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Pat
03-06-2009, 10:58 PM
How necessary is it to have the rubber bushings in a stock bar? Can the bushings be removed, steel welded into the eyelets, then offset drill the holes for the sleeve to make the bar the correct length for a car that's been lowered? It would be a solid mount with a sleeve in it for the bolt vs the bushing with a sleeve in it.

Any thoughts?
Vigo
03-06-2009, 11:00 PM
I think it would make noise and clunk. For a racecar, i think it would work just fine!!
Pat
03-06-2009, 11:08 PM
It is a race car...and a low buck one at that.
BadAssPerformance
03-06-2009, 11:40 PM
That would work, it just has to have freedom to pivot when the suspension moves up and down :thumb:
GLHNSLHT2
03-06-2009, 11:55 PM
1st corner the wimpy stock bar will bend with no flex in the bushings. :)
Murphy
03-07-2009, 12:58 AM
why not jsut cut the bar and weld it back together at the proper length? that way you still have to good ends on it
jory
03-07-2009, 01:11 AM
Just box it in, it will be way stronger and trust us these do like to bend and break. I broke mine right in half before!
JDAWG
03-07-2009, 02:30 AM
i swore i seen somewhere that someone used tube and heim joints
Pat
03-07-2009, 07:49 AM
1st corner the wimpy stock bar will bend with no flex in the bushings. :)

It would definitely be boxed in.
puppet
03-07-2009, 10:55 AM
What would be sweet is a couple small coil overs welded into two bars mid span. Two bars so the car goes straight up and down. Never see one but my head says it'll work.


Phil
Johnny
03-07-2009, 01:26 PM
Here is a link on how to box in the bar...

http://www.polybushings.com/pages/1025install.html
Reaper1
03-08-2009, 10:19 PM
What would be sweet is a couple small coil overs welded into two bars mid span. Two bars so the car goes straight up and down. Never see one but my head says it'll work.


Phil

I think you may be envisioning a Watt's linkage, simialr to what's on the PT Crusier. It works VERY well...

As for the stock part, while I agree that it is weak an does flex a bit, and I have seen them buckled and such, I don't honestly know how that happens!

I ran my car VERY hard on the road course and I figured that if it was going to fail anywhere, that's where it would have, but it did just fine!

Now, I DID upgrade to the CS Racer tubular unit that does utilize Heim joints and such. It's a VERY nice peice, just make sure you get the bolts tight enough and they stay that way! The next parts in line that are weak at the locator braket and brace, both of which WILL be boxed on my car by the end of the summer....
"Top Fuel" Bender
03-09-2009, 08:19 AM
1-800-Troy :D
tube w/ heims
Pat
03-09-2009, 08:21 AM
1-800-Troy :D
tube w/ heims

Truth is, I have one on the car already, but I'm trying to create budget room for some things I'm adding to the car for the $2009 Challenge.
"Top Fuel" Bender
03-09-2009, 10:40 AM
Truth is, I have one on the car already, but I'm trying to create budget room for some things I'm adding to the car for the $2009 Challenge.

I'll give you $20 reciept for the seat if you need it :D
Pat
03-09-2009, 10:33 PM
I'll give you $20 reciept for the seat if you need it :D


You mean that seat I found in my neighbors trash? What are you talking about?


I'm kidding!!!!
puppet
03-09-2009, 11:42 PM
I think you may be envisioning a Watt's linkage, simialr to what's on the PT Crusier. It works VERY well...


A Watts link has a vertical pivot point. I'm seeing a fixed center point (welded bracket) ... the struts/bars are connected to this and compress/pivot.
rx2mazda
03-10-2009, 12:12 AM
I'm trying to create budget room for some things I'm adding to the car for the $2009 Challenge.

for what?:nx:
Polygon
03-10-2009, 03:20 AM
Here's a question, it's a race car, why are you even bothering with the wet noodle that is the stock bar? Why not get the CSracer bar? It's not that expensive.
Pat
03-10-2009, 06:15 AM
Here's a question, it's a race car, why are you even bothering with the wet noodle that is the stock bar? Why not get the CSracer bar? It's not that expensive.

Like I said, I have a CS bar, but I'm trying to create budget room for some things I'm adding to the car for the GRM $2009 Challenge.
Pat
03-10-2009, 06:16 AM
for what?:nx:


I don't know what you're talking about. :thumb:
guyd_15
03-10-2009, 06:21 AM
See you at Cecil on April 25th?

Guy
Pat
03-10-2009, 08:25 AM
See you at Cecil on April 25th?

Guy

Yup...with your injectors all boxed up to return!
TurboII
03-10-2009, 08:39 AM
what is a csracing bar? who makes them? what do they look like? street capable?


Joey
Reaper1
03-10-2009, 09:21 AM
CS Racer makes the bar in question. His name is Chris Still. He's on these forums, but is a pretty buisy person at times.

As far as streetability, *I* street drive it, however I've also accepted the fact that eventually I'm probably going to have to replace the hiem joints as they don't like all the dirt and crap from the street. I do plan to get some of the dust covers for them, just have to remember to do it! LOL
crazymadbastard
03-10-2009, 10:01 AM
CS Racer makes the bar in question. His name is Chris Still. He's on these forums, but is a pretty buisy person at times.

As far as streetability, *I* street drive it, however I've also accepted the fact that eventually I'm probably going to have to replace the hiem joints as they don't like all the dirt and crap from the street. I do plan to get some of the dust covers for them, just have to remember to do it! LOL


csracer.com is the site. I have one have to istall mine will def get some dust covers.
mcsvt
03-10-2009, 11:14 AM
I have one on my Sundance. Will be mainly race though.
badandy
03-10-2009, 11:26 AM
Dust Covers? Where to get?
mcsvt
03-10-2009, 11:37 AM
Quick Google gives me these as one option.
http://www.midwestcontrol.com/catdisplay_short.php?pg=230
crazymadbastard
03-10-2009, 11:49 AM
that is what they are called I went crazy looking for heim joint covers, boots etc!:

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=rode+end+seal&searchinresults=false&Ntk=KeywordSearch&DDS=1&N=700+115
TurboII
03-10-2009, 10:10 PM
CS Racer makes the bar in question. His name is Chris Still. He's on these forums, but is a pretty buisy person at times.

As far as streetability, *I* street drive it, however I've also accepted the fact that eventually I'm probably going to have to replace the hiem joints as they don't like all the dirt and crap from the street. I do plan to get some of the dust covers for them, just have to remember to do it! LOL


Okay now do they have a dust cover for them? whats the benefits of running and csracer pan hard bar?

also i saw on polys web site that they have rear sway bars too. but i wasnt sure if they made it for J-body lebarons.
Johnny
03-10-2009, 10:29 PM
but i wasnt sure if they made it for J-body lebarons.

Yes they are!

Johnny
Reaper1
03-10-2009, 10:38 PM
Okay now do they have a dust cover for them? whats the benefits of running and csracer pan hard bar?

also i saw on polys web site that they have rear sway bars too. but i wasnt sure if they made it for J-body lebarons.

You justt have to get the dust covers that wull fit the joints on the bar. They are a "universal" fit for the different size joints.

As Jonny said, yes his rear bars will fit J-body cars.
TurboII
03-11-2009, 04:05 PM
Yes they are!

Johnny

music to my ears :thumb: