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johnl
06-12-2008, 12:44 AM
That's it. Cat in the Ramerati is dead. Parts rattling around in there.

What's with these "high flow" cats?

Best one? Best price?

johnl
06-12-2008, 01:21 AM
What about this one? Price is right.

http://www.performance-curve.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1060

Birddog
06-12-2008, 01:37 AM
Don't buy that! It's crap! It will fall apart internally within.. Mine lasted 2 months.. A "test" pipe went in and a 3" DP after that then Il changed the E laws and it's a free for all..

If you really need a converter buy one sold through a company that has something to lose..

mock_glh
06-12-2008, 02:10 AM
How about this one? :thumb:
http://www.supersprintna.com/product-exec/product_id/313/category_id/139/search_make/2/search_year/2003/search_model/100

johnl
06-12-2008, 03:13 AM
How about this one? :thumb:
http://www.supersprintna.com/product-exec/product_id/313/category_id/139/search_make/2/search_year/2003/search_model/100

Gulp. $1300 ?!?

Thanks Mock?! Freaking jokester. I can buy 4 or 5 of the ceramics for that!

Blew it out at Willow - maybe - in looking at it though, it is dented/scraped from a high center driveway at my office - hauling stuff two weeks ago. I read about ceramic matrix fractures caused by that.

mario03SRT
06-12-2008, 07:45 AM
I'm using a 3" Catco. I Forget the exact price, but they are on Summit or Jegs. <100.00 from my recollection.

Turbo3Iroc
06-12-2008, 11:00 AM
How about this one? :thumb:
http://www.supersprintna.com/product-exec/product_id/313/category_id/139/search_make/2/search_year/2003/search_model/100

$1300 and not even street legal:lol:

I have had good luck with the Walker units. I've bought 3 of them for different cars without issue.

I had the heat shields of a Catco fall off of one in the past and swore off of them.

1984rampage
06-12-2008, 11:45 AM
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/product_info.php?cPath=10&products_id=320&osCsid=4996c628922b7dcf3417bfa6334674c2

quantum
06-12-2008, 12:02 PM
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/product_info.php?cPath=10&products_id=320&osCsid=4996c628922b7dcf3417bfa6334674c2

Awesome. I think I may be picking up one of these. Really, I drive the car less than 2000 miles a year which makes it "emissions exempt", but for the first inspection I need to have a "cat".

MiniMopar
06-12-2008, 12:16 PM
Nice "cat". If you need it to "convert" as well, the Catco is the cheapest one around. I think I got mine for like $65. I also have a high-flow Dynomax cat that has a wider body and looks like it flows more. It was about twice the price, though.

turbovanmanČ
06-12-2008, 12:33 PM
This one, last page.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21773

BadAssPerformance
06-12-2008, 01:01 PM
Here's the high flow 'cat' I'm putting on the new Dakota tonight :D

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/Catalog%20Images/pipe/stl004-01.jpg

johnl
06-12-2008, 01:57 PM
This one, last page.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21773

Thanks but all but one of the links are to dead ebay pages. Still that helped - put me onto metallics, dynas, high flow . . .

I'll probably just get one from Chris, he's got a $60 - $70 deal.

turbovanmanČ
06-12-2008, 02:26 PM
Thanks but all but one of the links are to dead ebay pages. Still that helped - put me onto metallics, dynas, high flow . . .

I'll probably just get one from Chris, he's got a $60 - $70 deal.

The Dynamax link is still good and thats the one too use. I hate to cost Chris a sale but those ones are junk.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/59959-Magnaflow-Metallic-Catalytic-Cat-Converter-3_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33629QQihZ004QQitemZ1 40183425334

Tony Hanna
06-12-2008, 02:33 PM
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/product_info.php?cPath=10&products_id=320&osCsid=4996c628922b7dcf3417bfa6334674c2

Nice! That's just what I need to pass the visual here in WV.:thumb:
Have you ever ordered anything from them?

MiniMopar
06-12-2008, 02:35 PM
I have used SI many times for IC plumbing stuff. They have some of the best prices around and a good selection.

Tony Hanna
06-12-2008, 02:39 PM
Thanks Russ! I'll have to order one of those when I get ready to get the Sundance inspected.

Marcus86GLHS
06-12-2008, 02:48 PM
Magnaflow's cats are cheap and flow well and will allow you to pass a sniffer test.

i passed Nazi CT emissions and went 12's with a stupid Magnaflow cat.

turbovanmanČ
06-12-2008, 03:18 PM
Magnaflow's cats are cheap and flow well and will allow you to pass a sniffer test.

i passed Nazi CT emissions and went 12's with a stupid Magnaflow cat.

But they don't last, there a throw away cat, :(

moparzrule
06-12-2008, 04:29 PM
I'm really surprised that silicone intakes can sell that fake cat.

turbovanmanČ
06-12-2008, 04:35 PM
I'm really surprised that silicone intakes can sell that fake cat.

They can because of this disclaimer and I gotta admit, pretty smart thinking, :hail:

Years ago, I just tack welded on some heat shields, :eyebrows:



This product does not perform the exhaust cleansing function of a catalytic converter in any way. Use of this product on the road might violate countless laws and prevent your car from passing emissions, therefore it is recommended for offroad and show use only.

1984rampage
06-12-2008, 06:05 PM
Nice! That's just what I need to pass the visual here in WV.:thumb:
Have you ever ordered anything from them?

Yep ordered a couple hundred dollars worth of silicone couplers/clamps etc. and it was as described and shipped fast!

crazymadbastard
06-12-2008, 06:27 PM
Magnaflow's cats are cheap and flow well and will allow you to pass a sniffer test.

i passed Nazi CT emissions and went 12's with a stupid Magnaflow cat.


Same here, the guy poped my hood open saw some huge Ic pipes, he was like wyf?:confused2: ,passed sniffer test with that cheapo cat.

Turbo3Iroc
06-13-2008, 12:42 AM
Here's the high flow 'cat' I'm putting on the new Dakota tonight :D

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/Catalog%20Images/pipe/stl004-01.jpg

Here in CT the police have been known to look under a "performance car" for a converter. Best to punch out an old one or pick up one of those fakes.

turbovanmanČ
06-13-2008, 12:48 AM
Here in CT the police have been known to look under a "performance car" for a converter. Best to punch out an old one or pick up one of those fakes.

Wow, thats pretty sad. They don't do that here, its not in there job description, if it doesn't involve donuts or radar guns, there not interested, lol!

BadAssPerformance
06-13-2008, 01:12 AM
Here in CT the police have been known to look under a "performance car" for a converter. Best to punch out an old one or pick up one of those fakes.

They dont here unless they are going thru the e-check which is now only '96 and newer :thumb: Police are supposed to have some sort of jurisdiction, but if they bring that up, I'll just inform them that I bought the vehicle that way and did not know. I dont foresee them checking tho, too many other things for them to be doing.

Turbo3Iroc
06-13-2008, 01:17 AM
I was wanting to replace a cat on one of the fleet with a pipe after I got it across the sniffer. Was advised by more than one of the other car guys at work not to use the straight pipe as they have had their cars checked before.

Turbo3Iroc
06-13-2008, 01:20 AM
Wow that's nice it's 96 and newer now. I wish my cars were exempt, money hungry CT goes back 25 years. I still have one test to go on my GLHS. Last one it just barely squeaked by with a brand new converter. It does have MP stage 2 though.

turbovanmanČ
06-13-2008, 02:43 AM
Wow that's nice it's 96 and newer now. I wish my cars were exempt, money hungry CT goes back 25 years. I still have one test to go on my GLHS. Last one it just barely squeaked by with a brand new converter. It does have MP stage 2 though.

Some converters are poor, I was a smog repair center so I've seen them all. With cats, most of the time, you get what you pay for. Theres a reason OEM cats are so much money.

Anonymous_User
06-13-2008, 04:18 AM
3" cat:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2072/1522361444_9f12d0e79d.jpg?v=0

OK, probably less than 3 inches and definitely not a high flow model!!!

moparzrule
06-13-2008, 06:17 AM
Wow is that real?

Turbo3Iroc
06-13-2008, 10:32 AM
Some converters are poor, I was a smog repair center so I've seen them all. With cats, most of the time, you get what you pay for. Theres a reason OEM cats are so much money.

I know there's a reason OE converters cost so much. This was a new Walker unit. But the car also has 145K on it and with the S2 LM I'm sure that makes it run richer. It was high on the HC, the others were just fine. So next time I'll prob need to get my hands on a stock LM and hope it passes.

johnl
06-13-2008, 10:55 AM
don't know if it is actually true but I've heard that the CA CHP, or maybe one of the smog cop agencies have, or are developing, sniffer trucks that sit on on-ramps with sensors that sniff for and then photograph the plates of any "gross polluter" car that is detected. :( Supposedly, the truck's equipment includes a thermometer that looks for the high temp of a cat and if it doesn't see it, then that too is cause for a pic of your plate to be snapped. Cal Trans is constructing cut outs on many on ramps - parking spaces on the right side - just big enough for such a vehicle/CHP cruiser to sit. Those cut outs are good parking spots for the CHP to ambush any passing speeder too. Because many on ramps are uphill to an above grade freeway, many of the cut outs are below the grade of the freeway - meaning that a CHP sitting there cannot see the traffic up on the freeway. At one now under construction near my house, they trenched from the cut out/parking pad up hill to the top of the on ramp where the trench terminates at a new steel pole - TV/Radar?:yuck:

MiniMopar
06-13-2008, 12:12 PM
Even when they were dyno testing here in IL, a TM in decent running order could pass easily with no cat. My dad gutted the cat on his '87 T1 Daytona and drove/smogged it like that for 5 years. It wasn't until he had about 200k on the motor that he finally failed. Put a cheapo cat on there and passed.

turbovanmanČ
06-13-2008, 12:13 PM
I know there's a reason OE converters cost so much. This was a new Walker unit. But the car also has 145K on it and with the S2 LM I'm sure that makes it run richer. It was high on the HC, the others were just fine. So next time I'll prob need to get my hands on a stock LM and hope it passes.


Just stating for the masses, ;)

Also, Walker has alot of cats, tried alot of them and our Aircare test center has to, and they only make 2 good lines out of probably 5 lines they carry. With your stricter emissions, some would be very hard to make a car pass, :o



Even when they were dyno testing here in IL, a TM in decent running order could pass easily with no cat. My dad gutted the cat on his '87 T1 Daytona and drove/smogged it like that for 5 years. It wasn't until he had about 200k on the motor that he finally failed. Put a cheapo cat on there and passed.

I tried with no cat and the NOx is out of control without a cat, I would pass CO and HC but fail NOx badly.

MiniMopar
06-13-2008, 12:20 PM
They didn't check NOx here. Just CO and HC. The CSX passed with no cat too, though the HC was close with the ND cal I had at the time. Now, as JT said, it's only '96 and up.

MiniMopar
06-13-2008, 12:24 PM
They dont here unless they are going thru the e-check which is now only '96 and newer :thumb: Police are supposed to have some sort of jurisdiction, but if they bring that up, I'll just inform them that I bought the vehicle that way and did not know. I dont foresee them checking tho, too many other things for them to be doing.

Anyone with a nose for it can smell when a car is not running a cat. So if you run into such a cop you could have a problem. But I have never heard of anyone in Chitown getting a ticket for no cat. Loud exhaust maybe.

Yeah the e-check guys have mirrors, but I can only remember one time that they actually looked.

turbovanmanČ
06-13-2008, 12:25 PM
Anyone with a nose for it can smell when a car is not running a cat. So if you run into such a cop you could have a problem. But I have never heard of anyone in Chitown getting a ticket for no cat. Loud exhaust maybe.

Yeah the e-check guys have mirrors, but I can only remember one time that they actually looked.

Yep, it has a different odour.

quantum
06-24-2008, 09:03 AM
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/product_info.php?cPath=10&products_id=320&osCsid=4996c628922b7dcf3417bfa6334674c2

I just ordered one of these. I'll post back up with pics when I get it and install it. Hopefully is will be good enough for a visual inspection.

Polygon
06-24-2008, 05:56 PM
Awesome. I think I may be picking up one of these. Really, I drive the car less than 2000 miles a year which makes it "emissions exempt", but for the first inspection I need to have a "cat".

How does that work? Is that a state by state thing? If I can do that here I'm welding in a test pipe.

quantum
06-24-2008, 08:06 PM
Yeah state by state. Here in PA I think anything under 5000 miles a year worth of driving is emissions exempt, but you need to pass the first inspection of course.