Thinking about it, what do you think?

[LANCER#319]

I know Fieros well so why do I like this so much?

I really want this car. Do you think I am crazy? The guy that owns this car used it primarily for car shows. It was his toy. As you can tell by the photos he took impeccable care of it. Even put leather seats in where cloth used to be. To say it is clean would be an understatement. So please, tell me I am not crazy for wanting this :confused2:.

http://www.swcorvettes.com/inventory/1984pontfoindy/1984pontfoindy_01a.jpg

http://www.swcorvettes.com/inventory/1984pontfoindy/1984pontfoindy_09a.jpg

http://www.swcorvettes.com/inventory/1984pontfoindy/1984pontfoindy_02a.jpg

http://www.swcorvettes.com/inventory/1984pontfoindy/1984pontfoindy_06a.jpg

[Turbodave]

Looks like a clean car, just don't ask me to help work on it. Had a friend with two of them in high school, they had a lot of issues.

[JDAWG]

White interior is Not easy to keep clean.

[Captain Chaos]

Nice looking car. Buy it! NOW!!!!!

[moparzrule]

You are crazy. Fiero's suck the big one.

[moparzrule]

The real question is, how much???

[turbovanman²]

Fierio's got a bad rep but I honestly like them, :clap: That one looks super clean and would be really hard to keep that way. Fiero's make great cars for 3.8 SC motors, LT1's and the list goes on, :D:nod:

[raccoon]

slap a northstar V8 in and call it a day.

[moparzrule]

I seriously doubt with the rarity of that car and the condition it's in that he's gonna even think about doing an engine swap.

[Turbodave]

V8 Archie has his shop not far from me, and he's like the fiero v8 swap guru, he's put together some neat cars. Back when my buddy had his 85 we pulled the 2.8 V6 after it tossed a rod and were getting ready to do a 350 swap when he ran out of money and ended up selling the car.

He had an 86 SE? with the ground effects and the different rear windows. That car was a dog with the 2.5/auto combo, the fiero is heavier than it looks. That car leaked oil out of everywhere, eventually he sold it for $1500, a week later it caught fire and burned up on the side of the highway, the new owner got $2500 from his insurance for it...

[BadAssPerformance]

http://www.swcorvettes.com/inventory/1984pontfoindy/1984pontfoindy_02a.jpg

Faceman from the A-team called... he wants his Fiero back! ;)

[welby]

Beautiful car. Any time I see a Fiero I'm always reminded of this (not mine):

reminds me of my Fiero's alternator replacement steps...read the whole thing it's funny!

As of May of 2001:
1. Drive car, dies on highway, call AAA get towed home.
2. Car is able to start next morning, blame it on a fluke, let battery charge a little in the driveway and burn off some of last spring's gas (yes, drive it that little that the 8 gallon tank hasn't needed to be filled).
3. Drink beer.
4. Come back. Notice car is dead and won't start.
5. Remove battery, slice hand open on one of many sharp edges.
6. In frustration of step 6, continue to remove battery only faster so you can get a band-aid, bang knuckles on engine.
7. Rush in for bandages and an hour of TV. Also beer.
8. Come out in dark, finish with battery and put it on charger.
9. Realize the charger has nothing to clamp onto, because of the damn GM side-post battery design.
10. Say "F*ck it"
DAY 2
11. Go to car parts store, pay like $5 for two little posts to screw onto the battery so I can charge it.
12. Charge battery overnight.
DAY 3
13. Reinstall battery.
DAY 7
14. Drive car to a friend's to watch him rip apart a totalled Fiero and figure out how damn hard it is to get the engine out the bottom (yes, the bottom, it's the only way).
15. Stall car as you leave in front of other Fiero owners.
16. Have car die on way home.
17. Roll down hill towards gas station and conveinence store.
18. Call AAA again.
19. Buy beer and begin consuming waiting for tow truck. Take satisfaction in knowing the car stalled and it wasn't your fault.
20. Realize as tow truck takes forever that even if it wasn't your fault, your friends are still laughing at you behind your back.
21. Tow truck arrives, argue with truck driver that the Fiero is Rear Wheel Drive.
22. Watch car almost pop start as the tow truck guys sets it up like a FWD car, rub it in when the driver realizes it must be RWD.
23. Get home, pay tow truck driver. Think about fixin it. Repeat step 10.
DAY 14
24. Have GM friend over, get inspired to fix it.
25. Try to move car so you can get at the back. Wreck you and your friend's back as you try to move it and realize the brakes are rusted on from winter.
26. Finally get car in place. Jack up rear-end.
27. Night is here, with the car on jackstands, repeat again step 10.
DAY 15
28. Get in truck parked next to Fiero to drive to work. Realize car is sitting on ground like normal.
29. Say "F*ck me"
30. Find jackstands jammed through 4 inches of pavement and ground, and into the undercarriage.
31. Repeat 29.
32. Repeat 10.
33. Come home, jack car up, realize jack stands are bent to sh*t, and the 1 year old driveway has been severely damaged.
34. Jack car up, higher than before to put ramps under the rear tires, because you know that at least the emergency brake works.
35. Step 10
JUNE
36. Get inspired to fix it.
37. Step 10.
JULY
38-41. Repeat JUNE events in July and August.
SEPTEMBER
42. On a warm day, get inspired and remember why you said step 10 so many times...there's no way to get the alternator out.
43. step 10, only continue this time.
44. Realize you need to get the oil filter out to get the alternator out (damn Fiero design)
45. Discover that the used oil container is full. Instead of taking
it back to O'Reilly to recycle, dump in hole in back yard.
46. Repeat step 3.
47. Jack car up. Spend 30 minutes looking for jack stands.
48. Find jack stands under kid's pedal car.
49. In frustration, repeat again step 3.
50. Place drain pan under engine.
51. Look for 9/16 box end wrench.
52. Give up and use crescent wrench while getting beat up where the jack stands tore the smooth asphalt up months prior.
53. Unscrew drain plug.
54. Drop drain plug in pan of oil: Gets oil on you in
process.
55. Clean up mess.
56. Have another beer while watching oil drain.
58. Move oil bucket to location where it can be hit by the snow plow come winter.
59. Find out oil filter is smaller than the oil filter wrench.
60. Swear, drink beer.
61. Neighbor friend conveniently comes by because he wants to borrow something. Force him to use his small hands to get at the filter.
62. 61 fails. So friend climbs onto top of car and successfuly removes filter.
63. Begin work on alternator removal. Instruct friend he can't borrow my crap, but to stick around.
64. Remove wires and belts.
65. Remove all visible bolts to unit is loose.
66. Try to get it out, swear. Realize there's one more bolt holding it down from underneath.
67. Have friend hold it so it doesn't fall on your face when you get it off.
68. Friend says "It won't budge" even after finishing the bolt.
69. Step 10.
70. Play Gran Turismo 3 for an hour and resume work after schooling neighbor friend with 350 horsepower PT Cruiser.
71. Find more bolts, have friend hold.
72. Every damn obstruction is removed. Friend stops holding it, but it still won't budge.
73. Play with it, twist it, crush hand.
74. Step 29.
75. Finally get it loose, suddenly falls to where your head was and leaves a dent in the pavement.
76. Celebrate.
77. Tell friend to get lost.
78. Think about the replacement of it, step 10.
OCTOBER
79. Move car to winter place. Break back moving with brakes locked and after carefully jacking it off the ramps and such.
80. Buy 4 quarts of oil.
81. Replace old filter (the car doesn't deserve better.)
82. Shut trunk/hood/bonnet thing.
83. Find "Days of Thunder" soundtrack cassette you'd been looking for all summer.
84. Sit in and miss the "Good old days"
85. Remember what a pain in the --- the car is and repeat step 10.
86. Slam door.
NOVEMBER
87. Kick car every time you pass it. Swear at the dent resistant plastic panels.
CURRENT
Dead in the driveway until spring?

Oil: $5 Car & Driver brand from Target
AAA towing costs: $25
Pain: Lots
Insurace money lost while car sat dead, yet insured: I don't like to think about it.

Total, $30 + Insurance, 6 months, lots of pain, and the car's still dead.





Sorry that was so long, but that's exactly how it went.

[88_pacifica]

.....CURRENT

Dead in the driveway until spring?

Oil: $5 Car & Driver brand from Target
AAA towing costs: $25
Pain: Lots
Insurace money lost while car sat dead, yet insured: I don't like to think about it.

Total, $30 + Insurance, 6 months, lots of pain, and the car's still dead.





Sorry that was so long, but that's exactly how it went.

Sounds like a TD to me.... ;) :nod: I rather push a GM than drive a chrysler! :D :thumb:

[moparzrule]

Now thats a classic.

[LANCER#319]

The asking price on this car is $5995 which is a great deal given the cleanliness and rarity of the car. It has 67,000 miles on it. I have seen other pace car Fieros retailing at 12K with similar mileage. The place that is selling them deals in rare vintage muscle cars so this one is a bit of an oddity to them.

I will purchase it and leave it the way it is. Performing an engine swap on a rare car such as this is not something that I would consider. I don't even want to do this on the SL and it has a ton of miles on it. I am the type that likes to leave things factory stock as much as possible if it is a rare model. If it was a standard Fiero then I would perform a 3.8SC swap.

Now I just have to send the guy a check. He is in the Chicago area and I am in Sweden. Should be interesting trying to get this thing, but my brother works in the Chicago area so he will help out.

I really shouldn't get this since I have my ongoing SL restoration, Merkur Scorpio restoration which just began, and the fact that I won't even be in the country for another year. But this is a deal that I really shouldn't pass up on. I have wanted an Indy Fiero for many years now and this one is in near perfect shape. In summary, I am not completely crazy, just slightly I think.


To baddassperformance: I LOL'd with the face man comment. That was my first thought too when I saw my first Indy Fiero 15 years ago. I still like it though. It has that off the beaten path coolness that I am attracted too.

[LANCER#319]

Beautiful car. Any time I see a Fiero I'm always reminded of this (not mine):

reminds me of my Fiero's alternator replacement steps...read the whole thing it's funny! .......

Sorry that was so long, but that's exactly how it went.

This was a great post.

I had similar luck with a 1985 Feiro GT that I owned a while back. That thing was extremely difficult to work on. The V6 had absolutely no room around anything. I hope this 4 cylinder will be easier though. It won't be, but I can hope :D.

[Frank]

The asking price on this car is $5995 which is a great deal given the cleanliness and rarity of the car. It has 67,000 miles on it. I have seen other pace car Fieros retailing at 12K with similar mileage. The place that is selling them deals in rare vintage muscle cars so this one is a bit of an oddity to them.

I will purchase it and leave it the way it is. Performing an engine swap on a rare car such as this is not something that I would consider. I don't even want to do this on the SL and it has a ton of miles on it. I am the type that likes to leave things factory stock as much as possible if it is a rare model. If it was a standard Fiero then I would perform a 3.8SC swap.

Now I just have to send the guy a check. He is in the Chicago area and I am in Sweden. Should be interesting trying to get this thing, but my brother works in the Chicago area so he will help out.

I really shouldn't get this since I have my ongoing SL restoration, Merkur Scorpio restoration which just began, and the fact that I won't even be in the country for another year. But this is a deal that I really shouldn't pass up on. I have wanted an Indy Fiero for many years now and this one is in near perfect shape. In summary, I am not completely crazy, just slightly I think.


To baddassperformance: I LOL'd with the face man comment. That was my first thought too when I saw my first Indy Fiero 15 years ago. I still like it though. It has that off the beaten path coolness that I am attracted too.

Ahh, so you are just temporarily in Sweeden and live in the states? That would answer my question of how in the world you were going to want to pay the shipping on it.

[LANCER#319]

Ahh, so you are just temporarily in Sweeden and live in the states? That would answer my question of how in the world you were going to want to pay the shipping on it.


Yes I am on a 3 year assignment of which I have one year left. This would be stored at my Parents home until I return. In fact, I would think that my father will drive this every now and then on good summer days until I return. He really enjoys driving my cars. He is starting to fall in love with Turbo Mopars :wow1:.

[GLHS592]

Sounds like a TD to me.... ;) :nod: I rather push a GM than drive a chrysler! :D :thumb:

Well, that's a good thing then because most folks that own them push them. :p

Actually, I like the Fiero. That car almost looks like a museum piece that I'd be afraid to drive. I'd hold out for a 1988 GT and swap in a Northstar or supercharged 3800.

[88_pacifica]

Well, that's a good thing then because most folks that own them push them. :p

Actually, I like the Fiero. That car almost looks like a museum piece that I'd be afraid to drive. I'd hold out for a 1988 GT and swap in a Northstar or supercharged 3800.

Yep, I had to put that in there because I read it somewhere else(role reversed of course) and I always snickered when I read it[might've been here]. I think I like it primarily because I know that the frequency of me having to push is limited. ;) :nod::amen:

[WickedShelby88]

To the Fiero basher. I personally have only worked on 1. It wasn't bad and it helps if you have a lift. 2: if you are going to whine about the difficulty of removing the engine, remove the rear bumper cover and rent or buy a bumper jack like the truck places use. It will turn your whole perspective around. 3: Damn straight these things are fire prone... You know WHY? Cause most of the people who work on these things have no concept of what happens when you remove a heatshield.. Think of how hot the area behind your heat shield would get in a TD if you remove it.. Trust me DON'T DO IT. I haven't had good luck with a scenerio like that.. I had a boss where I used to work and the heat shield was absent from the bottom of a ford escort that had a clogged cat.. Lets just say the cat got red literally and the bottom of the carpet nearly melted to the floor and caught fire... And the b___ard had the nerve to give me the chore of trying to fix it.. Sheesh these threads bring back memories of daily life in the auto repair shop.. I've worked on anything from a 500 inch cadillac to a YUGO...

[t3rse]

so while you're in europe, want to get me a cossie yb motor?

[Aries_Turbo]

i had an 88 notchback with konis. 2.5L 5-speed. wasnt the fastest thing in the world but i loved that car. traded it for a taurus SHO. what I fool i was. :)

Brian

[LANCER#319]

The car was sold out from under me. Someone local bought it. The place where I found this though said he knows a person with a 1988 Fiero that has been meticulously restored. He is going to get me information on that one and get back with me. The 1988 is the better car overall with the Lotus engineered suspension, but the rarity of the pace car is something that I will miss.

[ShadowFromHell]

But now you can do a v6/v8 swap ;)

[Birddog]

It looks amazingly similar to one that Stencils & Stripes owns up north from me..

88+ cars are the ones to have.. Just better looking cars all around.. Sadly like the Corvair, well, we all know how treacherous independent rear suspensions are now...(same dimwit different car..)

[WickedShelby88]

I have a good friend in Indiana who has a virtual plethora of fieros and parts. He restored a very nice 88 formula with the good 5 speed and a 3.4 or cammed 3.1. Then they fiberglassed in a factory sunroof from a totalled western car. They went out west a while back and got 5 fieros that were rust free. If you need parts hit me up.

[iTurbo]

I don't know about the body style, but it still seems like it would be a fun car. If I had one, I'd get one with a 2.8L, and swap it out for a 3.1L w/turbo like the '89-'90 turbo Grand Prix got. That would probably be a pretty easy swap since the 2.8/3.1 were both 60-degree engines. I'm pretty sure even your Saab has a 60-degree V6 in it, although it's come a long way since the 80s.

[skitzo_inc]

I LOVE Fiero's.
My father has had two, and I would love to get one.
My dad did a Steath TT motor swap....deadly fast. At 80MPH on interstate, in fifth gear, put the pedal to the floor, breaks the back tires loose and you go sideways...too fast.
BUY IT!