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Koreth
05-12-2009, 02:39 AM
So I pulled the common block I got back from the machine shop and have had sitting in storage covered in oil ever since up onto the engine stand. It's time to get started on getting the motor put together. I figured a good place to start would be to get the outside of the block painted, so that's one less surface I have to keep coated with oil to prevent rusting. There's some minor surface rust and some of the old engine paint still clinging to the block in places. When the block was hot-tanked not all of it was removed. I have some wire wheels and a power drill. I was thinking of using the wire wheels to get off all the old paint and patches of surface rust, maybe washing the whole outside down with probably degreaser, then finishing it off with some soapy water and wiping it dry. Does that sound like the proper way to clean the block for the paint? Is there perhaps another way I should be doing it, something else I should be doing in addition to the things above?

With regard to masking, how much, and how? should I mask the deck or the pan/mains area? I figure they're covered in oil like the rest of the block, so paint shouldn't be able to stick to the deck, mains or cylinders. However, I would absolutely hate to have to try to scrape paint from any of them, for fear of damaging the surfaces. I was also thinking of masking off the bolt holes and mating surfaces where brackets and other things connect to the block. Should I mask the front or the back? Neither of these surfaces look like they were originally painted. Would they be safe to paint in addition to the sides, or should I leave them as bare iron?

Next, the paint itself and it's application. I was planning on using DupliColor Engine Enamel, since that's what all the local auto parts/supplies chains seem to carry as far engine paint goes. Speaking with the guy at the auto parts store, he said I shouldn't need a primer (even though they sell it). Though reading online, I keep seeing articles and the like stating that primer, while not being necessary will ensure a good paint job. So, think I should pick up a rattlecan of primer in addition to a rattlecan of paint? How many of the 12oz rattlecans should I need? Now, I'm guessing trying to lay the paint on thick in a single coat would invite runs and look poor, so I assume several thinner coats would be a better idea. How many coats do you think I'll need?

Finally, what color? Duplicolor has the typical colors for the typical brands, including (but not limited to) Chysler Orange, Chrysler Hemi Orange, Chrysler Corporate Blue, Chrysler Industrial Red, as well as just straight up normal black like our engines came. I could redo the factory black and silver color scheme. Black would probably be the easiest to do a good paint job on, and would certainly be the easiest color to keep clean looking. I could paint the engine A Ford, or Chevy color, but I know that'd probably raise the hackles of a few purists. When I look at the Daytona in the driveway, and look at the chipping and peeling paint, I can see that car was painted with a silver with red highlights (side pinstripes along the sides, badging, on the lips of the holes on the front grill/bumper, etc.) I think it'd look rather cool to carry on that silver and red scheme under the hood as well. Maybe combine the black and silver and red and silver color schemes in a red silver and black color scheme? I don't want to get things too complicated.

bakes
05-12-2009, 03:04 AM
You have to figure out if painting your engine is going to affect the value of the car (IE. rare , # car , or 100% mint stocker) if value is no concern paint it to you liking not others !
Try some air brushing Go wild try some thing that has not being tried to you knowledge.

moparzrule
05-12-2009, 06:54 AM
Black

4 l-bodies
05-12-2009, 10:15 PM
Ford semi gloss black. Closest thing to what came on there originally. Any other color is going to show dirt, oil, and grease more so than black. However it's your ride, so paint it whatever you like. This is how the motors I build look like in black.
Todd

86Shelby
05-12-2009, 10:24 PM
Paint it whatever color you like.


As far as masking it off I would mask off the deck, and the everything the oilpan covers. Don;t forget to mask off approximately where the front & rear seal housing will seal to the block.

Since it's been sitting for a while be sure to completely wash the block with soap & water then coat with oil. May as well do that after the painting incase a few rouge droplets of paint make it past your masking job.

bgbmxer
05-12-2009, 10:24 PM
stay away from water and soap use dereaser and carb cleaner. i used the wire wheels brushes and sand paper, rags. as for masking tape up everything you dont want sprayed i put old main covers on and spraypainted them then put the new covers on same with the oil pan. i taped off the deck with regular tape. i also used sthis paint called stove bright and i like its results

Darkwolf
05-13-2009, 12:42 AM
Black is too boring
http://users.marshall.edu/~kessler8/van/engine/100_0124.jpg
I went with red. Still looks like crap once its in the engine bay though :).

86turboz
05-13-2009, 02:22 AM
Black is too boring
http://users.marshall.edu/~kessler8/van/engine/100_0124.jpg
I went with red. Still looks like crap once its in the engine bay though :).

I feel like I just got punched in the face...lmao. That is a lot of red. I seriously think my blood pressure shot up like 10 points just looking at it...lol.


I am trying to figure out what to do my motor in.... Im thinking chrysler orange block...lava red valve cover(its a deep red with hint of black out of sunlight, but the black is more apparent when in the sun...kinda like a chamillion I guess). and I think I am going to go with powder coat chrome for the intake manifold..... my dad told me not to do real chrome because it retains heat.... I dont think chrome powder coat will do that.....

I would love to do something with blue.... but I just dont see blue in a red engine bay looking good.....but of course I cant even match my own clothes...lol

Skligmund
05-13-2009, 03:20 AM
I would paint it corporate blue if the engine bay allowed. That would be different, and I like different. :P

Do what color you think is best. Don't be afraid to mask things, it only helps.

ShelGame
05-13-2009, 07:29 AM
I've always been partial to the MP colors myself: orange block, black wrinkle finish valve cover...

86Shelby
05-13-2009, 09:45 AM
stay away from water and soap use dereaser and carb cleaner.

If he is not going to clean the entire block inside & out you are correct. :nod: Degreaser and some towels would be sufficient for just the outside.

Gearhead24-7
05-13-2009, 10:02 AM
Got red and blue, anybody done one in white?

rx2mazda
05-13-2009, 10:10 AM
POR 15 is the best thing you can paint the block with, just dont get that sh!t on your skin!

WickedShelby88
05-13-2009, 10:20 AM
Yeah that is what I'm going to use and multiple colors to choose from. Here is the link for the kit.

http://www.por15.com/ENGINE-PAINTING-KIT/productinfo/EPKA/

JohnnyIroc
05-13-2009, 10:31 AM
i was thinking of going with black
but seeing the hemi engine orange i think changed my mind
just do what you think would be cool
my vote is black or orange

Gearhead24-7
05-13-2009, 11:03 AM
I have some pics of one I did in '66 Street Hemi Orange, I can put them up later.

rampant150
05-13-2009, 01:36 PM
Got red and blue, anybody done one in white?

Looking at those pictures I now know what color Im painting my setup. What is the name of that blue?

BadAssPerformance
05-13-2009, 01:41 PM
-mask/plug all important holes
-wire brush, scrape and scrub all paint, dirt, etc off
-use brake cleaner and paper towels to remove ALL grease, oil, dust, etc
-re-mask off all suraces, holes, etc that you dont want painted
-use duplicolor engine temp primer in 2 or 3 light coats
-let harden for a couple days
-use duplicolor engine paint in 2 light then 1 medium/heavy coat, try not to get any runs!
-let sit for a couple days

JohnnyIroc
05-13-2009, 02:05 PM
-mask/plug all important holes
-wire brush, scrape and scrub all paint, dirt, etc off
-use brake cleaner and paper towels to remove ALL grease, oil, dust, etc
-re-mask off all suraces, holes, etc that you dont want painted
-use duplicolor engine temp primer in 2 or 3 light coats
-let harden for a couple days
-use duplicolor engine paint in 2 light then 1 medium/heavy coat, try not to get any runs!
-let sit for a couple days

what color did you do JT?

Gearhead24-7
05-13-2009, 02:58 PM
Looking at those pictures I now know what color Im painting my setup. What is the name of that blue?

It's a custom mix based on Viper GTS Blue pearl. I started with the basic Dodge color and tweaked some of the toners to brighten it up a little. PBE is the color code, that will get ya close.

Gearhead24-7
05-13-2009, 07:44 PM
The original pics were not that great but...


http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/T23.jpg ('http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/T23.jpg') http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/T22.jpg ('http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/T22.jpg') http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/T21.jpg ('http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/T21.jpg')

JohnnyIroc
05-13-2009, 08:05 PM
The original pics were not that great but...


http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/T23.jpg ('http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/T23.jpg') http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/T22.jpg ('http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/T22.jpg') http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/T21.jpg ('http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/T21.jpg')

that has my vote

Gearhead24-7
05-13-2009, 08:08 PM
Ok, last one.
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/CpMotor2.JPG ('http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/CpMotor2.JPG')

JohnnyIroc
05-13-2009, 08:11 PM
Ok, last one.
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/CpMotor2.JPG ('http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/CpMotor2.JPG')

wow that was my second thought of how to make it i was thinking either hemi orange or petty blue so black is not my choice anymore

BadAssPerformance
05-13-2009, 08:26 PM
what color did you do JT?

Once you go black...

BadAssPerformance
05-13-2009, 09:55 PM
Made a quick "How To" KC article with some spare pics I had lying around :D

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/vbarticles.php?do=article&articleid=140

JohnnyIroc
05-13-2009, 09:58 PM
Made a quick "How To" KC article with some spare pics I had lying around :D

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/vbarticles.php?do=article&articleid=140

nice write up :thumb:

BadAssPerformance
05-13-2009, 10:04 PM
Thanks! :thumb:

moparzrule
05-14-2009, 06:56 AM
Nice. Looks like whoever painted that block orange didn't mask the water pump hole LOL.