Who has run the fastest in a TIII powered car/van, full weight?

[turbovanman²]

Cory aka Bansheenut brought this up so I'd thought it would be interesting to see who has the fastest.

Not gutted, no a/c is fine, full interior, slicks, all seasons-doesn't matter, trans too.

Wallace's R/T has run low 11's at 120 mph.

[unluckyty]

Not the fastest, but 112.5 mph full weight spare ,jack etc.

Greg

[turbovanman²]

Not the fastest, but 112.5 mph full weight spare ,jack etc.

Greg

1/4 mile time?

[Pat]

I made a real effort to get into the 11's with my old R/T but got sick of constantly breaking driveline parts. It's best pass was 12.07 @ 118.5. Full weight, AC and all. Larry Jolliffe also did low 12's in his (prior to going with the Precision turbo and alky). I think he did a 12.1 or 12.2 at 117 ish.

[bansheenut420]

Nice times guys! :thumb:

[fleckster]

I'm way slow (and now broken) but damn near stock, I've gone 13.34 @ 102. (mods being 2.5" catless exhaust, computer set up with +20%s, and dual core front mount intercooler running all the boost the stock turbo will make.)

[turbovanman²]

I'm way slow (and now broken) but damn near stock, I've gone 13.34 @ 102. (mods being 2.5" catless exhaust, computer set up with +20%s, and dual core front mount intercooler running all the boost the stock turbo will make.)

Thats pretty good, :clap: What did you break now? :(

[fleckster]

I hurt the transmission. When I was making my last test pass at the Mopar Nats Sunday before eliminations, I launched and everything was cool until I went to shift to third. All I got was grinding. I lifted and coasted through. I was able to get it into 3rd on the return road. When I got back to the pits, I checked the shift cables and we adjusted the linkage (unfortunately, there's only adjustment for left to right, not front to back which is what was feeling weird after that) but it didn't fix it. Now it has a bad whine and a strange "rubber rubbing" sound and even once in a while, there is come serious clunking and binding. I limped it on the trailer and then into the garage. It looks like I'll have to pull it and find out what went wrong. Maybe a shift fork or something. It's the first time I've actually had something break at the track.

[turbovanman²]

Bummer, :(

[unluckyty]

Only able to manage a 13.0 so far, not very good in the first 1/8 mile 8.9-9.0's. 2.1-2.2 60 foot.

Greg

[86Shelby]

I envy you all, 14.9 @104.

[fleckster]

I envy you all, 14.9 @104.

104mph?!? You're faster than me! You just need some traction! My 13.34 was with slicks. I'm only 13.77 without. Best 60' on street tires is a 2.1.

[turbovanman²]

104mph?!? You're faster than me! You just need some traction! My 13.34 was with slicks. I'm only 13.77 without. Best 60' on street tires is a 2.1.

All your MPH kills mine, :o

[glht_omni]

john am i faster than you too?
1st time out, my best was 14.2@101, went back out for 3 more passes with a new pass side mount and got a 13.9@105 both on street tires.

[fleckster]

Definitely more mph as I'm only at 102. Looks like I'll getting a little more advantage at the tree with my best being a 13.77 on the treaded tires. Unfortunatly, I can't consistantly cut 2.1 short times so I vary from 13.7 to 14.1 depending on traction.

[glht_omni]

maybe these taller tires aid in the mph increase?
on my 13.9 pass i think my 60' was 2.2 and it was at lapeer which felt better than the milan track at sdac. i am not consistent with my reaction time or 60', my worst pass the first time out was a 14.9
i still have the stock ic and you have that dual core, do you have a 2.5" or 3" exhaust? and if i remember right you are running a few psi more than me, i know your car is faster than mine.

[bansheenut420]

The only "official" time I have gotten is a 14.2@96. It was on the built motor/head and s70. But, it was hitting overboost badly after 2nd gear. So I coasted the last 150ft of the track or so. It ran a 14.7 on 8 psi too. lol Away from the track, and once I solved the overboost problem is was a good low 13 based on the cars I was beating. Most of them had 13.5 or lower slips, trapping in the 107-109 range.

[glht_omni]

this is kinda like the fastest iroc thread.
anybody know larrys best time, i know he did get it to the track at the 375whp range.

[Turbo3Iroc]

Josh, are you having to shift to 4th?

[fleckster]

Yes, I do have Warren Hall's old dual core intercooler made from two Turbo II stockers mounted behind the grille. I have a 2.5" exhaust with no cat and a quiet stock sounding muffler. (It was on the car when I bought it.) I am running the car with the turbo making all the boost that it can, definitely not efficient at that level which is around 20psi on my gauge. (lots of hot air!) With the turbo over-spinning like this, it runs much quicker when I short shift at 6000rpm. I too shift to 4th gear.

[glht_omni]

on the 14.2@101 and slower passes (sdac 18) i was running out 3rd gear, you and rick d told me to shift sooner and into 4th, i broke the mount but then i applied that the next time out and picked up .3 and 4mph!:thumb:

[glhs441]

I went 12.34 @ 113, on 16.5 psi in my 86 GLHS/TIII, 11.90 @ 118.36 w/ 70 hp shot in 3rd gear only. Will try again next week as I was 9 to 1 mixture while on the gas and needed to lean it out sum, better safe than sorry.

[glht_omni]

I went 12.34 @ 113, on 16.5 psi in my 86 GLHS/TIII, 11.90 @ 118.36 w/ 70 hp shot in 3rd gear only. Will try again next week as I was 9 to 1 mixture while on the gas and needed to lean it out sum, better safe than sorry.

ON 16.5 PSI !!!:clap: thats awesome
is it gutted any? what turbo?

[turbovanman²]

I think Andy is running the stock turbo, :wow1:

[bansheenut420]

I think Andy is running the stock turbo, :wow1:

And its full weight?

My RT is on the road.... Found out she will light the tires up at 100ish in 3rd gear. And that was on pretty low boost for what I am going to be running. :lol:
Video coming soon. lol

[glht_omni]

spin till 100ish or breaking them loose from a 100 mph roll? what rpm are you at 100ish and 3rd gear 6500-7k?

[Ondonti]

boost spike on accident ;)

[bansheenut420]

spin till 100ish or breaking them loose from a 100 mph roll? what rpm are you at 100ish and 3rd gear 6500-7k?

Broke loose around 100 when the wastegate line came off. And I am not sure about mph and rpm, but I am pretty sure when I let off at 7200ish, I was around 108-110 but I could be wrong. It was a bit of a handful at that point. :love: I love it. Took turbo224 for a ride today, and it seemed to make him jump alittle the first time it spooled hard. :D I have only been at 8-10 psi till the spike, so traction has been decent. Not 100% but decent. Even on 10psi, its hard to keep it out of the 7.5k rev limit in 1,2 and in 3rd at 22psi. lol

[glht_omni]

braking them loose at the end of 3rd with a quaife is awesome,:clap: sound like a blast to drive now, you have to post audio of that external wastegate, i am curious to how it sounds.

time to hit the 1/4 and the dyno.;)

mine just spun a rod bearing:banghead: so its getting ripped apart early this year for a rebuild and everything.

[bansheenut420]

Will be at the track on friday, so long as I dont break anything by then. There is a dyno day on the 20th or somthing here local I would love to go to, if I dont break anything by then. lol I will also be doing some salt flats racing at the end of the month if I dont break anything by then. lol I will have some video hopfully tomorrow. Would have today, but it started raining. This car will never see the rain again. Its a handful on dry pavement. lol

[Lotashelbys]

Will be at the track on friday, so long as I dont break anything by then. There is a dyno day on the 20th or somthing here local I would love to go to, if I dont break anything by then. lol I will also be doing some salt flats racing at the end of the month if I dont break anything by then. lol I will have some video hopfully tomorrow. Would have today, but it started raining. This car will never see the rain again. Its a handful on dry pavement. lol

Hey Cory,you should just not break anything:D

As for racing last weekend my buddy in his full weight Spirit R/T(less A/C) with a Holset off an 05 Cummins and a cheap front mount and 27 PSI went 13.3 @114 with a 2.7 60 foot. If he knew how to come out of the hole im thinking low 12s:thumb:

[BadAssPerformance]

Hey Cory,you should just not break anything:D

As for racing last weekend my buddy in his full weight Spirit R/T(less A/C) with a Holset off an 05 Cummins and a cheap front mount and 27 PSI went 13.3 @114 with a 2.7 60 foot. If he knew how to come out of the hole im thinking low 12s:thumb:

Yeah, thats definitly good 12 second mph :thumb:

[Lotashelbys]

Yeah, thats definitly good 12 second mph :thumb:

We are taking it to the Grove in a few weeks,you wanna come and play too?

[BadAssPerformance]

Hell yeah, now that the Z is running agian, it needs to go back for some tuning! :thumb:

I was planning to hit up a Tuesday night t-n-t as those are usually wide open, run all you want, but a week night is prolly not too good for you guys being a tad further away? I'm only 1 hour from Grove.

[CaptMoe]

went 13.3 @114 with a 2.7 60 foot. If he knew how to come out of the hole im thinking low 12s:thumb:

So what's the key to a good 60' time?

[Turbo3Iroc]

http://www.mandhtires.com/sc_images/products/330_large_image.jpg

[glht_omni]

LOL^^^^
that is the main key, you can launch hard and give it hell all the way down the track.
with street tires a 2.2 60' time is a real good lauch and on slicks 2.0 or better is where you should be.

[CaptMoe]

so it's all traction related?

[Turbo3Iroc]

Pretty much, without slicks on a high hp car it's not hard to blow the tires away.

[turbovanman²]

http://www.mandhtires.com/sc_images/products/330_large_image.jpg

Thats awesome, :hail:


so it's all traction related?

Yep, thats why you'll see a high HP car go thru at 14.0 but trap at 115mph, an example of course. They couldn't hook but with the HP, they can run some serious MPH.


Pretty much, without slicks on a high hp car it's not hard to blow the tires away.

Yep, with slicks, I can actually launch hard, without, its pointless, wheel spin or I have to come out of the hole with almost no boost.

Another example, my trans wouldn't shift into 3rd, came out of the hole, 1.9 60ft, went thru the traps in 2nd gear, 13.3@96, had a 12 sec Acura covered until it wouldn't shift. The reason a good time and low MPH, it hooked but because of no 3rd gear, it fell flat, like 7/8 sec cars that come out hard, then shut down at half track, run a 10 sec 1/4 at 60 mph, :mad: lol!

[glht_omni]

good example:
fleckster went 13.7 @100 (i think) on street tire, but with just throwing on slicks one pass later ran a 13.1 @100mph. he just hooked better.

i have a buddy with a 68 firebird that runs 13.1 @86mph, he has a 502 but a stock 400 trans and 4:10 rear end, if he were to increase his top end, he would be in the low 11's.

[fleckster]

Actually it was 13.77@102, then 13.34@102. Traction rules! They weren't back to back runs as the best street tire pass was the first run of the day and the slicks pass was the last one of the day. However, they were the same day, same track, and with no changes made to the car all day. The short times were 2.1 on the street tires and 1.9 on slicks. That pretty much follows the rule for our cars, every tenth improvement in the 60 foot time is worth two tenths in the Quarter.

[Ondonti]

Regarding this record, I dont know why anyone would even talk about street tires :P

You can either try to make a decent 60' each pass but be incredibly inconsistant and still never get a decent launch, or sit on the rev limiter after staging and never stop holding WOT until you shift to 2nd (unless you shift WOT). A well sorted car 60's itself.

[CaptMoe]

Regarding this record, I dont know why anyone would even talk about street tires :P

I don't consider myself a hardcore track guy so I don't see myself going out to purchase slicks that may get used two or three times.

What do car magazines use when they run their cars? I'm sure they use stock rubber. And even though slicks will give you a better time, the street tires will give you a realistic time.

Maybe I'm wrong but, again, I'm not a track guy so, take it easy on me when replying...:love:

[Ondonti]

no slicks, no record :(
Realistic means "what would/could likely happen"

So slicks vs radials has nothing to do with something being realistic.

Also, magazine car tests are about the least realistic use of a car. If we believed what they said, this website wouldn't exist ;)

Magazines test factory cars. They rarely play with modified cars. If they do, they are not the ones driving.

[glhs441]

went 12.05 @ 114.26 with a 1.72 short time tonight in the TIII/GLHS on 18 psi.

[glht_omni]

went 12.05 @ 114.26 with a 1.72 short time tonight in the TIII/GLHS on 18 psi.

well i think that is the current record that has been announced yet.

[bansheenut420]

Mopar2ya has gone 11.6 @ 121 In a full weight spirit.

[glhs441]

Wallace is king !!!!!!!!!!!!
Sexy Too !!

[Lotashelbys]

Wallace is king !!!!!!!!!!!!
Sexy Too !!

Cute little bugger isnt he:eyebrows:

[glht_omni]

i sense some GAZING??? LOL!

forgot about wallace being in the 11's

[t3rse]

I don't consider myself a hardcore track guy so I don't see myself going out to purchase slicks that may get used two or three times.


slicks are cheap compared to ruining street tires....once you get hooked you'll be out there every weekend anyways....

[turbovanman²]

Cute little bugger isnt he:eyebrows:

Sure if you think Shrek is cute, :lol:


slicks are cheap compared to ruining street tires....once you get hooked you'll be out there every weekend anyways....

Yep, agreed. I got some used ones for a $100 and got 2 years out of them. I will buy some new ones for next year.

[CaptMoe]

slicks are cheap compared to ruining street tires....once you get hooked you'll be out there every weekend anyways....


Oh boy...I don't think you should've told me that...:thumb:

I may have to clear out the extra set of Ninjas and tires I have to make room for slicks...

[glhs441]

12.05 was with stock TII intercooler, stock TIII cal. and +20s

Anyone know what the stock intercooler record is ?

[BadAssPerformance]

A local T2/5-speed SC went 11.84 with a stock IC...

[glhs441]

I will have to try harder !

I bought a pair of bogarts, less reciprocating weight should help.

[BadAssPerformance]

Yes it will, Bogarts rule! :thumb:

[turbovanman²]

12.8@105 in a full weight Minivan, :partywoot:

[bansheenut420]

Not official numbers by anymeans. But hopefully a glimpse of things to come. The RT is running 19.5psi (11.2ish a/f, 1450 deg egt, full spool by 4100-4500). The tired old walbro 255 seems to be really tired, and doesnt want to go over 22, so until a new one gets here. keeping the boost "low" The other night, got to do a couple pulls with a Charger SRT8. It was a beautiful black car. Nicely done. We saw each other on the highway. He reved at me as I cruised past just keeping up with the small amount of traffic on the road. We went from a 3rd gear (for me) 50mph. Way out of the happy rpm zone for my holset. but, it still made a nice 14psi right away, which kept the charger at my rear bumper, which is where he stared, but at about 5000 rpm, the turbo totally wakes up, squeaks the drag radials, and proceeds to pull the srt without a problem to a minimum of 2 cars at 6800-7k in 4th gear. (probably was more, but its hard to look anywhere but the road at that speed) :D I was ecstatic. I knew the car felt good, but never really had a good test for it until that night. We pull up to the next light, and the guys passengers mouth was on the door. He asked what I had done and I was so damn excited, I didnt know what to say as I was kinda freaking out. lol I told him I had a holsethx40, meth injection and a couple other goodies. He says to me, I have heard of alot of them turbo cars running on ethanol. lol I had to tell him, no, no, no, pump gas. :D Meth injection aka boost cooler. Hes like, well props on one of the best sounding 6 cyl I have ever raced. I said, oh no its just a 2.2 liter. At this point his passenger pics his jaw up off the door and kinda yells A 2.2 LITER! I was like yeah. He again says, well props on one of the loudest, best sounding cars I have raced. At this point, I complimented him on his totally beautiful car and said, I could hear your exhaust over my cutout almost, what do you have done to that thing? He grins and says, exhaust, intake, programmer and "a couple other goodies" with this huge smile on his face. I have no idea what all was done to it, but it was a bad --- car. We proceeded to play alittle more as we went down the highway. At one point, a ford lightning saw us playing and wanted to join I guess. We blew him away so bad, I thought he wasnt trying. lol So, I have a little more faith in the car to say the least. lol Anyone want to guess on what " a couple other goodies" may have been? From the sound of it, it was not only open exhaust by possibly a cam or maybe even some head work, you know how they get that sound. His car sounded bad ---!
Will be putting a fuel pump in and heading to the dyno now that my electronic boost controller is here. Low will be set for 20, high 30, not sure about the "oh ---- I am getting beat" overboost button, but its there. :D Hope to have some numbers within the next month. :thumb:
I also have a video of the RT running a GTO from a stop. It was only the 5.7L and unfortunately stock, so it was not a real hard race despite the fact I was giving it away off the line. I was even letting off at the end early. :evil: I will be posting that as soon as I am done editing it.
There is this one too 15psi practice runs.- Video (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/15psi-practice-runs_184008.htm?ref=60fb59ee-6046-4220-84c1-99850085034e) in case anyone missed it. Its only 15psi, but I really like the spinning the drag radials in 2nd gear on the second pass. :eyebrows:

[bansheenut420]

12.8@105 in a full weight Minivan, :partywoot:

Very nice man! :nod:

[BadAssPerformance]

12.8@105 in a full weight Minivan, :partywoot:

hell yeah :clap: ... now imagine what that tool shed would do if you shed 500+ lbs ;)

[turbovanman²]

Good job Cory, :hail:


I had some guy come over who races a big block V8 and was so impressed, he chatted my ear off and wants to build a tube frame SC with my kind of motor, RWD.

[bansheenut420]

Good job Cory, :hail:


I had some guy come over who races a big block V8 and was so impressed, he chatted my ear off and wants to build a tube frame SC with my kind of motor, RWD.

Thanks man. Props to you too. With how well this thing runs at 20, I cant wait to get her to 30 or more. :nod:

[Lotashelbys]

12.8@105 in a full weight Minivan, :partywoot:

Nice! Just how much does the hot rod van weigh again?


I wish we could of got back to the track with slicks on the "Not Rod" Spirit of my buddies,best it ever got was 13.100@115 with 2.3 60' on DRs. Holset power baby!

[turbovanman²]

Nice! Just how much does the hot rod van weigh again?


I wish we could of got back to the track with slicks on the "Not Rod" Spirit of my buddies,best it ever got was 13.100@115 with 2.3 60' on DRs. Holset power baby!

Go here for the info-

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30057

The van weighs 3350, I weigh 185 lbs.

[bansheenut420]

Holset power baby!
:nod::amen::rockon: took the words right out of my mouth.
I figured your van would be alot heavier than that. The RT are right up there. :o lol RT's are pigs!

[glht_omni]

awesome guys, i have some catching up to do next spring, thats why i am rebuilding it strong, all arp, diamond pistons and some cryo freezing.

[turbovanman²]

:nod::amen::rockon: took the words right out of my mouth.
I figured your van would be alot heavier than that. The RT are right up there. :o lol RT's are pigs!

Thats pretty heavy, I believe I have the heaviest one of all, plus I still have A/C.

Don't forget, I have the front end of a tool shed and aerodynamics too boot, :confused: lol!

[glht_omni]

faster than a flying BRICK!!!!

[bansheenut420]

Thats pretty heavy, I believe I have the heaviest one of all, plus I still have A/C.

Don't forget, I have the front end of a tool shed and aerodynamics too boot, :confused: lol!

I will have to find my weigh slip, but I am within 150lbs of you IIRC. Plus, areodynamics dont hurt you unless your dyno is moving. :p I figured the vans weighed ALOT more.

[bansheenut420]

awesome guys, i have some catching up to do next spring, thats why i am rebuilding it strong, all arp, diamond pistons and some cryo freezing.

my spare block is getting the full treatment as well (although I am totally sold on Venoilas) It will be a LoneWolf bulit block, Manley's and ARP's 4 bolt main caps, the works. Should get me closer to my 9k rev goal. :D But, we will see how much a stock shot peened rod can take first.

[Directconnection]

I'm thinking.... since my Shadow is on hiatus.... maybe I should sell off all of my 8v pieces and just use one of my T-IIIs in my '90 VNT Shadow.

Problem is... tallying up all of the parts to get my money back. Everything is new or rebuilt.

I have the best of everything for an 8v 2.5 build... including a new g-head! Can't gauge interests....

Hmm.... it is what I always wanted to do.

[turbovanman²]

I'm thinking.... since my Shadow is on hiatus.... maybe I should sell off all of my 8v pieces and just use one of my T-IIIs in my '90 VNT Shadow.

.

Do it, do it, 8 valves suck, :evil: :clap:

[Directconnection]

Do it, do it, 8 valves suck, :evil: :clap:

Problem #1) is I have quite a few thousand into this engine. It just needs to be assembled.

#2) I am not all too familiar with the T-III even though I have a few of them vs. my 8v experience

#3) How much to build my T-III? Need new lifters... maybe performance cams, new turbo, pistons, SW, etc.... I can't come up with extra $ in the end.

brand new G-head, 2-piece intake heavily ported, exhaust manny I reworked big time and the flowbench shows flow gains bolted to the head (cannot sell as it was given to me) Ne wJEs, block work all done and painted, (arps and torque plate) rods redone, new bronze guides, new MP+1mm valves, custom ported 50 trim T3/T4, etc... .. list just goes on. Even though all new... take a loss to sell I think.

[BadAssPerformance]

Do it, do it, 8 valves suck, :evil: :clap:

So this is why there are more fast 8V TM's than 16V TM's? ;)

[turbovanman²]

So this is why there are more fast 8V TM's than 16V TM's? ;)

Sheer production numbers, hehehehehe! says the man with a 2.4 Shelby Z, :confused: ;)

[Directconnection]

It is because there's alot more R+D on the 8v combos vs the much less unchartered territories of the T-III.

[Ubmbass]

CONGRATS SIMON!!!! now.. get some video up or I will have to come up there and kill you.. LOL!!

[turbovanman²]

CONGRATS SIMON!!!! now.. get some video up or I will have to come up there and kill you.. LOL!!

Hahhhahha, I was waiting for you to chime in, :nod:

Someone took a vid but he hasn't sent it to me yet, I hope he does, as I don't know him, fingers crossed.

[cordes]

So this is why there are more fast 8V TM's than 16V TM's? ;)

You beat me to it.

[turbovanman²]

You beat me to it.

Like I said, sheer volume, ;)

And I was messing around incase you guys didn't get it. ;) 8 valve of course can be made fun but 16 valves just upps the fun factor and in some cases, alot cheaper especially in a heavier vehicle. Oh snap, let the flaming begin, :D

[cordes]

Like I said, sheer volume, ;)

And I was messing around incase you guys didn't get it. ;) 8 valve of course can be made fun but 16 valves just upps the fun factor and in some cases, alot cheaper especially in a heavier vehicle. Oh snap, let the flaming begin, :D

No, I hear what you are saying. I think the next motor to go in my 600 (not that this one has moved under its own power yet) will be a super cheap hybrid build.

[Turbo3Iroc]

My race weight in the Daytona is 3150 and I am the last 150 of it. I too thought vans were heavier.

[glht_omni]

makes me wonder what my old van would have weighed, no ac, condensor, purge/charchoal can, 5spd trans, no plastic besides the front door panels, a pillars and dash, just carpet and 2 buckets, nothing else, no power anything.
2800lbs maybe?

[turbovanman²]

My race weight in the Daytona is 3150 and I am the last 150 of it. I too thought vans were heavier.

400 lbs is alot. I'll take that and your aerodynamics anyday, :clap:



makes me wonder what my old van would have weighed, no ac, condensor, purge/charchoal can, 5spd trans, no plastic besides the front door panels, a pillars and dash, just carpet and 2 buckets, nothing else, no power anything.
2800lbs maybe?

Probably pretty close.

[glht_omni]

i wish it would have made it to the road, it would have been loud rattling, but should have flew with the setup i had for it that put a shadow on the road instead.

[Turbo3Iroc]

makes me wonder what my old van would have weighed, no ac, condensor, purge/charchoal can, 5spd trans, no plastic besides the front door panels, a pillars and dash, just carpet and 2 buckets, nothing else, no power anything.
2800lbs maybe?

I think that's a bit optimistic but that's probably the lightest turbo van out there.

[Turbo3Iroc]

400 lbs is alot. I'll take that and your aerodynamics anyday, :clap:


I know but I honestly thought vans were heavier as I posted earlier. Yea the aero helps a bit also :nod:

[turbovanman²]

I think that's a bit optimistic but that's probably the lightest turbo van out there.

Corby's was lighter, but his was gutted, lexan windows, no dash, the whole works. I think a new member just removed everything but the dash and his weighs 2800 lbs.


I know but I honestly thought vans were heavier as I posted earlier. Yea the aero helps a bit also :nod:


I honestly thought Spirits were lighter, ;)

[GLHNSLHT2]

8v van still faster than 16v van :)

[turbovanman²]

8v van still faster than 16v van :)

Hahahaha-more tuning, bigger/better IC, almost 1000 lbs less, do the math, ;)

[glht_omni]

well simon, next move is a big treadstone ic, holset, more tuning and drop 1000lbs and represent lotus power!

[turbovanman²]

well simon, next move is a big treadstone ic, holset, more tuning and drop 1000lbs and represent lotus power!

I think I am doing just fine- I like my cruise, power windows, power door locks, tilt, a/c, full interior, sound system and still running 12's, :nod:

But either a holset or GT35R is in the future, maybe, :eyebrows:

[GLHNSLHT2]

almost 1000 lbs less, do the math, ;)

Have you ever seen Terry? He's no lightweight. I don't think his van is tipping the scales at 2500lbs race weight.

[turbovanman²]

Have you ever seen Terry? He's no lightweight. I don't think his van is tipping the scales at 2500lbs race weight.

Oh him, thought you were talking about Corby. Terry also knows how to tune, I don't. He also used :nx: ;)

[GLHNSLHT2]

only on the 11.7x run, the 11.9x run was ALL BOOST :)