boost geek's 1 piece intake mod thread. (lotsa pics)

[boost geek]

I have some pics scattered around this forum, thought I'd put them all in one thread. (Actually, Bakes told me to ;) )
I started off cutting the top off a 1 piece intake, to see what I could do to it to modify it to make it fit a 655 head. I cut the roofs of the runners off and divider wall along with the t.b. elbow.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2676.jpg

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http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2689.jpg


Here you can see the runners with the roof removed and opened up compared to the stock height on the left. Lots of weld filler must be added behind the injector bosses or there will be huge holes.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2903.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2914.jpg

Ya, I know, ugly, but Iv'e never even welded steel before.
My co-worker is getting it figured out though...
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2898.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2895.jpg

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Stock
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2896.jpg


http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2910.jpg


http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2915.jpg

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http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2918.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2917.jpg




Here's a shot through the intake valve with the head attached.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2907.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2923.jpg


I'll post more pics as I make more progress...
Gasket surface will also be planed flat when done.

[Juggy]

lookin good!
those 1 pieces involve alot of work. but if your capable of doing it yourself, then all the power to you!

are you planning on shortening up the runners and boxing up the back 1/2 of the intake?? sort of like them crazy french guys did ;)

[Juggy]

I just got ahold of a 655 head too....i need to get my new ported lower manny remachined flat....going to have the bottom areas welded up 1st, that way when i switch to the oval port i wont have to do this shiiiiit all over again lol

[2.216VTurbo]

Isn't it gonna leak some boost with the top half open like that?


























:lol:

[boost geek]

lookin good!
those 1 pieces involve alot of work. but if your capable of doing it yourself, then all the power to you!

are you planning on shortening up the runners and boxing up the back 1/2 of the intake?? sort of like them crazy french guys did ;)

The stock lid is going on, with a 3.3 elbow. As for runners, what you see, is what I get. :)

I have a chopped up 2.4 16v Caravan intake, runners are larger diameter on my 1 piece than the 16 valve, 2" tall at the open end compared to 1 3/4". I just bought a set of big valves too.:D

[Juggy]

Isn't it gonna leak some boost with the top half open like that?


























:lol:



haha, well if u wanna get technical, that thing wont even let you create boost!!!!

it would be the ultimate intake for an n/a drag car tho...you wouldnt even have to worry about having a gas pedal LOL....just make sure you got a rev limiter :eyebrows:

[Mario]

Isn't it gonna leak some boost with the top half open like that?


























:lol:


Lol, had a few this evening? :D

[Juggy]

The stock lid is going on, with a 3.3 elbow. As for runners, what you see, is what I get. :)


id def think about going with some more volume in the plenum. feed them runners all the air they can get!! especially since your going with a 655 port now! i cant wait to use my new upper plenum to see how the car reacts. hoping to make more hp and torque throughout the entire powerband from the previous lightly modded 2 piece.

what good is a nice huge flowing port, if your just going to end up starving it!

[boost geek]

What was once runners is now plenum volume, plus the piece I cut out the center is now gone, will now also be added volume. When I'm done I'll make a plate on the flange side, close eveything up but the t.b. hole, and see how much water I can pour into it. If it's not enough, I can go from there. Even the t.b. elbow will add volume.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2783.jpg

I'm kinda restricted in room with an L body, plus a Holset will be stuffed underneath...

[bakes]

Dont worry about adding to much volume in the plemum .you have to see it in person to see how much is added with all the runners cut out ,the pics dont do it justice.

Dick do you have and pics on the mockup motor for cleance to the Hoslet with i welded up now

[boost geek]

Not since i welded the lower bung, but I'm sure it will clear, otherwise I'll just grind the ex manifold somemore.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2883.jpg


http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2884.jpg

[Shadow]

:D


are you planning on shortening up the runners?

If they get any shorter I don't think you could actually call them "runners" anymore! :D

[bakes]

:D

If they get any shorter I don't think you could actually call them "runners" anymore! :D

I think log intake has shorter runners lol
Once it's done i think finding a cam and clutch to match will the next hardest thing

Need a pic of the 4.0l HO tb on the 3.3 eblow Dick!

[Juggy]

Need a pic of the 4.0l HO tb on the 3.3 eblow Dick!



crap dont remind me!! i wish i had thought about the 60mm jeep TB before I had the custom top piece taken care of


actually, if i may ask, will 2 of the holes from the jeeep TB line up with our 2 stock holes?? then just add 2 more studs

[Shadow]

I think log intake has shorter runners lol

Not likely, his runner is from the back of the inj bore on. Pretty sure the log has a good 3-4" more for sure!

[Juggy]

Not likely, his runner is from the back of the inj bore on. Pretty sure the log has a good 3-4" more for sure!

no log is real short lol...1/2 of what u mentioned!

i thought he was going to cap off the runners where they start to V to the ports..yes those are some real short runners then :eyebrows:

[bakes]

crap dont remind me!! i wish i had thought about the 60mm jeep TB before I had the custom top piece taken care of


actually, if i may ask, will 2 of the holes from the jeeep TB line up with our 2 stock holes?? then just add 2 more studs

We have not tired yet but all that we have read from the neon sites say just use the 2 bolt holes
The jeep sites say if you port the 6omm tb it comes out to some thing like 68mm.
Sorry about the info but we have not crossed that bridge yet?

[Shadow]

no log is real short lol...1/2 of what u mentioned!

i thought he was going to cap off the runners where they start to V to the ports..yes those are some real short runners then :eyebrows:

Ah, yes, if he caps them back to the join they'll be as long as mine. I was just going buy the pics and thinking hmmmm 2 inch runners, should be interesting! :thumb:

[bakes]

They are going to be 2 inch runners they are not going to capped just the cover is going to be reinstalled

[Juggy]

cool shiiit, wonder how its going to preform....short large runners should feed air super fast into that head

[Juggy]

We have not tired yet but all that we have read from the neon sites say just use the 2 bolt holes
The jeep sites say if you port the 6omm tb it comes out to some thing like 68mm.
Sorry about the info but we have n otcrossed that bridge yet?

ok cool, when u get there let us know!!! i would have scooped a 60mm already at the J yard....but at the U pull yard here, they ALWAYS take the complete jeep drivetrain out and leave just the rolling chassis too pick @ :(

i could call the other side of the yard n get one, but im sure it will easily be double in price.....guess ill just stick with the 58mm for now

[omni_840]

very cool! Looking forward to more pics :)

[boost geek]

Maybe they made the t.b. in 2 different sizes. Mine is 60 on the front, and tapers to 55 in the rear. The body itself is only 66mm.
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[thefitisgay]

here http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=1904761 figure it out on paper... lol

thats over my head

[boost geek]

Over my head too, rotary stuff...:confused:

[bakes]

thats for N/a motors, turbo engines are a whole new animal.

[thefitisgay]

hmmm i thought i was for turbo motors i seached intake runner length turbo

[bakes]

hmmm i thought i was for turbo motors i seached intake runner length turbo

Sorry i should have said rotory motor you have to think of them more of a 2 storke then a four storke port size and shape reflects the power band on them.

[Shadow]

They are going to be 2 inch runners they are not going to capped just the cover is going to be reinstalled

Nice, was hoping that would be the plan. Interested in how the off idle response will be.

[bakes]

Nice, was hoping that would be the plan. Interested in how the off idle response will be.

Ya it's going to make a nice test piece:eyebrows:

Its to bad i wont have a tube header but one thing at a time .

[Blue Iroc R/T]

Any concern about the Fuel Injector bores? From the pics, some of the weld appears to be right at the top of the bores. It doesn't take much weld to pull a bore out of round. May need to ream or hone the bore, or at least check it. Just a thought.
BTW, very nice work! Keep it going.

[thefitisgay]

Sorry i should have said rotory motor you have to think of them more of a 2 storke then a four storke port size and shape reflects the power band on them.

oh duh... i didnt think the motor type mattered but i should have known since its so in depth

i thought at least the uhhh (insert word for mathematical thing) would still work out

[bakes]

oh duh... i didnt think the motor type mattered but i should have known since its so in depth

i thought at least the uhhh (insert word for mathematical thing) would still work out

Dick and i appreciate any knowledge this is how we learn thanks
James Baker

[Shadow]

Ya it's going to make a nice test piece:eyebrows:

Its to bad i wont have a tube header but one thing at a time .

Relax, tube header isn't needed till 500whp! :eyebrows:

[boost geek]

Wasn't gonna post these, but Bakes twisted my arm.:eyebrows:

This is my rough cut, and I mean rough, for my t.b. elbow. Hopefully tack it all in place tomorrow, then cut that big knob off on the left side, and nicely fill everything in. The hole will be bigger by the time I'm done...


http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2930.jpg


http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2929.jpg

[bakes]

What a diff the 3.3l elbow makes!

[WLKivett]

cool, your even using the plenum short turn of the 3.3 elbow. I have a feeling this will be a monster up top.

[Juggy]

very nice!! that 3.3 elbow pic doesnt do justice, until you show what kid of meat you had to take out of the plenum to make it fit!

[Shadow]

Lookin good! :thumb: I should have used a :lol: on my last comment, just in case anyone thought I was serious. :evil:

[boost geek]

very nice!! that 3.3 elbow pic doesnt do justice, until you show what kid of meat you had to take out of the plenum to make it fit!

Like that?
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2939.jpg


My co-worker is getting pretty good on the welder, might be done tomorrow.:)

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2940.jpg

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This will get filled in tomorrow and smoothed out inside.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2941.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2945.jpg

[bakes]

:nod:STOKE-ville

[bakes]

Dick once it welded up were going to have to find a way to air check it for leaks .
Was thinking bolting it to a head with a cam out of it and install the injector rail and putting flange on the tb with a air hose fitting on it and using soapy water

[bakes]

I forgot dick i have a smoke machine we could put some clear plexi glass over the front and we can watch the flow currents.

[black86glhs]

That thing is awesome!!! I didn't realize how much the thing was restricted at the elbow side in stock form.:confused:
BTW...hurry up and get the elbow welded!!! I want to see how it turns out.:thumb:
HMMMM.....I have a one piece here without a t-body mount on it. It just might get a similar treatment.:)

[bakes]

How the clean up work going Dick?

[turbovanman²]

oh duh... i didnt think the motor type mattered but i should have known since its so in depth

i thought at least the uhhh (insert word for mathematical thing) would still work out

Rotaries are a totally different animal, they can spool 60mm turbos without missing a beat, :nod:

Looks good Dick, too bad you couldn't do a back to back test, :thumb:

[bakes]

Rotaries are a totally different animal, they can spool 60mm turbos without missing a beat, :nod:

Looks good Dick, too bad you couldn't do a back to back test, :thumb:

Wish we could do a back to back but the intake thats on it now has a 3.3 neck not gut out and is not ported to the next head which is fully ported and now getting 44m i and 37ex valves so it wouldn't be a fair comparison.

I wonder when you chime in since it was your comments on the 1 piece that got me and dick thinking !:eyebrows::evil:

When are you getting some s 60 cams going hint hint!!! i have to roller cores waiting.

[boost geek]

I can't get motivated today, took my boy out fishing to a birthday fishing derby. He won 2nd place, prize was a tackle box.:p

Gonna have to wait till next week for more pics.;)
Maybe I'll assemble my oil feed line for the Holset...

[turbovanman²]

Wish we could do a back to back but the intake thats on the now has a 3.3 neck not gut out and not ported to a the next head which is fully ported and now getting 44m i and 37ex valves so it wouldn't be a fair comparison.

I wonder when you chime in since it was your comments on the 1 piece that got me and dick thinking !:eyebrows::evil:

When are you getting some s 60 cams going hint hint!!! i have to roller cores waiting.

I can get the S60 cams going anytime, just not a batch price, ;)

Thanks, I didn't know it was me who started all this, :eyebrows:

[bakes]

I can't get motivated today, took my boy out fishing to a birthday fishing derby. He won 2nd place, prize was a tackle box.:p

Gonna have to wait till next week for more pics.;)
Maybe I'll assemble my oil feed line for the Holset...

Bad Dick Bad , don't make me get my belt out, back into the garage you get :evil:lol
I'll let you off this time only because you making up the oil line for the Holset:thumb:

[boost geek]

It's tricky getting the braided hose to go into the fitting.:confused:
Got 'er done though...

[bakes]

got any pics of the line?

[boost geek]

You want a pic of that too?
OK, I guess so...

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2954.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2955.jpg

[boost geek]

Not done yet, ran out of time, had to go out tonight.
Lid won't go on till everything is nice and smooth.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2959.jpg

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[boost geek]

Almost got my 60mm.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2963.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2962.jpg

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[cordes]

Do you plan on making any molds for the runners or anything to make sure they are the same shape and volume?

[boost geek]

Wasn't planning to, was just gonna use inside calipers to make sure they measure the same.

[Juggy]

Do you plan on making any molds for the runners or anything to make sure they are the same shape and volume?

them runners are nice n short, so its going to be that much easier to make things equal

edit : looks good....

[cordes]

Wasn't planning to, was just gonna use inside calipers to make sure they measure the same.


them runners are nice n short, so its going to be that much easier to make things equal

edit : looks good....

I thought that might be the plan. Those are really short runners and the way it's open will make it easy to do a good job of that by hand. The guys at the SDAC tech session last year have me a little paranoid about messing with intakes much though.

[boost geek]

After the lid is on, I wanna see how much water this thing will hold. As you can see, it's still a little rough inside, but really, how much could that affect flow, this thing will probably flow too much the way it is... :)

[cordes]

After the lid is on, I wanna see how much water this thing will hold. As you can see, it's still a little rough inside, but really, how much could that affect flow, this thing will probably flow too much the way it is... :)

I'm anxious to see your results. I think you should see some good gains any way you go with this.

[boost geek]

Still hunting around for big valve seats, I have the valves.

[black86glhs]

Almost got my 60mm.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2963.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2962.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2964.jpgIt isn't going to flow well with your hand in the way.:(
That elbow is huge!!! Air will not be a problem for this thing.:thumb:
Just looking at the throttle will make it rev to 3000 rpm.:nod:

[bakes]

I pulled out my fogg machine and my stash of plexi this moring , if i get out there sat do you want to see how the air currents in side flow or just wait till we do my intake next ?

[boost geek]

I pulled out my fogg machine and my stash of plexi this moring , if i get out there sat do you want to see how the air currents in side flow or just wait till we do my intake next ?

Guess I better not weld the lid on tomorrow then. You coming out this way? And what are you gonna do with your intake? ;)

[bakes]

if i dont phone your cell by say 10 i wont be coming hows that work?

[boost geek]

Sounds good, try the house phone incase the wife has the cell and is out.

[Juggy]

Still hunting around for big valve seats, I have the valves.

if you dare to try, you can get away with using the stock seats on the big valves.

[bakes]

44mm intakes and 37 exhaust are going in i thought +1 you could only do that

[Shadow]

That elbow is huge!!! Air will not be a problem for this thing.:thumb:

Ya, those 3.3 elbows are a nice upgrade, specially for the 58mm TB! :clap:

[black86glhs]

44mm intakes and 37 exhaust are going in i thought +1 you could only do thatHmmmm.....apparently they aren't just +1 valves.....:wow1:


Ya, those 3.3 elbows are a nice upgrade, specially for the 58mm TB! :clap:No doubt. Heck it would be a nice upgrade all around. You touch the gas pedal and the air is already knocking on the intake valve wanting to come in!!!!!:thumb:

[boost geek]

Hey, it's all sealed up. Was wondering how much water this thing would hold, so I plugged the holes and put a t.b. on. I measured 4 litres including the runners and elbow.

[bakes]

any one have a stock number to compare!

[black86glhs]

any one have a stock number to compare!I would but I'm in the U.S. What are liters???:confused:






If no one else comes up with it, I can test the 1 piece I have here, but it will be tomorrow afternoon sometime.:)

[bakes]

whats it in quarts then? will do the math lol

[black86glhs]

whats it in quarts then? will do the math lol:lol::lol::lol:

[turbovanman²]

whats it in quarts then? will do the math lol

1 litre is slightly larger than 1 quart, sheesh, :o

4 litres is pretty good, my intake is 5 litres, :thumb:

[black86glhs]

1 litre is slightly larger than 1 quart, sheesh, :o

4 litres is pretty good, my intake is 5 litres, :thumb:We know what a liter is, I went to college. A liter is someone who runs things, CEO. See, I'm no dummy.:confused:

[boost geek]

These are a couple pics of an intake I did 3 years ago, just the elbow, nothing else. A T1 blowthrough is actually easier to do than a T2, the T2 is ribbed under the elbow, but a T1 is solid, leaves more "meat" to grind and work with.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/2005_1007Image0105.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/2005_1007Image0131.jpg

Here's a shot of it looking through the frost plug. I knocked down the #4 runner wall a bit, as far as I could reach. If anyone makes one, you want a minimum of 3" between the t.b. flange and the intake, or your t.b. throttle cable holder will hit your cam cap.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/2005_1007Image0140-2.jpg

[Shadow]

I capped a 1 piece and a 2 piece 3-4 years ago and from memory they were very close to 2.2l, runners and all. Might have fallen right between a 2.2 and 2.5, maybe 2.3l? I should look it up, cuz I deff kept notes. What surprized me was that the 1 piece and 2 piece were vertually identicle in volume. That's when I really knew I had to build something! 4l is pretty good, I think I'm around 4.6l, would have to look that up as well.

[boost geek]

Well, post up picks of your intake.:thumb:

[turbovanman²]

Well, post up picks of your intake.:thumb:

They are, go here-

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16425&highlight=TIII

[boost geek]

It's 60 mm now...

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2965.jpg

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[bakes]

ok Dick we made it this far time to buy the valve seats OK:eyebrows:

[bakes]

need to put you new fuel rail on it

[boost geek]

I have this one, has the internal tube removed. :)

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_0342.jpg

[boost geek]

I like that big honkin' hole. :love:

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2969.jpg

[bakes]

can you put a beer can in there?

[boost geek]

Nope. A beer can is 66 mm.

[bakes]

a tennis ball maybe

[boost geek]

I'll just stick with air and alky.:D

[bakes]

So have you decide where you going to drill your alky ports?

[boost geek]

Same place as I'm running them on my other intake. The elbow has lots of room if you wanna add an additional one.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2374.jpg

[bakes]

What about the port under the neck or you using it for air temp sensor?

[boost geek]

That's my brake booster.

[bakes]

I bet the alky will get better distribution the closer it is to the TB too!

[boost geek]

I ran duals at first. Cyls 1&3 got it all, 2&4 got nothing.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_1035.jpg

[bakes]

Are you going to make a heat shield between the intake and turbo to reduce heat soak at all?

[boost geek]

Havent thought about it. I guess I can use the same shielding that I use to protect the starter solenoid.

[1966 dart wagon]

I want dyno results, that intake looks awesome, should flow a crap load :hail:

[boost geek]

I used a CT26 w.g. canister to clear the intake, it is SO close with the Holset on a stock exhaust manifold. I know a header is the way to go, but I just wanna get this thing up and running.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2980.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3002.jpg

[boost geek]

Slowly getting there.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3245.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3251.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3252.jpg

[bakes]

Sweet gettting closer to swap time!

[turbovanman²]

So you'll be at the track on the 11th? :eyebrows: :partywoot:

[boost geek]

Don't count on it.:(

[OmniLuvr]

is that a wh1c holset? i didnt want to run that one because of the huge 12cm split turbine housing (and not use it with the proper header) and i didnt like the 2.5" exhaust outlet, but if it is, i hope it works good for you, cant wait to see more progress! you running a 2.2L or 2.5L?

[Juggy]

I used a CT26 w.g. canister to clear the intake, it is SO close with the Holset on a stock exhaust manifold. I know a header is the way to go, but I just wanna get this thing up and running.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2980.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3002.jpg

hope that swingvalve arm never comes off!!!
youd have to pull the head to get that sucker back on :lol:

[boost geek]

That arm aint going anywhere.;) I think this turbo would be not too hard to pull with the head on, even in an L body. Hope I never try though...

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3258.jpg


The turbo is an HX35W. I didn't like the twin scroll either, so I removed the wall down to the w.g. puck. The exhaust will be ported out larger now that I have a 3" vband on it.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3213.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3220.jpg

I know of someone running this turbo on a 2.5 8 valve, haven't heard of a 2.2 8v yet...

Also ported the exhaust housing to allow for more w.g. travel. In stock form they have very little room for puck movement.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3235.jpg

[turbovanman²]

Don't count on it.:(

What now? :(

[OmniLuvr]

didnt think of porting the split housing, what size is the turbine housing? 9cm or 12cm?

[turbovanman²]

didnt think of porting the split housing, what size is the turbine housing? 9cm or 12cm?

Its 12cm, :wow1:

[bakes]

Got the head ready yet. hint hint Dont make me come over there and finish it off for you .

[turbovanman²]

Got the head ready yet. hint hint Dont make me come over there and finish it off for you .

Dick is slower than molasses, just like you, ;)

[boost geek]

Dick is slower than molasses, just like you, ;)

Next year I'm gonna open up a can on ya, and it won't be molasses. :D

[turbovanman²]

Next year I'm gonna open up a can on ya, and it won't be molasses. :D

Maybe not molasses, but it could be coolant, :wow1: :drum::lol:

Did you want a hose? I just ordered one. LMK asap.

[boost geek]

I'll pass on the hose, L body hoses are super short with rather tight bends. I guess you prefer cash for the rad cap? I'll swing by and grab it one day.

[turbovanman²]

I guess you prefer cash for the rad cap? I'll swing by and grab it one day.

That's cool, :thumb:

[boost geek]

Almost done the intake, runners are beyond huge!

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3606.jpg

[Dan15]

This is looking awesome man!!

Its getting close to the 1 year mark from when you first started! Any new updates??

[boost geek]

No more updates other than a 58mm t.b., couldn't figure out how to hook up the throttle linkage for the 60mm 4.0 t.b. I plan to run at the track this summer, waiting to finish the head with conicals and touch up the seats.

[boost geek]

I redid the d.p., was no where close to fitting, now fits perfectly.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3949.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3953.jpg

I got it running, but the idle is really rough. I wonder if I should just try running 1 shim with the PT's. The cam is pretty aggresive, about 10" vacuum on idle. I have to turn up the idle or it will stall. I didn't have a spare cts, so I plugged in an cas which probably doesn't help. Also the wideband isn't hooked up yet, which was providing the 02 signal.
Click the lower pic.


http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/th_RunningwithHolset.jpg (http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/?action=view&current=RunningwithHolset.mp4)

[bakes]

Nice sounds like War going to happen!!!!!:thumb::eyebrows::evil:

[boost geek]

lol Time for tuning.:)

[black86glhs]

PHUCKING sweet!!!!!! I like the DP. That thing is gonna be a whole lotta fun when the turbo spools!!!:thumb::hail:

[bakes]

Was that with the timing set?

[boost geek]

Ignition timing isn't set yet. Have to set the idle first, and get the wideband bung welded on.

[boost geek]

Hooked up the cts and the wideband, runs good now. Sounds like a real Mission car.:D

Click for a sound clip.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/th_100_4014.jpg (http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/?action=view&current=100_4014.mp4)

[bakes]

Hooked up the cts and the wideband, runs good now. Sounds like a real Mission car.:D

Click for a sound clip.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/th_100_4014.jpg (http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/?action=view&current=100_4014.mp4)

Sounds like a V8 not a 8v

[boost geek]

lol, that's what I thought.:p

[turbovanman²]

Awesome job, :thumb:

Alas, tired of waiting for my engine, at this point, seems like it won't be done, :(

[bakes]

have you got the exhaust connected yet?

[boost geek]

No, trying to source out some 3 1/2 inch pipe, Lordco doesnt carry it. I wanna make a dump. :eyebrows:

[thedon809]

That thing sounds badass.

[boost geek]

Thanks! Looking for one of these.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360205475995&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[bakes]

i still say go 3.5" to the current dump (front of LR wheel) and side exit it then just tee into the side of the dump pipe Trust me its the way to go !!!!!

You dont want to know how loud my Ls was inside with the dump you were looking at and how hot the floor got!!!

[boost geek]

I'm looking at a complete new exhaust then, never get it to the track then. I need a welder at home if I were to do that, I only have access to a welder at work. With that dump, just hook it up to the existing exhaust, and your good to go, at least till the season is over.

[bakes]

I have a MIG you can use remember
10 ft of 3.5 and a 90* all you need

[boost geek]

3 90's. Gotta find where to get them.



Cheap. ;)

[bakes]

lordco can get them

[boost geek]

I phoned this morning, they said no. Might depend who you talk to though.

I just retorqued the head this morning and put on a new v.c. gasket. Shift light is next.

[bakes]

3.5 bends
http://www.jegs.com/p/Hooker-Headers/Hooker-Headers-Dynomax-Exhaust-Tube-Mandrel-Bends/744799/10002/-1

[boost geek]

Took it for a burn with a bud, he watched the boost gauge, said it got as high as 11 psi. I have the w.g. canister attached to the w.g. solenoid, so the computer could be holding it back. I don't have the onions to pull it off right now, turbo sure sounds good, even when just cruising. I had the shift light set at 5 grand, was shifting way past, not sure how high. Now I need a permit so I can play with it some more. :thumb:

[bakes]

Dick did you hook the vac lines to the wastegate sol as a t2 not a t1 the cal i made you is set as a t2 you get 7- 10 psi all the time if you hook it as a t1 .
If i remember right i set the Max boost a 25psi and it was progessive with the vehicle speed.

[boost geek]

Wastegate solenoid is hooked up like this.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/Vacuumsolenoids.jpg

Is it important to use the map solenoid? I always hooked the 3 bar straight to manifold vac. Right now the solenoid is not used.

[bakes]

I think that pics is wrong the manifold and wastegate ports reversed
http://www.thedodgegarage.com/turbo/turbo289.jpg

[turbovanman²]

Is it important to use the map solenoid? I always hooked the 3 bar straight to manifold vac. Right now the solenoid is not used.

Yes, otherwise the computer can't compensate for altitude but I guess if you never leave the area, you should be fine.

[turbovanman²]

I phoned this morning, they said no. Might depend who you talk to though.

I just retorqued the head this morning and put on a new v.c. gasket. Shift light is next.

Mopac or any metal store, :thumb:

[boost geek]

Coming down tomorrow night? Bakes is crashing here, we could have a mini pre-SDAC B.C. chapter.;)

[turbovanman²]

Coming down tomorrow night? Bakes is crashing here, we could have a mini pre-SDAC B.C. chapter.;)

For what? :confused:

[boost geek]

Drop off a welder and play with the car. Hopefully get the Ostrich loaded up too.

[turbovanman²]

Maybe, have a busy day tomorrow and might go play Hockey, haven't played since I messed up my shoulder over 3 months ago, :(

[bakes]

Welder loaded in the truck see you after work . cant wait for the test drive!!!!!!

[boost geek]

Maybe I'll grab a permit on the way home.

[bakes]

Dick i think you should post some pics of the head so others can see why we started this project.

[Ubmbass]

Sounds like a V8 not a 8v

Man, I miss the way my 8v idled.. 16 valves just don't match the sound

[boost geek]

We swapped the w.g lines on the solenoid, James came down and went for a short test ride to get our first base line run. Boost climbs to 10 at 4000 rpm, then BAM, instant 20 psi. You can barely see the tach move, I was shifting at 7200 (rev limiter set at 7200). The car wants to keep pulling but we keep banging the rev limiter. Here's a vid of James holding the camera, if you wanna see the tach hit 7 grand, your gonna have to go frame by frame.
James is in awe, can't get over how hard and fast it pulls. The f.d. is 3.50 with 205/55zr16 tires, tall compared to the 205/50/15's that were on it.
This video seems tame compared to actually being in the car.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/th_HolsettestwithJames.jpg (http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/?action=view&current=HolsettestwithJames.mp4)

ckick on pic for vid:thumb:

[boost geek]

Dick i think you should post some pics of the head so others can see why we started this project.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3741.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3773.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3345.jpg

^ pic of when the head was halfway done before James got into the beer with and a die grinder

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_2789.jpg

[bakes]

Wow what a ride who says 8v cant rev above 5500rpm needs to take a ride in this car
im currently raising the rev limiter to 8000 . It just wants to keep pulling hard up there!!!

[turbovanman²]

Pretty cool, :thumb:

Wish you would use "youtube"

No one says they can't rev past 5500, just 2.5's don't like to rev, :p

[bakes]

Pretty cool, :thumb:

Wish you would use "youtube"

No one says they can't rev past 5500, just 2.5's don't like to rev, :p

And that was just rolling into the throttle not mashing it!
Granny shifting ... not double clutch like we should have....:D

[GLHNSLHT2]

Pretty cool, :thumb:

Wish you would use "youtube"

No one says they can't rev past 5500, just 2.5's don't like to rev, :p


a BIG +1 on the you tube!

Simon I seem to recall a certain someone saying it's pointless to rev the 2.2 beyond 6000 or so as well.

[Shadow]

a BIG +1 on the you tube!

Simon I seem to recall a certain someone saying it's pointless to rev the 2.2 beyond 6000 or so as well.

That's hilarious! I remember ppl looking at my dyno sheet and Q'ing how I was reving too 7000rpm when my peak HP was at 5900. Even with the stock turbo cam only making peak power at 5900rpm the Charger would only loose 10hp by 6500rpm. If my dyno plot would have gone too 7000 I would bet I wasn't down more than 20! :nod:

[turbovanman²]

a BIG +1 on the you tube!

Simon I seem to recall a certain someone saying it's pointless to rev the 2.2 beyond 6000 or so as well.

I only recall the 2.5.



That's hilarious! I remember ppl looking at my dyno sheet and Q'ing how I was reving too 7000rpm when my peak HP was at 5900. Even with the stock turbo cam only making peak power at 5900rpm the Charger would only loose 10hp by 6500rpm. If my dyno plot would have gone too 7000 I would bet I wasn't down more than 20! :nod:

Ok, so if your starting to lose power, why keep revving it out?

[4cefedomni]

cause by shifting gears you lose more power due to the gearing change than if you had stayed in it longer in the lower gear.

[turbovanman²]

cause by shifting gears you lose more power due to the gearing change than if you had stayed in it longer in the lower gear.

I know to a point, :p

[bakes]

Slicks in transit looks like Dick is the 1st to make it to Misson this year!!!

[boost geek]

:clap2::dancingbana::rockon::partywoot::cheer2:


Am I gonna need long wheel studs to run those?

[boost geek]

That's hilarious! I remember ppl looking at my dyno sheet and Q'ing how I was reving too 7000rpm when my peak HP was at 5900. Even with the stock turbo cam only making peak power at 5900rpm the Charger would only loose 10hp by 6500rpm. If my dyno plot would have gone too 7000 I would bet I wasn't down more than 20! :nod:

In second gear this car literally "explodes" at 4500, bangs off the rev limiter if you like it or not. Scared the crap out of me the first couple times.

[Shadow]

Ok, so if your starting to lose power, why keep revving it out?

The drop is so slow and slight that you don't feel it compared to pulling higher in the gear before you shift. Trust me, it's nothing like loosing 10-20hp on a stocker. (in which case you'd want to shift earlier)

[Shadow]

I second gear this car literally "explodes" at 4500, bangs off the rev limiter if you like it or not.

Nice, is that from lack of traction? Or are you saying it hooks up and pulls through the gear that fast?

[thedon809]

The drop is so slow and slight that you don't feel it compared to pulling higher in the gear before you shift. Trust me, it's nothing like loosing 10-20hp on a stocker. (in which case you'd want to shift earlier)10-20hp is a drop in the bucket when you make 450+ haha.

[boost geek]

Second gear does spin the tires, 205/55ZR16, with an OBX, and it happens very quickly. I'm gonna have to learn how to shift FAST in the first couple gears, last night was the first time I had it out running half decent. Still have to get used to the huge BANG when it hits the rev limiter. I wanna see how it handles the limiter at 8 grand. I think it will have no problem smacking it. Seems crazy for 18 psi, check the gauge in the vid, although I didn't bang in the vid.

[bakes]

Nice, is that from lack of traction? Or are you saying it hooks up and pulls through the gear that fast?

I would say 50/50 the car is still digging hard for traction and the speedo is not droping between shifts

[Shadow]

10-20hp is a drop in the bucket when you make 450+ haha.

Exactly, + you've got torque on your side as well. :nod:

[Shadow]

Second gear does spin the tires, 205/55ZR16, with an OBX, and it happens very quickly. I'm gonna have to learn how to shift FAST in the first couple gears, last night was the first time I had it out running half decent. Still have to get used to the huge BANG when it hits the rev limiter. I wanna see how it handles the limiter at 8 grand. I think it will have no problem smacking it. Seems crazy for 18 psi, check the gauge in the vid, although I didn't bang in the vid.


I would say 50/50 the car is still digging hard for traction and the speedo is not droping between shifts

Haha! This brings me back! I remember when I first put the Holset on and was running 18-20 PSI, just wait, it gets better, every extra lb you run! :thumb:

[boost geek]

Haha! This brings me back! I remember when I first put the Holset on and was running 18-20 PSI, just wait, it gets better, every extra lb you run! :thumb:

You trying to scare me? :p

[bakes]

Haha! This brings me back! I remember when I first put the Holset on and was running 18-20 PSI, just wait, it gets better, every extra lb you run! :thumb:

I guess it's time to try out a 4 bar map and start turning the wick up :)

[GLHS60]

VERY IMPRESSIVE!!!! Keep the vids and pictures coming.

Thanks
Randy

[boost geek]

Thanks! You have that GLHS on turbo2.com?

I tried that last vid on youtube to see the difference, uploads faster.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOasdXaWXuA

Here I tried a third gear pull. I'll have to get one of the car hitting the rev limiter.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5W-d3e0EAA

[turbovanman²]

Thank you for using Youtube, :thumb:

Very nice, I honestly wouldn't have thought it would spool that fast, great job, :nod:

Going out this Friday?

[Shadow]

You trying to scare me? :p

It's only scary the first or second time, you get use to it. :lol:


I guess it's time to try out a 4 bar map and start turning the wick up :)

Take your time, tune it well and learn the car where you have it, Then start turning up the wick! Too many try to go too far too fast and blow themselves up. Would be really nice to see this beast survive and lay down some #'s at the track! :thumb:

[bakes]

I still have to add more fuel into the Cal .5 to lean , then tweak the timing tables.

[boost geek]

When watching the third gear roll, remember this is a Canadian speedo.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_0894.jpg

Doubt I'll make it to the track friday, gotta close the exhaust up first.

[OmniLuvr]

so how does it drive when your out of boost? or have you not tuned part throttle yet?

[boost geek]

It drives surprisingly well out of boost, still very streetable. It gets a bad attitude at 4500, reminds me of my '87 GSXR750 that I had that would come alive at 6 grand. I hope to finish the exhaust on it this weekend, then can play with it at the track. If I don't run slicks, I can do a mph run or 2.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTOq0HrAFeQ

[turbovanman²]

Quit farting around and get the exhaust done, won't take you long, bring it here if you have too.

[boost geek]

Farting around? I got pretty far in the last couple weeks. Next step is to figure out the right radius for the exhaust elbows, gonna need 3. Maybe should just bump to 4" while I'm at it.;)

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/Mandrelbendlist.jpg

[Shadow]

Farting around? I got pretty far in the last couple weeks. Next step is to figure out the right radius for the exhaust elbows, gonna need 3. Maybe should just bump to 4" while I'm at it.;)

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/Mandrelbendlist.jpg

If you can squeeze a 4" "too the dump" anyways....go for it. 3 1/2" at least! ;) (I'm guesing your still internally gated)

[boost geek]

Yes, internally gated. Wonder how much weight a 4" will add.

[Shadow]

Yes, internally gated. Wonder how much weight a 4" will add.

Is your turbo 4" right off the turbine wheel like the HE351?

[boost geek]

No. Picture pretty much says it all. 3" v band, 3" mandrel elbows, 3 1/2" flexpipe. Everything gets bigger once it gets past the exhaust wheel.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3488.jpg

Redid the d.p. to fit.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_3949.jpg

[Shadow]

Duh, ya I remember that pic now. That sucker should flow pretty good. I wouldn't worry too much about making it bigger till your past the 450WHP marker. + your HX has a larger turbine wheel and should flow better on the hot side than my HE351.

[Force Fed Mopar]

10-20hp is a drop in the bucket when you make 450+ haha.

That's what I was thinking too lol. I always just run it it starts to quit pulling, then shift.

[Shadow]

That's what I was thinking too lol. I always just run it it starts to quit pulling, then shift.

You actually want to shift before that happens (once you know where that point is)

Although on slicks, and with this healthy of a powerband it's a little different. My rev limiter is 7400 rpm. I can't feel the drop off before I hit the rev limiter. So when I go down the track I have shifted at different rpms to see where the car goes faster and it's NOT the same rpm for every gear.

[turbovanman²]

Ok, so you got alot done, big deal, :p

So get her finished off, a couple more hours and your done, pitter patter, :lol:



You actually want to shift before that happens (once you know where that point is)


Yep. :D

[bakes]

You actually want to shift before that happens (once you know where that point is)

Although on slicks, and with this healthy of a powerband it's a little different. My rev limiter is 7400 rpm. I can't feel the drop off before I hit the rev limiter. So when I go down the track I have shifted at different rpms to see where the car goes faster and it's NOT the same rpm for every gear.

Shift high in the lower gears??

[boost geek]

Ok, so you got alot done, big deal, :p

So get her finished off, a couple more hours and your done, pitter patter, :lol:


I picked up 3 4" 90* elbows, a Dynomax Bullet 4" muffler (to pass tech with the open dump), and James' dropped off his welder. Gonna come down and weld it up for me? :eyebrows:

[bakes]

I was at Simon's shop and he said to bring it to his shop Saturday after work and we will install it.

[Shadow]

Shift high in the lower gears??

That's what I did at first. Then I started shifting sooner out of first 62-6500rpm and my E.T's got better. I figured I was spinning the slicks into second when I came out of first at 7000rpm+. Second is a very short gear so ya I stretch that out as far into third as I can, usually 7000rpm. Same for third but a little sooner 6800rpm.

As a test, I once ran the car down the track shifting at 6000rpm in every gear to see what happened ( seeing that my peak HP was 5900rpm) The car went slower. Then I shifted at 6500rpm in every gear, car went faster. Then I shifted at 7000rpm in every gear, car went slower than the 6500rpm run, but faster than the 6000rpm run. Then I modified where I shifted each gear.

Don't forget, with a big turbo, your shift point often has more to do with where your going to be in the next gear than where you make peak #'s.

[bakes]

That's what I did at first. Then I started shifting sooner out of first 62-6500rpm and my E.T's got better. I figured I was spinning the slicks into second when I came out of first at 7000rpm+. Second is a very short gear so ya I stretch that out as far into third as I can, usually 7000rpm. Same for third but a little sooner 6800rpm.

As a test, I once ran the car down the track shifting at 6000rpm in every gear to see what happened ( seeing that my peak HP was 5900rpm) The car went slower. Then I shifted at 6500rpm in every gear, car went faster. Then I shifted at 7000rpm in every gear, car went slower than the 6500rpm run, but faster than the 6000rpm run. Then I modified where I shifted each gear.

Don't forget, with a big turbo, your shift point often has more to do with where your going to be in the next gear than where you make peak #'s.

What rpm were you staging at / launching at?

[Shadow]

What rpm were you staging at / launching at?

Usually 58-6200rpm depending on track conditions. (I do everything old school, no stging rev limiters) I have gone right off the rev limiter as well, 7400rpm.

[boost geek]

I took the exhaust off the car, I supplied the muffler shop with 3" bends, ended up messing it up. If you want something done right, do it your self. I'm just dumping out the side for now, loud and proud. :thumb:

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_4069.jpg


http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_4068.jpg

[turbovanman²]

I picked up 3 4" 90* elbows, a Dynomax Bullet 4" muffler (to pass tech with the open dump), and James' dropped off his welder. Gonna come down and weld it up for me? :eyebrows:

Sorry, don't do the backyard thing anymore, I have hoists, :thumb:

Offer stands though, if you want to bring it down, we can lift it up, get it all nicely done, :D

[boost geek]

I'll see how it goes tomorrow. I plan to take it to the track next friday, already have an enclosed trailer gonna be there for me if I need a tow home.
Thanks for the offer though, but I don't have an air filter on this thing, no room till I get a 4x3" 90, only have a 45*.

[Force Fed Mopar]

You actually want to shift before that happens (once you know where that point is)

Although on slicks, and with this healthy of a powerband it's a little different. My rev limiter is 7400 rpm. I can't feel the drop off before I hit the rev limiter. So when I go down the track I have shifted at different rpms to see where the car goes faster and it's NOT the same rpm for every gear.

Yeah that's what I try to do, when you don't have a tach or it doesn't work right though you have to go by feel :) The tach in my Daytona is kinda flaky, not sure if it's reading right but I think it is at least consistent, so when I figure out where it falls off I try to shift a bit earlier.

Course it's had some other issues too. Like having the cam gear advanced a tooth :D

[boost geek]

Tomorrow I will clean up the welds, paint the welds, weld hangers and open up the hole on the side skirt. Took me and my welder bud 4 hours to piece this together. We had to put an offset by the muffler to clear the rod linkage housing.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_4070.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_4071.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_4072.jpg

[turbovanman²]

Looking good. Track was empty tonight, you would have got at LEAST 10 runs in if not more.

[boost geek]

Your van gonna make it there this year?

[turbovanman²]

Your van gonna make it there this year?

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=50857

[bakes]

Not a bad little 120v Mig i got there eh ?

[boost geek]

Not a bad little 120v Mig i got there eh ?

YA, was working pretty good, seemed best on #4 with wire speed at 3 and no gas. Makes me wanna have one for myself...:eyebrows:

[bakes]

So how many time did you have to swap it in and out for mock up?\
Going to need Vid when done please!!

[boost geek]

Havent had it bolted in yet, gonna do that now. Are you at work or at home?

[bakes]

:(Work!!!

[turbovanman²]

:(Work!!!

Obviously not working, :p

[boost geek]

Well, got called in to work this afternoon, so the exhaust didn't get hung. I did clean up the weld spatters and painted it with VHT caliper paint to keep the welds from rusting, because the pipe isn't stainless.
Will see the track friday, only 3 things will keep me from it:
1) death
2) rain
3) mechanical failure

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_4075.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_4074.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_4073.jpg

[bakes]

Get it hung well you , then just slip the gasket in !!!

[boost geek]

Ya, maybe later. Kinda lazy right now...

[black86glhs]

Well, got called in to work this afternoon, so the exhaust didn't get hung. I did clean up the weld spatters and painted it with VHT caliper paint to keep the welds from rusting, because the pipe isn't stainless.
Will see the track friday, only 3 things will keep me from it:
1) death
2) rain
3) mechanical failure

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_4075.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_4074.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_4073.jpg

What is up with the rags taped to the concrete pillar? Bumped your head lately?:confused2:

[turbovanman²]

What is up with the rags taped to the concrete pillar? Bumped your head lately?:confused2:

I would say yeah, especially if he's drinking, which he is, :p

[boost geek]

Those are so the front door of the wife's van doesn't hit the concrete when the kids swing it open.


And for my head.;)

I don't like the muffler clamp, coming off. My welding really sucks, gonna have to get my bud down again. Might tuck it up a bit higher too.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/100_4076.jpg

[bakes]

Your going to put the side skirt back on i hope?

[boost geek]

Yes, I'll have to trim the hole. Easier to do as the side skirt is being put back on.

[Juggy]

Slicks in transit looks like Dick is the 1st to make it to Misson this year!!!


lmk when they get there!



:clap2::dancingbana::rockon::partywoot::cheer2:


Am I gonna need long wheel studs to run those?

:nod:


if your gonna use the ones i sent bakes then YES. the L body will need spacers and extended studs to run them

[boost geek]

Where did you get your studs from?

[bakes]

Dick you get it done yet ? I want to see some Vids man.
I test fitted the slicks on Rattrap fit good no rubbing .

[boost geek]

No welding till tomorrow, tank is completely empty. Bought a roll of .023 wire, was .035 shielded stuff in there. The welder will probably work way better with gas and thin wire. :)

[turbovanman²]

You have 2 days left, get ON IT. :nod:

[boost geek]

Well, got called in to work this afternoon, so the exhaust didn't get hung. I did clean up the weld spatters and painted it with VHT caliper paint to keep the welds from rusting, because the pipe isn't stainless.
Will see the track friday, only 3 things will keep me from it:
1) death
2) rain
3) mechanical failure



Read this post again, my friend...;)

[turbovanman²]

Read this post again, my friend...;)

I'll believe it when I see it, :lol:

So on that note, get off the computer and get working, :fencing:

[bakes]

It's got to be done by now!!!!!! were my vids!!!!!!!! lol

[boost geek]

Yes, it's done. Getting washed after I post this. Getting hauled to the track and back in Dave's car hauler, because I am running without an air filter.

Now, as for the vids, that's up to you tomorrow.:D

[boost geek]

Pipe is kinda short due to the shift rod shifter housing, if I ever went cable, I would have hoardes of room. The short pipe is growing on me, like it more every time I see it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oLk-FT7Pgk

[bakes]

Yup sounds like War!!:thumb::love:
That race muffer did take the harsness out.:D

[Juggy]

sounds nice but why so lumpy???? def need to tune that idle unless you like it like that??

my car idles like butter with the taft S3 cam

cant wait to see some track times/videos.....and no i dont know where to get the extended studs but if u do let me know! my car already had them up front....but i need some for the rear when my skinnies arrive :)

[bakes]

sounds nice but why so lumpy???? def need to tune that idle unless you like it like that??

my car idles like butter with the taft S3 cam

cant wait to see some track times/videos.....and no i dont know where to get the extended studs but if u do let me know! my car already had them up front....but i need some for the rear when my skinnies arrive :)

Large short runners and 44mm valves and agresive cam (270 duration) make for lump idle . Its not just one part it's all of the combined that make up the idle choppy.

[Juggy]

Large short runners and 44mm valves and agresive cam (270 duration) make for lump idle . Its not just one part it's all of the combined that make up the idle choppy.

it can be smoothed out....im running a big valve G head 45x36.8 and it has lots of air to feed it :)

my car is a 2.5 with no balance shafts and ross pistons....compression feels lower then my 2.2 because of the deep dished pistons/valve reliefs

but even when it was 2.2 you could barely notice a difference from stock cam....just a hint of lope.

oh n the S3 cam i have is 280/275 duration 476/473 lift

[john1320]

sounds nice but why so lumpy???? def need to tune that idle unless you like it like that??


Sounds great just the way it is! :thumb:
It sounds like your setup to make max power in the higher rpm range, which will always make idle a bit lumpy. Don't change a thing, that Charger is pissed off and ready to pounce a Cobra :amen:

[turbovanman²]

it can be smoothed out....im running a big valve G head 45x36.8 and it has lots of air to feed it :)

my car is a 2.5 with no balance shafts and ross pistons....compression feels lower then my 2.2 because of the deep dished pistons/valve reliefs

but even when it was 2.2 you could barely notice a difference from stock cam....just a hint of lope.

oh n the S3 cam i have is 280/275 duration 476/473 lift

The 2.5 will smooth out a lumpy cam in a 2.2.

And as pointed out, his cam is large, makes an S3 look wimpy, :lol:

[4cefedomni]

Pure Awesomeness!!!!
I can't wait to watch that thing tonight.

[Juggy]

The 2.5 will smooth out a lumpy cam in a 2.2.

And as pointed out, his cam is large, makes an S3 look wimpy, :lol:

what cam?



Pure Awesomeness!!!!
I can't wait to watch that thing tonight.

+1
get vids

[turbovanman²]

what cam?


http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35773&highlight=cam*

[black86glhs]

I waiting patiently.:thumb:

[bakes]

I waiting patiently.:thumb:

Yes we all are !! but the 1st couple of runs are just going to be mostly shake down runs.

[boost geek]

I nearly cried when I first fired up the engine with the wideband hooked up, cts, and about 30 seconds of the computer sorting itself out. Never heard a turbo 4 sound like a v8 before.
Be pretty hard to mellow this cam, but the question would be "why?" No one in their right mind would buy this and want a smooth idle...:D

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/camcard.jpg

[boost geek]

Instead of typing everything over with one finger, go here...

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?p=687452#post687452

[boost geek]

I found out that I broke the weld on the vertical shaft where the linkage pivots on last night. I don't know if I should stay with the shift rods, or go cable, looks like the turbo will be in the way of the cables, depending where they come out of the firewall. This is an old pic, haven't taken the mount off yet.




http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/boostgeek/tranny10.jpg

[turbovanman²]

Damn dude, at least you have 3 weeks to fix it, :amen:

[boost geek]

I took it off, I'll zap it with the mig. Still wondering if I should go with a set of cables instead, 3rd has given me problems before. The wife said to keep an eye out for a set of slicks. :thumb:

[turbovanman²]

Sweet, :amen:

You've got a nice family, :hail: