Turbo Scamp

[GoFish]

New to the board...found you guys through the Rockauto email newsletter.

Got a '71 Scamp that I'm building into a daily driver with a little bit "more."

I'm installing a 360 bored .030 over, and am adding a FAST XFI fuel injection system with 65 lbs/hr injectors, and a Turbonetics T70 Q-trim turbo. Bottom end is built bulletproof, with a stud girdle, forged 8.5:1 Probe pistons, forged Eagle crank and H-beam rods, Edelbrock ported LA heads with 1.5 rockers.

I'd like to run a dual plane intake for better low RPM response, but none seem to be available that are drilled and ready to add fuel injection rails. In fact, the only intake I can find for a 360 that is fuel injection ready is the Eddy Super Victor EFI single plane with a power band from 3500 to 8000 rpm.

Any suggestions?

[Johnny]

Adding two turbos?

[guyd_15]

Make some bungs and weld them on the runners just upstream of the head. Not sure if you would need a dual plane manifold, perhaps someone else could say definitively.

Search for "ash 355 monster" that may be helpful.

Guy

[cordes]

I'm at a loss for ideas, but I can suggest the posting of pics. :thumb:

Welcome to the site!

[rosie]

New to the board...found you guys through the Rockauto email newsletter.

Got a '71 Scamp that I'm building into a daily driver with a little bit "more."

I'm installing a 360 bored .030 over, and am adding a FAST XFI fuel injection system with 65 lbs/hr injectors, and a Turbonetics T70 Q-trim turbo. Bottom end is built bulletproof, with a stud girdle, forged 8.5:1 Probe pistons, forged Eagle crank and H-beam rods, Edelbrock ported LA heads with 1.5 rockers.

I'd like to run a dual plane intake for better low RPM response, but none seem to be available that are drilled and ready to add fuel injection rails. In fact, the only intake I can find for a 360 that is fuel injection ready is the Eddy Super Victor EFI single plane with a power band from 3500 to 8000 rpm.

Any suggestions?

You shouldn't have any problems with having the intake of your choice machined to take the injectors and rails. I know that the GN guys, when they jump up to the big boy parts, they run the Stage II intake that came on the V6 roundy round cars which were infamously carberated. Other problem is the throttle body but that's modified via some welding and fabrication to take a TB.

Orrrrrrr there is a guy here with a turbo V8 dakota and you can find out what he's running for an intake and see if it has the runners short enough. And you want the power band from 35 to 80? Why not just get it from 1000 to 9000? ;) Don't know if you can get an intake/torque converter/cam combo to run that wide of a band but it would kick ---!

What about oil? Got it set up to not blow out all the oil seals at 8 grand? Big prob with the oil passages meant to give pressure at 6500 red line.

Pictures would be fun too!

[GoFish]

You shouldn't have any problems with having the intake of your choice machined to take the injectors and rails.

Yeah, I can get the intake machined, but I was just trying to save a little. I've already got too much $ in this build...I have to hide as much as possible from the wife! ;)


And you want the power band from 35 to 80?

No, I'd prefer a power band around 2000 to 7000, but the 3500 to 8000 is the power band given for the Edelbrock Super Victor EFI manifold. That's the only manifold I could find that was strictly a bolt and go deal. guess I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and pay for machining.



Adding two turbos?

No, just the single T70.


...but I can suggest the posting of pics.

For some reason, my profile says I'm not allowed to post attachments. I'll have to figure out how to change that.

Thanks for the feedback! :thumb:

[skitzo_inc]

host them on photobucket.com or send them to me and I'll host them and post them
:thumb:
skitzo_inc@hotmail.com

[GoFish]

Thanks for the offer. Does that mean there's no way on this board to attach pics directly from my computer? :(

Sorry. I know this is off topic, but I'm kind of computer illiterate. I just know I attach pics pretty easily from my computer when I'm on www.forabodiesonly.com.

[rosie]

Thanks for the offer. Does that mean there's no way on this board to attach pics directly from my computer? :(

Sorry. I know this is off topic, but I'm kind of computer illiterate. I just know I attach pics pretty easily from my computer when I'm on www.forabodiesonly.com.

You can post attachments if you join the board. It's like 10 bucks. Not a big expense if you're going to be around.

The other way is to link it. I figured it out with the help of some members. Just "quote" this email. You'll see the " " in the beginning and end of where the pic is hosted. Put the URL of the pic in there and you'll have a pic! I signed up for photobucket and posted pictures from there till I registered. Super easy for any level of literacy.

Here's the example pic.

http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp214/bigsteventhesteve/rosielilrosieAlan.jpg

[ohiorob]

I think the single plane would be the way to go for a boosted engine. the Victor would make things alot simpler. get a small cam for turbo or nitrous that would match the power band that you are looking for.

good luck

[2.216VTurbo]

You can post attachments if you join the board. It's like 10 bucks. Not a big expense if you're going to be around.

The other way is to link it. I figured it out with the help of some members. Just "quote" this email. You'll see the " " in the beginning and end of where the pic is hosted. Put the URL of the pic in there and you'll have a pic! I signed up for photobucket and posted pictures from there till I registered. Super easy for any level of literacy.

Here's the example pic.

http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp214/bigsteventhesteve/rosielilrosieAlan.jpg

Pinks All Out Baby:eyebrows: Friken' Rich Christenson and his crew didn't bring the cameras to that event:mad::censored:

[Turbodave]

Welcome to the site GoFish, I'm putting a plan together to turbocharge my 71 Scamp also. I'm sticking with the Slant six so it's a much different setup than your putting together.

However I think Rob's advice is sound on sticking with the single plane intake. A boosted engine is going to behave much differently than a naturally aspirated one and the rpm ranges given by the mfr's don't put that into consideration. The cam and turbo choices will define your powerband more than the intake.

[GoFish]

Thanks for all the input.

Yes, I've decided to go with that Edelbrock Super Victor EFI intake and fuel rails. I was originally thinking of the Professional Products Crosswind intake, but the owner of the company is a neighbor of mine and he said that the nitrous bosses that are cast into that intake are not strong enough for fuel injectors. In addition, he said that mounts for the rails would also have to be machined in, so the machining costs would also outweigh the cost savings with that intake. He recommended going with the Eddy, saying that the fuel injection would take care of my low-end torque concerns.

I'll get some pics up here soon...

[t3rse]

don't come back until you have pics! :mad:

:eyebrows: just kidding

[GoFish]

Hope this works...pics of my motor. Intake and fuel rails just arrived today! They'll go on this weekend.

http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/TurboScamp/ScampMotor001.jpg


http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/TurboScamp/ScampMotor002.jpg


http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/TurboScamp/ScampMotor003.jpg

[jackdaniels]

Wow! great car!!
Lol, i have a 71 scamp as well...
Ill throw in a 392 hemi later on.
Good luck with your project

[Captain Chaos]

Hope this works...pics of my motor. Intake and fuel rails just arrived today! They'll go on this weekend.

http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/TurboScamp/ScampMotor001.jpg


http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/TurboScamp/ScampMotor002.jpg


http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/TurboScamp/ScampMotor003.jpg

Sweet build. Please have your neighbor ship me a 5.9 magnum style carb manifold for psycholgical evaluation and abuse. I'll post details soon after! Oh yeah and WOOT! For another A body owner!

[butchsuppe]

So where in L.A. are you ? I'd like to see your project in person and invite you to the CaSDAC meeting. I live in Culver City.

[contraption22]

Thats not Glyptol in the lifter valley, is it? I don't trust that stuff.

[GoFish]

So where in L.A. are you ? I'd like to see your project in person and invite you to the CaSDAC meeting. I live in Culver City.

I live just South of you in Westchester. Unfortunately, my motor is at TG's in Lawndale, my car is in Hawthorne at the upholstery shop, and my turbo guy just moved to a new shop in Placentia. the only thing in my garage is my fuel injection setup and the grill and miscellaneous trip pieces I'm polishing! What's CaSDAC?

Contraption22, what's wrong with Glyptol? I've never heard of an engine builder who DIDN'T use it.

[butchsuppe]

CaSDAC is the California chapter of the Shelby Dodge Automobile Club, a few guys have Rampages, and 1 Scamp. We meet the 1st thursday of the month in LaHabra.

[GoFish]

LOL. Sorry for my ignorance...my other car is a '70 'Cuda with a carbuerated 440, so Rampages and those later Scamps are too new for me! :eyebrows:

[butchsuppe]

Damn, I had a 70 Cuda 340 4 spd. I GOTTA check your car out.:thumb: By the way I used to live on 74 St.

[2.216VTurbo]

CaSDAC is the California chapter of the Shelby Dodge Automobile Club, a few guys have Rampages, and 1 Scamp. We meet the 1st thursday of the month in LaHabra.


Yeah, like Butch said GoFish, C'mon out and check us out, next meet is Thursday Feb 5th, about 8pm Applebees 1238 Imperial Highway, La Habra. Cross street Beach Blvd Imperial Hwy. Lots of diehard Mopar guys (and gals) there every month:thumb:

[GoFish]

Yeah, like Butch said GoFish, C'mon out and check us out, next meet is Thursday Feb 5th, about 8pm Applebees 1238 Imperial Highway, La Habra. Cross street Beach Blvd Imperial Hwy. Lots of diehard Mopar guys (and gals) there every month:thumb:

I take an auto mechanics class every Tuesday and Thursday night at Westchester HS, but I'll see what I can do...thanks for the Invitation! Don't know how my Plymouth 'Cuda would go over at a Shelby Dodge gathering.

[fleckster]

It would go over well! We don't discriminate! Many of us have older Mopar in addition to newer turbo cars. For example, I have a '71 Duster done up as a 340 clone but with a 440.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/562/medium/Duster_1.jpg
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/562/Duster_440.jpg

I look forward to seeing your engine and Scamp project as it progresses!

[butchsuppe]

I take an auto mechanics class every Tuesday and Thursday night at Westchester HS, but I'll see what I can do...thanks for the Invitation! Don't know how my Plymouth 'Cuda would go over at a Shelby Dodge gathering.

It would go over REALLY WELL if I got a ride to the meeting in it.:thumb: Maybe I can talk FORZA V12 into bringing out his Vanishing Point Challenger for an E-body theme meeting. Then there's Turbo Jerry building a twin turbo 340 Duster. By the way, I've been a professional auto tech for 25+yrs.

[GoFish]

Turbo Scamp update...

http://s402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/TurboScamp/?action=view&current=CarUpholstery003.jpg

http://s402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/TurboScamp/?action=view&current=Dash1.jpg

http://s402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/TurboScamp/?action=view&current=Dash2.jpg

[spoolinhard]

It would go over well! We don't discriminate! Many of us have older Mopar in addition to newer turbo cars. For example, I have a '71 Duster done up as a 340 clone but with a 440.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/562/medium/Duster_1.jpg
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/562/Duster_440.jpg

I look forward to seeing your engine and Scamp project as it progresses!

That is one sexy duster.....and Im not an A-body fan!