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lansingsportsrage
04-10-2008, 08:42 AM
Outside of Simon.. who has one of these ? Do they work better ??

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8334/manifold1mh1.jpg

Anyone got one for sale, know where one is for sale, or know where one is in a salvage yard ?

Clay
04-10-2008, 08:44 AM
Outside of Clay..

??? I dont have one of these?

lansingsportsrage
04-10-2008, 09:48 AM
Different guy.. I think his id is turbovanman

JDAWG
04-10-2008, 10:12 AM
turbovanman is simon. Didnt MP try some of these but they never made it to production?

Speedeuphoria
04-10-2008, 10:51 AM
why do you keep starting threads about this?

GLHNSLHT2
04-10-2008, 11:09 PM
what the hell is that thing? a TBI header?

moparfwdsleeper
04-11-2008, 02:32 AM
what the hell is that thing? a TBI header?

Almost, it's from a Mexican TBI car... I have one its like a factory tubular header(that doesn't crack:)). The even flow better then a US equipped TBI manifold. Only downside is no o2 provision so you either have to drill and tap or relocate the o2 sensor about 3" from the flange(to have room to remove DP flange bolts).

moparfwdsleeper
04-11-2008, 02:34 AM
Outside of Simon.. who has one of these ? Do they work better ??

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8334/manifold1mh1.jpg

Anyone got one for sale, know where one is for sale, or know where one is in a salvage yard ?

Just noticed this... That is mine, you picture stealing:censored:! j/k:p

BTW im Clayton:thumb:


??? I dont have one of these?
He was pretty much on point, just wrong username:p

BadAssPerformance
04-11-2008, 03:55 AM
So, anyone got any pictures of that manifold off the car?

moparfwdsleeper
04-11-2008, 05:15 AM
So, anyone got any pictures of that manifold off the car?


I may soon, I have a new head that is getting to the *almost done* stage that I will be swapping into the car. If I can remember I will take several pics of it:D

ShadowFromHell
04-11-2008, 09:11 AM
where did you get it from? order it straight from Chry?

moparfwdsleeper
04-11-2008, 10:19 AM
where did you get it from? order it straight from Chry?

Got it with the car, PO got it from Ed Peters.

I wonder what its worth now:p

turbovanmanČ
04-11-2008, 12:55 PM
Maybe I am missing something but whats the big deal? isn't it just a TBI header for an n/a?

Captain Chaos
04-11-2008, 12:59 PM
Maybe I am missing something but whats the big deal? isn't it just a TBI header for an n/a?

Yes, but I'm assuming they are modifying them like was previously done with the US designed N/A manifold.

lansingsportsrage
04-11-2008, 01:08 PM
Maybe I am missing something but whats the big deal? isn't it just a TBI header for an n/a?


Yes, but I'm assuming they are modifying them like was previously done with the US designed N/A manifold.

No.. its not. Its a completely different casting.

This is the standard TBI header..

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1300/header1yb2.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3512/header2zw2.jpg

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/6374/header3uf7.jpg

This is the Mexican TBI header..

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8334/manifold1mh1.jpg

turbovanmanČ
04-11-2008, 01:54 PM
Again, I fail to see the difference. One is a stock TBI n/a header/manifold, one is modified tbi header for a turbo?

MiniMopar
04-11-2008, 02:12 PM
I agree. I keep seeing that same picture posted but I can't tell what it is supposed to look like from that one angle.

Captain Chaos
04-11-2008, 04:28 PM
No.. its not. Its a completely different casting.


But its still just a normally aspirated manifold that will have to be modified with a turbo flange to mount a turbo. The mexican part looks like it has the same style hook up for the exhaust system as any other 80's fwd Dodge, Chrysler, Plymouth. Round with two bolts clamping them together. Please provide a good pic of the mexican piece if we are wrong. The pic you keep posting is worthless as a comparison pic.:thumb:

Speedeuphoria
04-11-2008, 04:51 PM
But its still just a normally aspirated manifold that will have to be modified with a turbo flange to mount a turbo.

he wants to use it for a NA car

moparfwdsleeper
04-11-2008, 05:30 PM
he wants to use it for a NA car

Atleast there is 3 of us who get this:lol:

Like I said when I can get a better pic of the manifold I will. What is on my car is in a higher class then a US TBI manifold:thumb:

Making this a turbo header seems difficult seeing how they are a ----- to get into the US, assuming you can(emissions are completely different there).

I will get the car on ramps today, not saying i'll have better pics but i'll try:)

turbovanmanČ
04-11-2008, 06:09 PM
Atleast there is 3 of us who get this:lol:



Considering this forum is called TURBO Mopar, you can see the confusion, ;)

moparfwdsleeper
04-11-2008, 06:17 PM
Considering this forum is called TURBO Mopar, you can see the confusion, ;)

Not when the picture shown in post 1 is clearly that of a non turbo car.:p No need to hold things back from this hobby just cause of the forum has turbo in it:)

Speedeuphoria
04-11-2008, 06:17 PM
I will get the car on ramps today, not saying i'll have better pics but i'll try:)

stand on your head and get this guy a pic of a manifold he will never be able to find, then we'll all be happy:grouphug:

moparfwdsleeper
04-11-2008, 06:21 PM
stand on your head and get this guy a pic of a manifold he will never be able to find, then we'll all be happy:grouphug:

not easy, the car is lowered 2" from stock.

moparfwdsleeper
04-11-2008, 06:39 PM
With it still on the car, hard to get a good pic:p This is what I could get though... Hope it helps for now.

If you could get your hands on one of these it would out perform the standard TBI to Turbo header.
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/1/4/6/4/0/img_0182.jpg
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/1/4/6/4/0/img_0181.jpg
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/1/4/6/4/0/img_0180.jpg
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/1/4/6/4/0/img_0179.jpg
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/1/4/6/4/0/img_0178.jpg
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/1/4/6/4/0/img_0183.jpg

turbovanmanČ
04-11-2008, 07:05 PM
Not when the picture shown in post 1 is clearly that of a non turbo car.:p No need to hold things back from this hobby just cause of the forum has turbo in it:)

So what if pic #1 shows a TBI header? this is Turbo Mopar so most of us assumed he was asking so he could build a turbo TBI header, hence the confusion. If he had simply stated it was for a TBI car-NO TURBO, then this wouldn't have got this far. I have no problem with N/A questions, just be clear about it, :clap:

Looking at your pics, I really don't see much of a difference between the Mexican and US version.

Speedeuphoria
04-11-2008, 07:06 PM
If you could get your hands on one of these it would out perform the standard TBI to Turbo header.

Yeah I think it looks more like the newer NA 2.4 mani's, its obliviously not but similar. Was prob a newer design or something

moparfwdsleeper
04-11-2008, 07:11 PM
So what if pic #1 shows a TBI header? this is Turbo Mopar so most of us assumed he was asking so he could build a turbo TBI header, hence the confusion. If he had simply stated it was for a TBI car-NO TURBO, then this wouldn't have got this far. I have no problem with N/A questions, just be clear about it, :clap:

Looking at your pics, I really don't see much of a difference between the Mexican and US version.

he didn't give any insight on why he was looking for one, i'll agree there. But from his post on its been about a N/A manifold. Nothing was said about turning it into a turbo header, just talking about the manifold in general:D But anyways:p lol

The pics do suck! There is a difference easier to see when one is next to the other. The design is better then that of a normal TBI manifold. The Mex. TBI is like a tubular header. equal length(IIRC) and straight to the "collector". It flows better over what we are use to from the TBI manifolds.


Yeah I think it looks more like the newer NA 2.4 mani's

I havnt ever took the time to look at a 2.4 manifold. Any pics?

Captain Chaos
04-11-2008, 07:39 PM
he wants to use it for a NA car

LOL. That only took 19 posts to clear up. Makes much more sense now.:thumb:

moparfwdsleeper
04-11-2008, 07:47 PM
LOL. That only took 19 posts to clear up. Makes much more sense now.:thumb:

LMFAO I don't know why but that got me laughing:lol:

moparfwdsleeper
04-11-2008, 07:48 PM
I'll have mine up for sale after awhile. I have a friend who is TIIIing his GLHS and i'll be buying the TII setup in it for my GLH so the N/A stuff won't be needed.

Captain Chaos
04-11-2008, 08:18 PM
LMFAO I don't know why but that got me laughing:lol:

Probably because it was ridiculous it took us that long to find out what was going on.lol I can agree with Simon, because like I said earlier it was assumed(the mother of all ---- ups) that he was wanting to build a turbo manifold. Without knowing he was looking for a little hp by swapping N/A manifolds. Plus his American N/A manifold pic was a modified unit, further cementing the belief, to me that he wanted a better turbo manifold. :thumb:

turbovanmanČ
04-11-2008, 08:19 PM
I'll have mine up for sale after awhile. I have a friend who is TIIIing his GLHS and i'll be buying the TII setup in it for my GLH so the N/A stuff won't be needed.

I thought you were going TIII in your GLH? :confused:

moparfwdsleeper
04-11-2008, 08:29 PM
I thought you were going TIII in your GLH? :confused:

Wouldn't mind but I think i'd rather TIII the CSX.

moparfwdsleeper
04-11-2008, 08:30 PM
Probably because it was ridiculous it took us that long to find out what was going on.lol I can agree with Simon, because like I said earlier it was assumed(the mother of all ---- ups) that he was wanting to build a turbo manifold. Without knowing he was looking for a little hp by swapping N/A manifolds. Plus his American N/A manifold pic was a modified unit, further cementing the belief, to me that he wanted a better turbo manifold. :thumb:

I can understand that view:p

tryingbe
04-11-2008, 08:40 PM
Take it off and take pictures already!

Captain Chaos
04-11-2008, 08:44 PM
I can understand that view:p


Atleast there is 3 of us who get this:lol:
:thumb: lol

moparfwdsleeper
04-11-2008, 08:47 PM
Take it off and take pictures already!

:)Still have to finish the new head and get the gaskets:p

Vigo
04-13-2008, 08:05 PM
i had no idea this piece existed... i want one for my n/a aries!

moparfwdsleeper
04-13-2008, 09:17 PM
When I TII/568 my GLH i'll have it for sale(probably eBay)

Speedeuphoria
04-14-2008, 01:03 AM
I havnt ever took the time to look at a 2.4 manifold. Any pics?

You can see one in the other thread he started about the same thing,
but he removed it, its still visable in "contraption22"'s post #13. Its not the same but the runners are more smooth like your header I believe, not squareish like the TBI header.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23468

moparfwdsleeper
04-14-2008, 01:09 AM
You can see one in the other thread he started about the same thing,
but he removed it, its still visable in "contraption22"'s post #13. Its not the same but the runners are more smooth like your header I believe, not squareish like the TBI header.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23468

I cleared up the confusion in that one now LOL just incase in the future someone comes across it and still wants to know what it is:p