
the $1000 was just for a kit. not the machine and labor. I love the 30+ mpg but hey if I loose a liltle mpg oh well, but i want it to be reliable and not smack the bottom end into the top! if someone wants to give me a price of one rebuilt better then stock throw it out here. what about the other cams out there, they wont smack the seats on the valves? I understand there isnt much play in the 3.0! I used to turn wrench at the local dodge dealership so gettin dirty isnt a issue. its time now!

Post 6, hello? :confused: ;)

Ebox
07-16-2009, 04:53 PM
what cams do you have for sale and what would the gain be?

Ebox
07-16-2009, 08:18 PM
hey forced what do you recomend for the bottom end? Or anyone.

Murphy
07-16-2009, 11:51 PM
bottom end - 10:1 pistons, leave everything else stock

Ebox
07-16-2009, 11:53 PM
leave everything on the bottom stock? link to these pistons.

Force Fed Mopar
07-17-2009, 12:09 AM
Yeah, bottom ends are quite stout in these engines. Essentially, IIRC the only difference in our bottom end and a turbo bottom end, is the turbo has a nitrided crank. The stock Chrysler rods, crank and block can hold 500hp easy.

Do a search on Google for 6G72 10:1 piston, should pull up something.

Ebox
07-17-2009, 12:20 AM
force didnt you say not to go 10:1 cause of clearance issues? if I use those and some cams and the belt breaks will they have a meeting?

Murphy
07-17-2009, 12:27 AM
the only thing with 10:1 is if you break the timing belt you will break every piston and bend every valve. cam makes no difference

Ebox
07-17-2009, 12:32 AM
forced said something about 9 or 9:1 what are those

Murphy
07-17-2009, 01:12 AM
stock is 8.9:1. It think the later ones are a TINY bit different, but not enough to make a significant difference. You could mill the heads for compression.

you have a set of 10:1 pistons readily available to you, why bother with anything else if you want performance? Just toss on a new timing belt and enjoy the power

Ebox
07-17-2009, 01:16 AM
where do i get those pistons? are these them?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/91-99-Mitsubishi-Diamante-3000GT-3-0L-Pistons-Rings_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3a2 Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a2127Q7c293Q3a3Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksi dZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem562de0dae7QQitemZ3701 36898279QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccess ories

Force Fed Mopar
07-17-2009, 01:29 AM
the only thing with 10:1 is if you break the timing belt you will break every piston and bend every valve. cam makes no difference

What he said :thumb: Power gain would be worth it though. And really, you'll have a new belt so you have like 60k miles before you need to worry about breaking it :nod:

Ebox
07-17-2009, 01:35 AM
thx guys where can i get some cause those say 8:1 on the ebay page is that wrong?

Force Fed Mopar
07-17-2009, 01:43 AM
where do i get those pistons? are these them?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/91-99-Mitsubishi-Diamante-3000GT-3-0L-Pistons-Rings_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3a2 Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a2127Q7c293Q3a3Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksi dZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem562de0dae7QQitemZ3701 36898279QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccess ories

Those say 8:1 compression, so no :)

Looks like what you'll want to get is '92-96 Diamante SOHC pistons. Apparently they came from the factory w/ 10:1 compression. Here is a site you can order them from, along w/ many aftermarket ones.

http://www.importperformanceparts.net/

Topline should be the cheapest, they make OEM replacement stuff. Looks like you can also order a forged set in whatever compression ratio you want from Ross and Wiseco too.

Ebox
07-17-2009, 05:28 PM
ok i have looked up both the pistons for my daytona and the diamante on that site and they have the same specs. I also looked up my 3.0 in the timing book at the shop and it stats thats if the belt breaks even with the stock setup you will most likely see damage so I say lets do it, now to just get a list of part #s and what cams and such mind you i want to stay on pump gas nothing to rad! and i will port the plen get the tb ya all say and stuff. I will put a pic up of it but ya all have seen the blue daytona's before im sure of course I dont see to many of them anymore.

Force Fed Mopar
07-17-2009, 06:17 PM
You'll have to run 93 oct w/ the 10:1 compression, but that's still pump gas.

Murphy
07-17-2009, 11:34 PM
if your gonna port the plenum use a 58 TB

JDAWG
07-17-2009, 11:39 PM
ok i have looked up both the pistons for my daytona and the diamante on that site and they have the same specs. I also looked up my 3.0 in the timing book at the shop and it stats thats if the belt breaks even with the stock setup you will most likely see damage so I say lets do it, now to just get a list of part #s and what cams and such mind you i want to stay on pump gas nothing to rad! and i will port the plen get the tb ya all say and stuff. I will put a pic up of it but ya all have seen the blue daytona's before im sure of course I dont see to many of them anymore.

are you retarded?

Ebox
07-18-2009, 01:22 PM
yes I am retarded I have to take my helmet off just to post! dude im not the 29 year old with gijoe as my sig lol. say what ya want but name calling makes you look 4. but you probably was one of the kids who got beat up in the school yard and has to resort name calling in forums to be a big man. so just say what you want as I came here looking for help not your pathetic attempt to join the conversation with your limited vocabulary.

Force Fed Mopar
07-18-2009, 02:17 PM
yes I am retarded I have to take my helmet off just to post! dude im not the 29 year old with gijoe as my sig lol. say what ya want but name calling makes you look 4. but you probably was one of the kids who got beat up in the school yard and has to resort name calling in forums to be a big man. so just say what you want as I came here looking for help not your pathetic attempt to join the conversation with your limited vocabulary.

Burn :p

Ebox
07-19-2009, 01:11 PM
The local junkyard has a buttload of 3.0 cores im just going to pick 1 up up and build it. extra components are allways good anyways. (they are full cores plen,distrib and that stuff) is there a certain number or something on the block i should look for or are they all the same?

Force Fed Mopar
07-19-2009, 06:08 PM
All the same AFAIK, except maybe the later models have different/better lifters androller cams maybe? Not sure, Ondonti would be the one to ask about that.