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DC Turismo
02-16-2008, 12:29 AM
While reading Ralph Scott's post of finding the last Electric Blue Iroc R/T (now having them all accounted for except for one that was stolen in 02 :( ), I began to wonder, what would the list look like of the rarest turbo Mopars produced? The old school Mopar guys have those lists of the rarest 'Cuda, Challenger packages, etc. so I'm curious as to what a list of our style of cars would look like when broken down into the rarest.....

Of course, the blue Iroc R/T's would be close atop the list since only 8 were made in that color combo. Anyone want to give a shot at listing the rarest cars in order, #'d car or not? I guess we can throw prototypes in on this too, but do it in a separate list. The list should be based on rarity in terms of least # produced with certain options, etc. I post this up because I'd like to see input from those of you knowledgeable on the other various cars, such as Daytonas, Le Barons, Spirit R/Ts, Shelby Chargers, etc.

Here's a start, if I may: (Iroc R/T numbers used from Ralph Scott's website)

2 1989 CSX's w/ wide tire&non-recaro option
3 1990 Chrysler Le Baron GTC-VNT's w/Mini Trip, Infinity II/CD, Black, convt.
8 1993 Electric Blue Iroc R/T's
15 1989 CSX's w/ wide tire&recaro option
17 1993 White Iroc R/T's
21 1990 Dodge Daytona VNT's with AGS option
31 1992 Silver Spirit R/T's
32 1993 Red Iroc R/T's
34 1993 Black Iroc R/T's
60 1992 Black Iroc R/T's
75 1992 White Iroc R/T's
90 1993 Emerald Green Iroc R/T's
115 1992 Red Iroc R/T's
208 1989 Dodge Lancer Shelby's
255 1990 Chrysler Le Baron GTC-VNT's
279 1988 Dodge Lancer Shelby's
500 1986 Shelby GLHS Omni's
500 1989 Shelby CSX-VNT's
750 1987 Shelby CSX's
800 1987 Shelby Lancer's
1000 1987 Shelby GLHS Charger's
1000 1988 Shelby CSX-T's
1500 1989 Shelby Dakota's
? in red, ? in white

? 1990 Dodge Shadow VNT's (2 dr)
? 1990 Dodge Shadow VNT's (4 dr)

Prototypes:
2? 90 CSX prototypes in Bonzai Blue
3? 86 Shelby Lancer Prototypes
Hans Herman Head GLHS Omni

Hopefully we can come up with a good list that everyone agrees on and we can narrow down the rarest of the rare :)

Tony Fields
02-16-2008, 12:42 AM
Here's a couple that I own:

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/518/medium/GTCVNTData.jpg

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/518/medium/BlackShelbyData.jpg

87glhs232
02-16-2008, 12:57 AM
21 - 1990 Daytona VNT AGS

Tony Fields
02-16-2008, 01:11 AM
^^^^^^^

Forgot about the 90 C/S VNT

I have a friend in Seattle that brought one back from NY.

He has a friend in Tacoma that has one

Rare cars!

spyder
02-16-2008, 01:12 AM
I'd imagine a VNT Shadow 4-door has to be toward the top of the list.

"Top Fuel" Bender
02-16-2008, 01:33 AM
what about factory '86 glhs w/ rollcage
and didn't one get a sunroof also
of course one '86 hans herman head caged glhs also

DC Turismo
02-16-2008, 02:58 AM
Forgot about the 1990 Daytona VNT AGS cars, nice one Josh!
As well as the 1990 VNT Shadows (I know I've seen a breakdown on those before in color somewhere haven't I?)

Bruce, not sure about those GLHSs you mention (other than the Hans Herman one), so perhaps someone else can chime in?


This is exactly what I wanted to see - others pointing out additional cars like this. Keep it coming guys! I'll update the initial post as more information is collected. :D It'll be cool to see which vehicles would be ones to :hail: if found or picked up :clap:

Pat
02-16-2008, 07:30 AM
I seem to remember that there were 15 '89 CSX's with both the wide tire and recaro options. A friend of mine has owned two himself...one was totalled (a bone stock, perfect, 17k mile car) the other is sitting in storage.

Aries_Turbo
02-16-2008, 10:27 AM
0 1988 factory turbo 2-door 5-speed k cars ;) hehe

Brian

DC Turismo
02-16-2008, 10:32 AM
I seem to remember that there were 15 '89 CSX's with both the wide tire and recaro options. A friend of mine has owned two himself...one was totalled (a bone stock, perfect, 17k mile car) the other is sitting in storage.

Pat, that's listed.


Bucar, lol....

Directconnection
02-16-2008, 11:22 AM
Color combos shouldn't be included as "rarest" models produced at all along with leather seats, or what stereo it had. If hat were the case, there would be alot of one of one cars out there right now.

Years ago, I did the research on the VNT Shadows via DC. They told me there were no color breakdowns in their book, so am not sure where others aregetting the color info from.

141 VNT Shadows in '90, and 30 were competition package models. The 4 door cars supposedly were "none" wen talking to the woman's boos those years ago. He wasn't supposed to talk to the public, but I managed to talk to him for 2 minutes and that's what he told me. Then again, he had no idea there were T-IV's in P-bodies until the book showed the stats.

As far as the '90 VNT production #s.... we have:

VNT 4-door P-body
AGS VNT Daytona
VNT Lebarron convertibile
VNT Shadow comptition package
VNT Shadow ES
VNT Lebarron
VNT Daytona Shelby

Pretty much in order of production #s and the last... the VNT Daytona Shelby there were still just 540 produced.

Color breakdowns... Red and black are the most popular. If I broke down my competition package VNT Shadow that is red, then let's say it's a one of 13. No rear defrost, 9. No trunk or even a hood light, 3. No power amenities whatsoever 1 of 2. I am sure I could think of something to get it to one of one. But SILVER! I have only seen on FS online years ago. I think it was a CP car as well. Red, black, white and silver were the colors they could come in. I knew someone with a white VNT ES Shadow.

Anyone know how many turbo woody wagons were made? I always wanted one to make a sleeper out of. Close to 1,000?

spyder
02-16-2008, 12:04 PM
Curious how export cars would fit in ?? Certainly a Chrysler Phantom R/T or Chrysler IROC R/T would be fairly rare .

BadAssPerformance
02-16-2008, 12:10 PM
1 1988 CSX-T with Sunroof... The legendary one given to the daughter of the president of Thrifty Rental Cars

vxvxAndrewxvxv
02-16-2008, 01:39 PM
what about Alan's red/black 87 GLHS. only one of its kind if i remember?

badandy
02-16-2008, 02:48 PM
I know Franks Daytona is rare. The 1991 Daytona Shelby was only produced 1/2 year...of those I was never able to obtain production numbers...but I do know I have seen very few 1991 White/White Pumpers (was)...and even fewer with black leather interior completely loaded with factory sunroof and all the bells and whistles.

nBALLS
02-16-2008, 03:43 PM
^^^^^^^

Forgot about the 90 C/S VNT

I have a friend in Seattle that brought one back from NY.

He has a friend in Tacoma that has one

Rare cars!

You must be talking about Colin Young. I call him my "cousin" 'cause we have the same last name, but we aren't actually related. :lol:

He has bought two C/S VNTs from back east, then he bought mine when I sold it to him, then he bought a wrecked one that Rob Walsh had, when I told him Rob had it.

So Colin has 4 '90 AGS C/S VNT Daytonas:

I believe that this is the color breakdown he has:
1 White
2 Red
1 Blue(my old car)

The friend of his that had one in Tacoma, is my friend Aaron, and I traded Aaron an '87 Shelby Z T-Top 5spd with 76K on it, for the C/S back in '03. Aaron also has a '90 Shelby VNT that he is wanting to sell.

Here are a few pics: (best time at the track on a bleed to 11-ish psi was 15.2ish @88 or so, I forget exactly, but I have the time slip somewhere, lol.)
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars608.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars786.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars700.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars736.jpg

cordes
02-16-2008, 11:14 PM
Cool thread. Is there any way that we can get production numbers for the cars anymore? I have read that when Diamler came in they through out a lot of the info?

thx138
02-16-2008, 11:15 PM
90 cs vnt (ags option) There were 36 cars built according to the 90 production sheet for the US market. (the production sheet is online - yahoo groups, vnt something or other (can't remember)). I have no idea how many were built as chryslers and neither did chrylser canada when I contacted them (export - canadian cars). I have a red one and I knew of another one in Ontario.

bradp
02-16-2008, 11:27 PM
I owned one of the 2 89 CSX VNT cars and sold it just last year to a Shelby Collector in NJ. I still have one of the window stickers from it.

Tony Fields
02-16-2008, 11:33 PM
You must be talking about Colin Young. I call him my "cousin" 'cause we have the same last name, but we aren't actually related. :lol:

He has bought two C/S VNTs from back east, then he bought mine when I sold it to him, then he bought a wrecked one that Rob Walsh had, when I told him Rob had it.

So Colin has 4 '90 AGS C/S VNT Daytonas:

I believe that this is the color breakdown he has:
1 White
2 Red
1 Blue(my old car)

The friend of his that had one in Tacoma, is my friend Aaron, and I traded Aaron an '87 Shelby Z T-Top 5spd with 76K on it, for the C/S back in '03. Aaron also has a '90 Shelby VNT that he is wanting to sell.



Colin is the guy!

stereo
02-17-2008, 12:33 AM
what about factory '86 glhs w/ rollcage
and didn't one get a sunroof also
of course one '86 hans herman head caged glhs also

There is at least one that came from factory with a roll cage. It's been at one of our monthly so cal meetings a while back. I'm not sure why they did it or who owned it. Alan or one of the other so cal guys should remember. I think my bro-in-law(shelbypart) got some pics of it.

Also who could forget about the shelby vans. Unknown production number. I think the one my brother in law saw and got pics of had a dash plaque on it. I don't remember what number he said it had if he even made it out. Used to be right here in Temecula. He also saw another one on the freeway that was turned into a work car and was beat up and missing almost all the Shelby stuff.

There's also the 88' and 89' CSX proto's. Ithink there were like 5 or 6 of the 89's. Not positive.

Can't think of anything else off the top of my head right now. I might think of something else later.

cordes
02-17-2008, 12:57 PM
Shelby vans???

"Top Fuel" Bender
02-17-2008, 01:24 PM
found this on http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2006/11/goes-like-hell-shelby-glhs-cool.html

There were rumored to be two GLHS-specific options: a roll cage and an oil cooler. I was once told that cars 001 (Shelby's personal car), 007, 008, 010, 047, and 048 had the rollbar; however, Bob Marsh (the individual in charge of production at Shelby Automobiles during this period) claimed in a recent interview that no rollbar was ever installed in any "production" car--only a couple PR cars. I do not know which cars, if any, featured the oil cooler. (NOTE: the cars were not built in numeric order!)

ShadowFromHell
02-17-2008, 01:36 PM
what about the 89 CS AGS code daytonas? I found one a while back and I think my research showed it was 1 of 260 some cars... Stripped as could be with the go fast goodies!

also... kinda off topic but how can you tell if your 89 csx is a wide tire recaro car? Mine is a recaro, and came with 225/50's on it but I dont know if its factory.

rich tideswell
02-17-2008, 01:56 PM
2005 commemorative edition SRT-4's 200 made


2003 SRT-4 Total Production
Black = 816
Bright Silver Metallic = 619
Flame Red = 733
Solar Yellow = 1031

*******
2004 SRT-4 Total Production
Black = 2696
Bright Silver Metallic = 2039
Flame Red = 2050
Electric Blue = 2421; replaced solar yellow
Solar Yellow = 124; 7 had sunroofs. Officially not available as an option

*******
2005 SRT-4 Total Production
Black = 2763
Flame Red = 2186
Orange Blast = 1800
Stone White = 1669 ….. added mid 2005, replaced Bright Silver Metallic
Bright Silver Metallic =missing info here, was available until mid 2005

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/rtideswell/ACRBreakdownTable.jpg

ARL = Kicker Sound System
CGS = Side Airbag Seats
GWA = Sunroof

pw1 = stone white
pvk = Orange Blast Metallic
px8 = Black Crystal
pr4 = flame red
PS2 = Bright Silver Metallic
PB5 = Electric Blue
PYH = Solar Yellow

DaveSkrab
02-17-2008, 02:02 PM
How about a long wheel base turbo van? ;-) I've seen pictures of one.

nBALLS
02-17-2008, 02:22 PM
How about a long wheel base turbo van? ;-) I've seen pictures of one.

*Edit*

I have pictures of 6 of them, one of them in a J/Y, but only 5 of them on digital. :)

Let me dig those up...

85shelbycharger
02-17-2008, 02:32 PM
The A/C delete garnett/silver '87 SC's...there were only 250 or so made like that? I remember reading that somewhere...

nBALLS
02-17-2008, 02:45 PM
How about a long wheel base turbo van? ;-) I've seen pictures of one.

Ok, just in case someone says "They never made those!": more pictures.

The first one I saw was in the Junk Yard, and I took pictures of it with my old 35mm SLR, it was an '89 Maroon SE.

Then I saw these, all of them in about a year time span, back in like '04.

This one was a one owner with 63K on it, they bought it off the lot:
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars115.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars113.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars116.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars118.jpg

This one was a guy and his wife bought it several years ago from a car lot with 130k on it:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars322.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars325.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars323.jpg

This one the guy bought it from a tow auction, put a trans in it, and drove the crap out of it, had 230K on it.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars360.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars361.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars365.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars363.jpg

This one just happened to be at a Mopar show, guy was working the radio station tent, lol. Ouch, but he was still driving it, climbing in and out of the passenger side.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars716.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars717.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars719.jpg

This one Colin Young found at an insurance auction, hit lightly in the front, and he fixed it, I think he also bought a second one, that I never saw. His friend's son wanted to pose next to it, lol.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars769.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars775.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars774.jpg

3nglenn
02-17-2008, 04:25 PM
www.thedodgegarage.com/shelby_hotrods.html
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/3740/proto.html

Reaper1
02-17-2008, 05:11 PM
What about the Lancer Shelby(NOT the numbered cars)? Dunno any production info on them, but there used to be a white one that was a few blocks from my house.

Also, the '89 TII LeBaron H-body cars...not many of those built either IIRC.

BIG PSI
02-17-2008, 06:14 PM
How about a Factory Long Wheel Base Turbo Mini Van ?
I have a 1989 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE.

Chuck

BIG PSI
02-17-2008, 06:24 PM
A few more for you to check out.

DC Turismo
02-17-2008, 06:55 PM
I know there were low number silver/blue Shelby Chargers produced in 86 in addition to the a/c delete bracket garnett SC's in 87. Also, does someone have the exact production numbers on the Lancer Shelby's, as after seeing reaper's post. They are more rare than the Shelby Lancers if I'm not mistaken.


The long wheel based minis are kickarse, especially the engine work to yours Chuck! :thumb:

spyder
02-17-2008, 07:15 PM
I know there were low number silver/blue Shelby Chargers produced in 86 in addition to the a/c delete bracket garnett SC's in 87. Also, does someone have the exact production numbers on the Lancer Shelby's, as after seeing reaper's post. They are more rare than the Shelby Lancers if I'm not mistaken.


The long wheel based minis are kickarse, especially the engine work to yours Chuck! :thumb:

Lancer Shelby's

279 in '88

208 1n '89

Check the "Knowledge Center"

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/vbarticles.php?do=article&articleid=2

Xtrempickup
02-17-2008, 07:22 PM
dont forget the 501 Maserati Headed TC 5spd cars

DC Turismo
02-17-2008, 07:23 PM
Lancer Shelby's

279 in '88

208 1n '89

Check the "Knowledge Center"

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/vbarticles.php?do=article&articleid=2

Didn't know those were in there. Thanks.

DC Turismo
02-17-2008, 07:25 PM
dont forget the 501 Maserati Headed TC 5spd cars

What year and I'll add them to the original psot?


This thread will serve for addign more data to the Production Numbers part of the Knowledge center then in terms of further breakdowns and what not as I was unaware that part was already established in there.

Turbodave
02-17-2008, 07:28 PM
89 Dodge Shadow Competition Package (Option code ANA) 300 produced.

Xtrempickup
02-17-2008, 07:34 PM
there actually a break down of colors and everything total was 501 over 89-90, 1 last made in 91 there would be a page would of breakdown for colors and cali vs other us models, etc.

bradp
02-17-2008, 08:45 PM
what about the 89 CS AGS code daytonas? I found one a while back and I think my research showed it was 1 of 260 some cars... Stripped as could be with the go fast goodies!

also... kinda off topic but how can you tell if your 89 csx is a wide tire recaro car? Mine is a recaro, and came with 225/50's on it but I dont know if its factory.

What's the last 8 of your VIN and I'll tell you.

bradp
02-17-2008, 08:46 PM
Don't forget some of the 89 Lancer Shelby's were black.

2.216VTurbo
02-17-2008, 09:25 PM
what about Alan's red/black 87 GLHS. only one of its kind if i remember?

Sadly, not original. The dealer painted it before original sale so lets just call it "Dealer optioned red" to be accurate as possible.:)

Here's one for the list 87 Shelby Lancer leather/5spd Local guy has the data plaque and still knows the private yards where its rests totally stripped:(

glhs727
02-17-2008, 09:34 PM
How about 1988 CSX Prototype x9 "shelby Birthday car" 1 of 1. Not a production car but certainly of of the most documented prototypes and recognizable.

BadAssPerformance
02-17-2008, 09:38 PM
Sadly, not original. The dealer painted it before original sale so lets just call it "Dealer optioned red" to be accurate as possible.:)

Here's one for the list 87 Shelby Lancer leather/5spd Local guy has the data plaque and still knows the private yards where its rests totally stripped:(

Bummer... I forget, did anyone get pics of it?

85shelbycharger
02-17-2008, 10:40 PM
The '83 Scamp GT's have to rank up there in rarity :thumb:

OnLooker
02-17-2008, 10:45 PM
What about the Turbo Reliant wagons?

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/wagonweb.jpg

Mopar_Nutz
02-17-2008, 10:57 PM
The A/C delete garnett/silver '87 SC's...there were only 250 or so made like that? I remember reading that somewhere...

I guess I've inadvertently picked up some rare TM's in my time.

My 87 SC is non-A/C

I've got the 1 of 289 `89 Lancer Shelby (both options of auto trans and power sunroof)

And I hear the `92 2.5 Turbo Spirit ES is fairly uncommon as well (~400 built?).

Also I remember checking that my old Shelby Z was quite rare with it's options of T-tops, cloth and no A/C. 3 things I looked for when I bought it but were actually a VERY rare combo.

Reaper1
02-18-2008, 12:21 AM
I've had a '92 TI Spirit sitting in my yard for a while now...not mine...exGF, and she sold it. Fairly nice car...used to belong to a friend, then his dad.....

Mopar_Nutz
02-18-2008, 12:30 AM
Someone on Cardomain listed it at 360 92 T1 Spirit ES'.
Dunno if thats considered rare or not

DC Turismo
02-18-2008, 12:36 AM
Ian

I'd say that is a rare number if its accurate.

Has anyone else tried contacting Chrysler about certain production numbers? I tried getting a breakdown on 90 Daytona Shelbys a year or two ago and after being led through a phoneline maze I never heard anything back from them.

blk86trbo
02-18-2008, 11:37 AM
What about the Turbo Reliant wagons?

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/wagonweb.jpg

That is a neat wagon! I sorta remember the story behind these being produced...care to reiterate it and maybe how you ended up with yours?

spoolinhard
02-18-2008, 11:40 AM
I dont believe I have heard anyone mentions the TIII phantom R/T lebarons? Any info on them?

Turbodave
02-18-2008, 01:19 PM
I dont believe I have heard anyone mentions the TIII phantom R/T lebarons? Any info on them?

There is lots of Crazy stuff made only for the Mexican market, TII K-cars called Magnums, 2.5 Intercooled cars and other fun stuff. With as hard as it is to get US production data I imagine it would be a real challenge to get the data from Mexico.

BadAssPerformance
02-18-2008, 02:17 PM
What about the Turbo Reliant wagons?

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/wagonweb.jpg

hell yeah :thumb:

Bozo
02-18-2008, 04:05 PM
If anyone could tell me, I would love all the info on my car; '89 LeBaron GTC coupe, 5 speed, Pewter color, dark brown(?) int, leather, sunroof, factory am/fm cd, pw, pl, power driver's seat.

With that said, it doesn't have the original motor or transmission and the previous owner shod the rear with R/T discs.

Thanks!

Tony

Reaper1
02-18-2008, 06:45 PM
The '89 GTC should have had the 11" discs anyways....

I've seen a WOODY Turbo Reliant Wangon!!! That thing was COOL!!!!

OnLooker
02-18-2008, 07:00 PM
The '89 GTC should have had the 11" discs anyways....

I've seen a WOODY Turbo Reliant Wangon!!! That thing was COOL!!!!

Was it a Reliant or T&C ?

The few Reliant wagons are the ones with the hood like the one pictured. It is kinda like a vent on the GLH but a different size.

dodgeshadowchik
02-18-2008, 09:05 PM
How about 1988 CSX Prototype x9 "shelby Birthday car" 1 of 1. Not a production car but certainly of of the most documented prototypes and recognizable.


speaking of which.... do you have any pictures of said car?? :love:

What about bonzai blue 2-door v6 5-speed shadows? I had one heck of a time locating one of those! lol!

glhs727
02-18-2008, 10:08 PM
speaking of which.... do you have any pictures of said car?? :love:

What about bonzai blue 2-door v6 5-speed shadows? I had one heck of a time locating one of those! lol!

here is a recent picture

dodgeshadowchik
02-18-2008, 10:24 PM
Thank you!! :) Its looking nice!!

nBALLS
02-18-2008, 11:51 PM
Shelby vans???

I've seen the said pictures his brother in law has, in 2003 at Shelby for the little 20 year get together, he had them and was showing them off.

Crazy stuff, it was a full size Dodge Conversion van, with Shelby Decals, I think a different steering wheel, and some other specific Shelby stuff.


here is a recent picture

I have pictures of and know where the '89 prototype grille and '89 hood that came off of the b-day car are. http://smiliesftw.com/x/hsugh.gif

In fact, here are the pics.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars152.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/Cars153.jpg

GLHNSLHT2
02-19-2008, 12:26 AM
The BIRTHDAY CAR IS MISSING PIECES?!?!?!??!

Johnny
02-19-2008, 02:25 AM
Between 40 and 60 Turbo Reliant wagons were made in 1986.
The black one is beautiful.
Here is mine......
http://polybushings.com/images/kwagon.jpg

DC Turismo
02-19-2008, 02:28 AM
I never knew those Turbo Reliants came with hood grates like that. Very cool!

Reaper1
02-19-2008, 02:34 AM
I don't remember what the one I saw was. I DO remember that the "turbo" badges were tan in color just like what you would see on the turbo-vans when they were woody. I *think* it had two vents in the hood. This was a while ago, so it's all from fading memory...

As for the Electric Blue V6/5-speed 2-door Shadows...my aunt has one up in MD!! Very nice car...she loves that thing. Last time I saw it, it was unfortunatly starting to show typical hatch rust...but it *could* be fixed...I told her and my uncle that if they ever wanted to get rid of it to call me!!!

dodgeshadowchik
02-19-2008, 09:32 AM
Here's my blue shadow
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2541000-2541999/2541269_3_full.jpg

Probably the reason I had such a hard time finding one was because I needed a body with no rust on it. lol! This car's undercarriage is in excellent condition! It does have the paint peel starting on the roof, tho. I was kinda picky too... as it needed to be a factory 5 speed, too.

Sgt Craig
02-19-2008, 08:22 PM
How about a no option 1990 5spd Turbo mini.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb289/Cmartjr31/options.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb289/Cmartjr31/Standardequipment.jpg

BadAssPerformance
02-19-2008, 09:36 PM
^^^ Thats gotta be pretty damn rare! :thumb:

cordes
02-19-2008, 09:56 PM
How about a no option 1990 5spd Turbo mini.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb289/Cmartjr31/options.jpg[/IMG]

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb289/Cmartjr31/Standardequipment.jpg[/IMG]

That is my dream family ride! I am so jealous.

Reaper1
02-19-2008, 11:31 PM
Yeah, they didn't make many of those..

Sgt Craig
02-20-2008, 07:19 PM
^^^ Thats gotta be pretty damn rare! :thumb:


Good im bringing it to the naperville show in May,rust and all.LOL that or my truck again.

Sgt Craig
02-20-2008, 07:20 PM
That is my dream family ride! I am so jealous.

I didnt realize it didnt have a/c or any options until I got about half way home with it. Found the window sticker once I got it in the garage.

BadAssPerformance
02-20-2008, 07:25 PM
Good im bringing it to the naperville show in May,rust and all.LOL that or my truck again.

Thats cool... I've had my ghettoass Shadow there a couple times :thumb:

stereo
02-22-2008, 02:25 PM
I've seen the said pictures his brother in law has, in 2003 at Shelby for the little 20 year get together, he had them and was showing them off.

Crazy stuff, it was a full size Dodge Conversion van, with Shelby Decals, I think a different steering wheel, and some other specific Shelby stuff.

It should of had a csx steering wheel, with cs medalions on the front and the wheels, and a big cs logo on the spare tire cover, along with other decals. The best way to spot one is that they are white and have two blue stripes going down the middle like a viper. But from my understanding and what I heard, these were used by shelby's workers to go to different dealerships and take care of whatever business had to be done. If shelbymotorsports is on here maybe he can intale some better information. But it is a shelby vehicle.

Also what about the direct connection rampages. 130 some built I think. With the coveted rampage specific side ground effects.

Also the factory intercooled CSX-T's. Those are very rare. They were still T1, but I believe on those shelby spliced into the stock T1 harness and put in a charge temp. as well. I think these were also the only ones that got the shelby decal on the right side of the deck lid.

There was some lebaron that Alan showed me that was rare. He said it was the heaviest car. He'll have to tell you what it is, I can't remember.

My bro in laws 88' Lancer shelby was 1 of 8 that didn't get a sun roof or heated windows.

If I've heard correctly shelby made a motorcycle. I haven't seen pics or info, so I'm not to positive.

There were also the Lancer Pacificas and the Daytona Pacificas. Low production number like the Lancer Shelbys. They were both just T1 cars, But the lancer had the same body kit that the Lancer Shelby got. The lancers only came in white, but I'm not sure about the Daytonas. The only color I've seen was red.

If want to get technical with the rampage too, those had a lot of differen't interior options. I don't what options are rare than others, but there had to be a small some with certain colors and styles.

There were the 86 or 87 Shelby Chargers that got the blacked out Lemans wheels. Which look awesome by the way.

The shelby lancer that got the optioned cd players. along with any other early car that got one.

I'm not sure on this one, but did any of the 83' SC's come with the chrome valve cover and air intake from the factory and not bought and bolted on. If so that would be kinda rare.

I don't know if anyone else put these up, but the Iroc R/T daytonas. The factory produced ones and the race cars.

The CSX-T race cars. I think there were two of them.

The salt flats Lebaron. I don't know too much about it except that it had alot of crazy stuff on it.

There were a couple of 89' CSX's that didn't get the two center brake lights. These were used in all the photo shoots. So if you have a add or anything and you look, it won't have the brake light on the deck lid.

The SC rally cars.

The SC IHRA NHRA car.

I don't know if there were any cars that got these put on, but there are the 16 valve shelby valve covers. I do't know if any cars came from the factory or if there was a proto car with one put on.

The Shelby durangos are kinda rare. They are numbered cars.

I don't if the convertible dakotas are rare or not.

The real shelby vipers.

Iknow there's more, but I can't think of them right now.

sdac guy
02-22-2008, 04:53 PM
Here are some pics I was sent of a Shelby van. This one was crushed by a salvage yard. I have no idea how many of these were built, or by whom. This one was a 1989 model year.

Also, Angelo Taylor's "Matchbox" 1984 Horizon is one of 84 produced that year with the 110 hp H.O. motor.

Barry

mcsvt
02-22-2008, 04:55 PM
I really like that van! Nice piece of info there :thumb:

GLHS592
02-22-2008, 05:02 PM
There were the 86 or 87 Shelby Chargers that got the blacked out Lemans wheels. Which look awesome by the way.

Got any information or pictures on those? I've never heard of that before.

Reaper1
02-22-2008, 05:08 PM
Man, too bad the van was crushed...any info on why?

The Pacifica Daytona's were available in different colors. I've seen red, black, and white. They *may* have had blue ones too. I don't know about the Lancer Pacifica's.

I think some of the vehicles you've listed can't really be called TD's. The Durango and the Viper for sure(although I've seen both)

The salt flats 'Baron I don't think qualifies either...it was a completely modded, not an option or even a design study for public consumption like the other cars...

sdac guy
02-22-2008, 05:35 PM
Man, too bad the van was crushed...any info on why?

It had some mechanical problems but I can't recall what exactly (this was in 2005). Guy was looking for a buyer but none could be found so he took it to the salvage yard. It was the yard owner that called me and ended up sending the pics to me. He said something like, "If you know anyone that wants this thing, have them call me in the next 3 days. After that it is going to the crusher." It was in some little town in Missouri and he had already talked to the MW Shelby club and they were not interested, telling him it was a fake. I too thought it was probably a home brew item until I saw the pics. The dash plaque and the seats are really what convinced me. What other vehicle came with CS captains chairs??? You can't fake those, well not easily.


The salt flats 'Baron I don't think qualifies either...it was a completely modded, not an option or even a design study for public consumption like the other cars... Yep, as was mentioned previously I don't think any of the modified cars should be counted. And BTW, the CSX-T racers were not made from real CSX-T's, they were modified stock P-bodies.

Barry

DC Turismo
02-22-2008, 07:06 PM
Was anything saved from the van? :(

BadAssPerformance
02-22-2008, 07:09 PM
Here are some pics I was sent of a Shelby van. This one was crushed by a salvage yard. I have no idea how many of these were built, or by whom. This one was a 1989 model year.

Also, Angelo Taylor's "Matchbox" 1984 Horizon is one of 84 produced that year with the 110 hp H.O. motor.

Barry

That van is pimpin' :thumb:

Dont forget the 1 of 2 Cuda

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15236

http://cgwrr.com/Mopar/85cuda3.jpg

bradp
02-22-2008, 07:50 PM
I like that car, but I think the stripe would look better flat black

87glhs232
02-22-2008, 08:43 PM
I like that car, but I think the stripe would look better flat black

+ one!

contraption22
02-22-2008, 11:29 PM
Anybody mention the rarest of the numbered turbo Mopars? 2005 Commemorative Edition SRT-4's. Numbered 001-200. I'm sure there are a few less than that by now.

rich tideswell
02-27-2008, 12:35 AM
Anybody mention the rarest of the numbered turbo Mopars? 2005 Commemorative Edition SRT-4's. Numbered 001-200. I'm sure there are a few less than that by now.

See my orginal post, #25. complete SRT-4 break down, years, colors, ACR's by color and options.

Don't leave out GT Cruisers.

85shelbycharger
02-28-2008, 03:11 PM
What about the T1/5 spd 1992/1993 IROC Daytonas? Not many of those made if I remember correctly. Plus there is definitely one less in the world because I picked one apart in the junkyard last year :p

blk86trbo
02-28-2008, 04:11 PM
What about the T1/5 spd 1992/1993 IROC Daytonas? Not many of those made if I remember correctly. Plus there is definitely one less in the world because I picked one apart in the junkyard last year :p

1992 was the first year of the 4th generation Daytona and the last year for the 2.5 TI engine. Only 230 IROC's were optioned in 1992 with the 2.5 TI, that includes both transmissions. Honestly I'm not sure if any other model Daytona could have been ordered with the TI that year. If you wanted a turbo Daytona in 1993 your only option was the TIII.

85shelbycharger
02-28-2008, 05:48 PM
1992 was the first year of the 4th generation Daytona and the last year for the 2.5 TI engine. Only 230 IROC's were optioned in 1992 with the 2.5 TI, that includes both transmissions. Honestly I'm not sure if any other model Daytona could have been ordered with the TI that year. If you wanted a turbo Daytona in 1993 your only option was the TIII.

I didn't know that! Thanks for the info!

nBALLS
02-28-2008, 11:24 PM
1992 was the first year of the 4th generation Daytona and the last year for the 2.5 TI engine. Only 230 IROC's were optioned in 1992 with the 2.5 TI, that includes both transmissions. Honestly I'm not sure if any other model Daytona could have been ordered with the TI that year. If you wanted a turbo Daytona in 1993 your only option was the TIII.

Don't forget that some of the '92 2.5TI IROCs had Shelby Decals:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/DSC01596.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/DSC01598.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/DSC01597.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/DSC01593.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/DSC01592.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/DSC01595.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/DSC01594.jpg

2.216VTurbo
02-29-2008, 12:00 AM
Ha, pull a part parking lot:clap: WAAAY cleaner than any of ours...

blk86trbo
02-29-2008, 12:05 AM
Don't forget that some of the '92 2.5TI IROCs had Shelby Decals:

Forgive the dust, was just pulled out of hibernation

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/92iroc004-Copy.jpg

nBALLS
02-29-2008, 12:56 AM
Ha, pull a part parking lot:clap: WAAAY cleaner than any of ours...

:D


Forgive the dust, was just pulled out of hibernation


:lol: I didn't read your sig. :thumb:

cleven
02-29-2008, 10:42 AM
I got the only Turbo Hatch Labaron In benton harbor :lol:

NeonShowCar
02-29-2008, 01:46 PM
Just and FYI, I once had documentation (when I worked at Chrysler) that showed there were a total of 243 built of the 1992 Dodge Daytona IROC R/T. I can't remember the exact number for the other years.

badandy
02-29-2008, 02:00 PM
It had some mechanical problems but I can't recall what exactly (this was in 2005). Guy was looking for a buyer but none could be found so he took it to the salvage yard. It was the yard owner that called me and ended up sending the pics to me. He said something like, "If you know anyone that wants this thing, have them call me in the next 3 days. After that it is going to the crusher." It was in some little town in Missouri and he had already talked to the MW Shelby club and they were not interested, telling him it was a fake. I too thought it was probably a home brew item until I saw the pics. The dash plaque and the seats are really what convinced me. What other vehicle came with CS captains chairs??? You can't fake those, well not easily.

Yep, as was mentioned previously I don't think any of the modified cars should be counted. And BTW, the CSX-T racers were not made from real CSX-T's, they were modified stock P-bodies.

Barry

Funny...I see the disclaimer now:

"No CSX-T's were harmed in this race" :p

stereo
02-29-2008, 04:07 PM
Here are some pics I was sent of a Shelby van. This one was crushed by a salvage yard. I have no idea how many of these were built, or by whom. This one was a 1989 model year.

Also, Angelo Taylor's "Matchbox" 1984 Horizon is one of 84 produced that year with the 110 hp H.O. motor.

Barry

I think the one my bro in law found was number 80. I have a feeling that a bunch of them were exterminated before the auction. That's why no one knows about them. Was that the first year they fuel inj. those vans too, or was that earlier.

I forgot about the very, very low number of 87' CSX's that got the T slapped on and given to Thrifty.

The Pope
02-29-2008, 07:42 PM
Between 40 and 60 Turbo Reliant wagons were made in 1986.
The black one is beautiful.
Here is mine......
http://polybushings.com/images/kwagon.jpg

http://www.pnw-sdac.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2699

That I know of there is only 3 of these left. But the turbo Reliants are a fun car. I also have the DC Rampage with 15" wheel call out on the door, 218 of these?

OnLooker
02-29-2008, 08:12 PM
http://www.pnw-sdac.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2699

That I know of there is only 3 of these left. But the turbo Reliants are a fun car. I also have the DC Rampage with 15" wheel call out on the door, 218 of these?

I believe turbo dave knows of another one around but it is all rusted. I hope to have mine at sdac this summer.

Turbodave
02-29-2008, 08:39 PM
I believe turbo dave knows of another one around but it is all rusted. I hope to have mine at sdac this summer.

There is a guy named Skip near Omaha that has a turbo reliant (ex FBI car). I haven't seen the car in person ever, his brother has a nice 87 GLHS, and I think I've seen him on here before, he was at SDAC-16. Skip also had a turbo Daytona, Spirit ES and (this is how he described it, hold on....) an old roadrunner with a fin on the back. He says the roadrunner was pretty aerodynamic and got good mpg on the highway with the pointy nose. (it's not for sale...)

Blue Iroc R/T
03-01-2008, 12:22 AM
Here's the production figures for the 1992 Daytona IROC:

1992 DODGE DAYTONA IROC

1667 TOTAL PRODUCED
230 2.5L TURBO - 148 MANUAL & 82 AUTOMATIC
1437 3.0L V-6 - 609 MANUAL & 828 AUTOMATIC

230 TURBO - 36 BLUE, 93 RED, 54 WHITE, 47 BLACK
1437 V-6 - 276 BLUE, 545 RED, 359 WHITE, 257 BLACK

1992 Daytona IROC SHELBY:
230 TURBO
36 BLUE - 23 MANUAL & 13 AUTOMATIC* (* #'S ARE APPROX. BASED ON PERCENTAGES)
93 RED - 60 MANUAL & 33 AUTOMATIC*
54 WHITE - 35 MANUAL & 19 AUTOMATIC*
47 BLACK - 30 MANUAL & 17 AUTOMATIC*

1437 V-6
276 BLUE - 117 MANUAL & 159 AUTOMATIC*
545 RED - 231 MANUAL & 314 AUTOMATIC*
359 WHITE - 152 MANUAL & 207 AUTOMATIC*
257 BLACK - 109 MANUAL & 148 AUTOMATIC*
__________________________________________________ _______________

Production Numbers for 92 LeBaron GTC's with the 2.5 Turbo:
Convertible;
A568, 5 Speed = 235
A413, Automatic = 227
Total 92 GTC Convertible's = 462
Coupe;
A568, 5 Speed = 25
A413, Automatic = 56
Total 92 GTC Coupes = 81
Total 92 LeBaron GTC's with the 2.5 Turbo = 543

blk86trbo
03-01-2008, 06:48 AM
Here's the production figures for the 1992 Daytona IROC:

1992 DODGE DAYTONA IROC

1667 TOTAL PRODUCED
230 2.5L TURBO - 148 MANUAL & 82 AUTOMATIC
1437 3.0L V-6 - 609 MANUAL & 828 AUTOMATIC

230 TURBO - 36 BLUE, 93 RED, 54 WHITE, 47 BLACK
1437 V-6 - 276 BLUE, 545 RED, 359 WHITE, 257 BLACK

1992 Daytona IROC SHELBY:
230 TURBO
36 BLUE - 23 MANUAL & 13 AUTOMATIC* (* #'S ARE APPROX. BASED ON PERCENTAGES)
93 RED - 60 MANUAL & 33 AUTOMATIC*
54 WHITE - 35 MANUAL & 19 AUTOMATIC*
47 BLACK - 30 MANUAL & 17 AUTOMATIC*

1437 V-6
276 BLUE - 117 MANUAL & 159 AUTOMATIC*
545 RED - 231 MANUAL & 314 AUTOMATIC*
359 WHITE - 152 MANUAL & 207 AUTOMATIC*
257 BLACK - 109 MANUAL & 148 AUTOMATIC*
__________________________________________________ _______________

Production Numbers for 92 LeBaron GTC's with the 2.5 Turbo:
Convertible;
A568, 5 Speed = 235
A413, Automatic = 227
Total 92 GTC Convertible's = 462
Coupe;
A568, 5 Speed = 25
A413, Automatic = 56
Total 92 GTC Coupes = 81
Total 92 LeBaron GTC's with the 2.5 Turbo = 543

Thanks for those numbers Ralph!

DC Turismo
03-01-2008, 02:52 PM
HAHAHA And to think we found a red 92 Iroc Shelby in the junkyard. It was a 5 speed and turns out to be 1 of 60 prior to breakdown of options, hahaha. May as well laugh about it because we pursued the car for six years and then just coincidentally found it in the junkyard the one day :(

boneyardracing
03-01-2008, 08:26 PM
As far I as can work out my charger is very rare
2.2 H.O. with "heavy duty sport" shelby/GLH suspension and brakes
I cant find any mention of this being an option but the build sheet says thats what it is

blk86trbo
03-01-2008, 09:07 PM
HAHAHA And to think we found a red 92 Iroc Shelby in the junkyard. It was a 5 speed and turns out to be 1 of 60 prior to breakdown of options, hahaha. May as well laugh about it because we pursued the car for six years and then just coincidentally found it in the junkyard the one day :(

Red Shelby IROC at a junkyard???


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/masimatt/Turbo%20Mopars/DSC01593.jpg

spyder
03-01-2008, 09:24 PM
I know it's a little off topic , but still a rare FWD Mopar .
Does anyone know the scoop on these ?? Production car , dealer pkg., prototype ???

DC Turismo
03-02-2008, 12:09 AM
Red Shelby IROC at a junkyard???

Yep, parted and crushed now... It was a dark gray cloth, a568, T1 Iroc with matching Shelby decals on the hood and back bumper. Also had a sunroof and manual windows.

nBALLS
03-02-2008, 10:14 PM
Red Shelby IROC at a junkyard???

I forgot to mention, the one I ostsed pics of was an Auto. :)

sy2206
03-02-2008, 10:42 PM
2004 SRT-4 Total Production
Black = 2696
Bright Silver Metallic = 2039
Flame Red = 2050
Electric Blue = 2421; replaced solar yellow
Solar Yellow = 124; 7 had sunroofs. Officially not available as an option

There was a dicussion somewhere on the SRTforums about the yellow 04 SRT4's. As you stated(and you are correct), there were 7 yellow 04's with sunroofs. 6 of those had the viper seats, 1 had the side-airbag seats. Thats the rarest SRT4 produced, yellow 04 with a sunroof and side-airbag seats, 1 of 1.

4 l-bodies
03-02-2008, 11:47 PM
All this talk about rare and low production vehicles makes me sort of laugh and reminisce. It's one thing to be low production and rare, and it can be quite another thing for it to be desirable. Many times, it's rare because no one in there right mind would order such a goofy combination of options! Other times it was just cost prohibitive. I won't comment on the breakdown of individual options on cars, except to say some people have too much time on their hands. Reminds me of the bumper guards on the 4 dr. l-bodies. Rare option. Desirable? I know I wouldn't want them.

Someone earlier mentioned that 1991 1 of 1 16V Masi TC. The last (#501) of the 16V TC's. That was a white with burgundy interior car. Ah, no thanks, I'll pass.

I remember seeing a long, long time ago a sand pebble beige 70 T/A challenger. It also sported a simulated brown snake or eelskin style vinyl top. It might have even been a brown plaid vinyl top. Wow! That was one ugly T/A challenger. Not quite a ugly as those late 80's gray GT Mustang's with the look of clearcoated primer. My point? Rare. Heck yeah. Desirable or valuable. Not! Hideous? Absolutely.

I store my cars during the winter at a place that has some of the biggest buck Hemi, 440, E body and winged cars in the country. The owner keeps telling me that the least desirable color for Hemi anything is brown. He states, no matter how nice the car is, it is worth far less than than any desirable colored cars. NO MATTER THE OPTIONS! It has gotten to the point that he won't buy a brown Mopar muscle car, because he can't get rid of it.

Back in the late 70's and early 80's, every time I found a good deal on a muscle car, it was green. 70 GTO Judge, 69 RS Z28, 70 SS Monte Carlo. All green. That is sort of a standing joke with me and some of my friends. Fast forward 15-20 years and now I'm looking for a Polo green with saddle ZR1. Go figure.
Todd

Turbodave
03-02-2008, 11:53 PM
Reminds me of the bumper guards on the 4 dr. l-bodies. Rare option. Desirable? I know I wouldn't want them.


:lol: My 85 had them, and the extra strip of door protection that came with that package. When the car got re-done I left all that off, because I didn't care for the looks of it.

And your right on the money with the green cars, they seemed to have been the only ones that survived. For a while there I though mopar must have used metallic green primer on their cars, cause everything I came across had green under the pant job...

glhs231
03-04-2008, 11:30 PM
Skip is my cousin. He's had that "roadrunner" since the late 70's from what I can remember.I know after high school(77) we used to cruise in it. I had a 69 charger R/T, 65 satellite 426 street wedge, 69 formula S fastback, 71 sport fury gt, 69 gtx air grabber hood, even a 68 396 chevelle convertible and a 65 satellite convertible. Got rid of them all and at least he kept the "roadrunner".I can't remember the last time it was running. Must be 15-20 years. I did keep the GLHS though. Bought it new in Dec '86 and just kept it. Mine gets pretty good mpg too compared to the other cars I had. Wish I still had all of them though. I had a great time at sdac 16. I wish the other shows were closer to Omaha but you have to go where the numbers are. Later, Steve

87glhs232
03-04-2008, 11:55 PM
Skip is my cousin. He's had that "roadrunner" since the late 70's from what I can remember.I know after high school(77) we used to cruise in it. I had a 69 charger R/T, 65 satellite 426 street wedge, 69 formula S fastback, 71 sport fury gt, 69 gtx air grabber hood, even a 68 396 chevelle convertible and a 65 satellite convertible. Got rid of them all and at least he kept the "roadrunner".I can't remember the last time it was running. Must be 15-20 years. I did keep the GLHS though. Bought it new in Dec '86 and just kept it. Mine gets pretty good mpg too compared to the other cars I had. Wish I still had all of them though. I had a great time at sdac 16. I wish the other shows were closer to Omaha but you have to go where the numbers are. Later, Steve

Oooo...Oooo! I know what's rare! Consecutively numbered '87 'S cars in my driveway! :D Hi Steve!:)

Bardo
03-05-2008, 12:11 AM
can anyone get me a break down on the 91 spirit r/t's? i know there was 774 red and 448(i think) no abs but how many red came w/o abs??

glhs231
03-05-2008, 11:49 AM
Oooo...Oooo! I know what's rare! Consecutively numbered '87 'S cars in my driveway! :D Hi Steve!:)

Or mine! Whazup Josh.

Johnny
03-05-2008, 02:32 PM
Rarest Turbo Shelby Dodge ever made is this one.
And I went to see it last week.

http://polybushings.com/pages/AC3000ME.html

Here is a little of the history of the car.
http://polybushings.com/pages/AC3000MEtext.html

Johnny
PolyBushings.com

87glhs232
03-05-2008, 02:34 PM
Or mine! Whazup Josh.
Same 'ole schtick. Just thought I'd give ya a jab! ;)

Marcus86GLHS
03-05-2008, 02:55 PM
"...........It's one thing to be low production and rare, and it can be quite another thing for it to be desirable. Many times, it's rare because no one in there right mind would order such a goofy combination of options! .............."


very............correction: extremely well said sir. this is a fantastic thread for interesting history and for raw data crunching, but........... "rare" has now almost morphed into an adjective that does not mean a whole lot.

since every 1987 glhs got a unique one-of-a-kind dash plaque, cant we also acurately say each one of those cars are "one-of-one"? and therefore the elite of the ultra-rare?

:-)

inmyshadow
03-05-2008, 03:05 PM
If you think that was bad. Try pulling the drivetrain from a blue 92 IROC Shelby Daytona 2.5TI 5spd then.

I've been using that A568 since 2000. The motor was sold to somebody in NY. Cliff R has/had the computer/harness.

I'd love to see a numbers break down on 91/92 turbo Shadow convertibles with 5spds. Its rumored that there are less then 500 white ones.

later




HAHAHA And to think we found a red 92 Iroc Shelby in the junkyard. It was a 5 speed and turns out to be 1 of 60 prior to breakdown of options, hahaha. May as well laugh about it because we pursued the car for six years and then just coincidentally found it in the junkyard the one day :(

ShelGame
03-05-2008, 03:22 PM
Anyone know how many '89 2-door Aries got the 2.5 T1 from the factory? I've never heard of or seen one, but it's in the NHRA classification guide...

Oh, and I had a '92 C1 Pilot 2.5 T1 Daytona IROC Shelby. How rare is that? It's in Cleveland last I knew.

I didn't realize the '91 Daytona Shelby was so rare in white. Had one of those, too. Pretty well optioned, though not with leather interior.

The car pictured below is one of the ~260 '89 C/S AGS cars. Now converted to 2.5 T1 Auto (don't worry purists, I still have the original block and all the T2 parts...).

Sweet! All of my Daytona's have been rare. Should've kept them all!

My Spirit R/T is rare, too!

Blue Iroc R/T
03-05-2008, 03:31 PM
Rarest Turbo Shelby Dodge ever made is this one.
And I went to see it last week.

http://polybushings.com/pages/AC3000ME.html

Here is a little of the history of the car.
http://polybushings.com/pages/AC3000MEtext.html

Johnny
PolyBushings.com

Very interesting, Johnny! Thanks for sharing. :thumb:

ScottD
03-05-2008, 04:23 PM
I have *some* production #s listed here on the SDACNCC site (link below).

I am always looking for more, send me what you have and I'll post it!

blk86trbo
03-05-2008, 04:39 PM
Here's my blue shadow. Probably the reason I had such a hard time finding one was because I needed a body with no rust on it. lol! This car's undercarriage is in excellent condition! It does have the paint peel starting on the roof, tho. I was kinda picky too... as it needed to be a factory 5 speed, too.

Nice color, any more pictures of it? I've only seen one other blue Shadow and I'm pretty sure it went to the yard because the engine was tore apart and the car had been sitting. Here's a few pics of mine...anyone sure of the production numbers for the 91/92 turbo convertible Shadows?

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/P1010400.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/P1010396a.jpg

BadAssPerformance
03-05-2008, 05:16 PM
Very interesting, Johnny! Thanks for sharing. :thumb:

+1 neat info Johnny! :thumb:

skitzo_inc
03-05-2008, 09:19 PM
How rare now-a-days are the 1985 Chargers? I have yet to see another one on the road or for sale anywhere near where I live. I see a lot of Turbo daytona's, mostly rusted out to pieces, and I know a guy who has four to junk near York NE, but don't ever see Shelby Chargers anywhere. I know how many were made, but how many do you think have survived?

Blue Iroc R/T
03-05-2008, 11:03 PM
How rare is a 91 Shadow ES - 4 Door - Turbo Auto in Electric Blue?

Before and after pics. Flamed out at 32000 miles. Fire dept. said electrical short in main harness. With what I know NOW about them, I's say, fuel line leaked.
It WAS a beautiful car! :(

DC Turismo
03-05-2008, 11:55 PM
I'd pimp that 4 door! hahaha It's the bomb!

ke6960
03-08-2008, 09:15 AM
here are the production numbers for 89 lebarons i got them from a guy on one of these forums i guess he got them from chrysler....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ke69420/2317865309/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ke69420/2318673130/

HoverFish
03-08-2008, 11:56 AM
here are the production numbers for 89 lebarons i got them from a guy on one of these forums i guess he got them from chrysler....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ke69420/2317865309/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ke69420/2318673130/

According to those production numbers, my donor car is 1 of 501 2.5T1 5spd convertibles. Unless I'm reading them incorrectly.

And here we are on engine / tranny pulling day, for a short time when it wasn't pouring rain.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Oklawolf/Cars/Bucks%20Saskatoon%209-29-07/Dscn3354.jpg

Not quite sure what I was looking at in this photo though. I also have the doors, quarter glass and several trim pieces off this car.

ScottD
03-08-2008, 01:45 PM
Do you mind if I post these on my web site?


here are the production numbers for 89 lebarons i got them from a guy on one of these forums i guess he got them from chrysler....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ke69420/2317865309/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ke69420/2318673130/

Bozo
03-08-2008, 03:37 PM
here are the production numbers for 89 lebarons i got them from a guy on one of these forums i guess he got them from chrysler....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ke69420/2317865309/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ke69420/2318673130/

Thanks for finding and posting this!! It will help me with my car!

Thanks again!!!! :clap:

SpiritedShelbys
03-08-2008, 03:53 PM
WOW finally.. I had posted a few years ago about a Shelby van conversion. There is one here locally that I have never been able to track down and take photos of but see in passing. It is EXACTLY like the one in Barry's photos. That thing threw me for a loop.

Bardo
03-08-2008, 04:08 PM
hey whats going on with the csx #087? i cant find the thread about it anymore?

Captain Chaos
03-08-2008, 04:09 PM
How rare is a 91 Shadow ES - 4 Door - Turbo Auto in Electric Blue?

Before and after pics. Flamed out at 32000 miles. Fire dept. said electrical short in main harness. With what I know NOW about them, I's say, fuel line leaked.
It WAS a beautiful car! :(

WOW! That fourth pic, how old is it. Almost all the cars say it was early-mid 80's, obviously not because of the year of the Shadow.

jonnyb
03-08-2008, 04:41 PM
Nice color, any more pictures of it? I've only seen one other blue Shadow and I'm pretty sure it went to the yard because the engine was tore apart and the car had been sitting. Here's a few pics of mine...anyone sure of the production numbers for the 91/92 turbo convertible Shadows?


I've have read that just over 1900 Shadow turbo convertibles were made in 1991. I've seen the numbers 1938 and 1973 mentioned, but have never confirmed those numbers myself. I have also read that only about 20-25% of them came with 5 speeds, so that means there were less than 500 5 spd turbo convertibles built.

I have an electric blue 91 5spd turbo convertible. I've always wanted to find breakdowns of options by color and engine/tranny combo's, but unfortunately I just never get around to doing it.

Jon

DC Turismo
03-08-2008, 05:17 PM
AJ

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23115&page=2


That car definitely is rare that's for sure!

dodgeshadowchik
03-08-2008, 05:28 PM
Thanks for sharing the e-blue shadows! The bas thing about the blue cars is they seem to suffer from the paint peeling more than some other colors. Even though I think it affected any color, it seems I see more blue ones badly affected. I do have more pics of my blue car. Its an eye sore right now with the paint peel and smashed windsheld; but that will change and hopefully look something like my signature photoshop 'toon eventually. (Minus the CF hood, as no one makes one for shadows! lol)

I also looooove the e-blue daytona IROC R/T's. Too bad those are so rare, I'd love to have one!

ke6960
03-11-2008, 12:32 PM
here are the production numbers for 89 lebarons i got them from a guy on one of these forums i guess he got them from chrysler....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ke69420/2317865309/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ke69420/2318673130/




btw does any one know how to read these if my car is a t2 gtc convertable is it one of 198 or 1 of 31??

Blue Iroc R/T
03-11-2008, 06:40 PM
WOW! That fourth pic, how old is it. Almost all the cars say it was early-mid 80's, obviously not because of the year of the Shadow.

Pictures were taken in 1997. The car only had 32K miles on it. IF I would have known then what I know now about these cars, I would have bought it back off the Insurance Co. :o

spyder
03-11-2008, 09:59 PM
btw does any one know how to read these if my car is a t2 gtc convertable is it one of 198 or 1 of 31??

EDR is the code for Turbo II engine , 906 total produced in Convertible .

Turbo_Rampage
03-11-2008, 11:04 PM
I had a Black/Silver 86' Shelby Charger that was a factory A/C delete and no sunroof car, but it ended up being a donar car, so it makes it even more rare for someone else that has one, :D







It was not fixable, so i used the parts off of it to make my Rampage... i still have the option tag and vin wrote down somewhere.

ke6960
03-12-2008, 07:13 AM
EDR is the code for Turbo II engine , 906 total produced in Convertible .

but its a gtc... the 2nd page says that gtc was only produced in highline not in premium so if you look at the 1st page there are 2 production numbers that are only in highline and not in premium.... 198 and 31

spyder
03-12-2008, 06:11 PM
but its a gtc... the 2nd page says that gtc was only produced in highline not in premium so if you look at the 1st page there are 2 production numbers that are only in highline and not in premium.... 198 and 31

Actually there are 3 production numbers listed for the 2.2 .

677 - Federal
198 - California
31-High Altitude

To simplify , look at the bottom of page 1 , the ENG/TRANS Summary .

EDR - 2.2 Turbo , 906 produced . Notice this number coincides with the 906 cars built with DDT-Getrag transmission .

skitzo_inc
03-12-2008, 06:36 PM
Is there a breakdown of what Chargers were made? All the years, but in particular, the 1985 SC. Mine has the sun/sound/shade package, garnet red, silver stripe, factory AC. I just wanna know how many were made that year with those options.

Thanks!

neongary
04-04-2008, 09:31 PM
Here's a couple that I own:

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/518/medium/GTCVNTData.jpg

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/518/medium/BlackShelbyData.jpg

Sure makes me wish I kept my '88 Shelby Z. I sold it in 1993. It was black, Sun-Sound-Shade package and had an airbag. Bought new when I was stationed in Germany and had shipped back to Tacoma, WA. Seems to be a rare beast! I wonder who has it now? Did a few things to it, cat back exhaust, Mopar alarm and Monroe Formula GP struts/shocks.

Polygon
04-05-2008, 12:05 AM
btw does any one know how to read these if my car is a t2 gtc convertable is it one of 198 or 1 of 31??

I'll bet you got those from me. Anyhow, spyder is correct. If you know your emissions then you can brake it down from there. I would love to know how some of you are breaking down by paint and options. Chrysler Historical told me that they don't have that information beyond emissions. That makes my car 1 of 63 as far as I know.

spyder
04-05-2008, 12:45 AM
I'll bet you got those from me. Anyhow, spyder is correct. If you know your emissions then you can brake it down from there. I would love to know how some of you are breaking down by paint and options. Chrysler Historical told me that they don't have that information beyond emissions. That makes my car 1 of 63 as far as I know.

Option & Accessory Reports generally include option , paint & interior breakdowns . I'm assuming the Lebaron report is missing several pages .
Unfortunately , Chrysler Hysterical doesn't seem interested in helping people out ....

Polygon
04-05-2008, 01:08 AM
Option & Accessory Reports generally include option , paint & interior breakdowns . I'm assuming the Lebaron report is missing several pages .
Unfortunately , Chrysler Hysterical doesn't seem interested in helping people out ....

Grrr, it has a bunch of pages sadly, they left that one out. :(

TurboSedan
04-05-2008, 04:54 AM
not sure if this was already listed, but there were 906 '89 Lebaron GTS produced. 268 of them got the Turbo-II/A555, the remaining 638 got the 2.5 Turbo-I/A413.

-------------------------------------------
Joshua Mitchell
'91 Dodge SPiRiT R/T
'98 Buick Regal GS

glhs142
04-05-2008, 09:25 AM
where would someone find the Option & Accessory Reports?

Polygon
04-05-2008, 12:15 PM
where would someone find the Option & Accessory Reports?

Chrysler Historical, that's if they have it or care to give it to you.

Tony Fields
04-17-2008, 11:08 PM
Sure makes me wish I kept my '88 Shelby Z. I sold it in 1993. It was black, Sun-Sound-Shade package and had an airbag. Bought new when I was stationed in Germany and had shipped back to Tacoma, WA. Seems to be a rare beast! I wonder who has it now? Did a few things to it, cat back exhaust, Mopar alarm and Monroe Formula GP struts/shocks.


Sounds like a twin to my Black '88 if it had charcoal leather. Bought this one
Sept. 11, 2002.....I got it from the first owner. Has the window sticker
that was never mounted on the window and the bill of lading plus
all of the paper work that came in the glove box. Picked it up for $500.00

Had to put in new axles, struts, shocks and rack & pinion. It had 194,000
miles on it. Now has over 200,000. Never had the head off...turbo is
tight...no wobble and it doesnt have any knocks nor does it smoke
or use oil. Just needs some new paint!


BTW thank you for your service in the Military

neongary
04-20-2008, 11:06 PM
Sounds like a twin to my Black '88 if it had charcoal leather. Bought this one
Sept. 11, 2002.....I got it from the first owner. Has the window sticker
that was never mounted on the window and the bill of lading plus
all of the paper work that came in the glove box. Picked it up for $500.00

Had to put in new axles, struts, shocks and rack & pinion. It had 194,000
miles on it. Now has over 200,000. Never had the head off...turbo is
tight...no wobble and it doesnt have any knocks nor does it smoke
or use oil. Just needs some new paint!


BTW thank you for your service in the Military

No leather, had the standard cloth seats. (Don't like leather, too much like vinyl)
Glad to serve, mostly enjoyable, tough at times. 20+ years!:thumb:

kuzman83
04-28-2008, 10:10 PM
how about the 5 or so shelby lancers that were supposedly shipped out with an auto and cloth? I also read somewhere that a few SL's may have snuck out with cruise control or the upper hatch spoiler, but I dont have any numbers.

glht_omni
09-02-2008, 03:13 PM
Man, too bad the van was crushed...any info on why?

The Pacifica Daytona's were available in different colors. I've seen red, black, and white. They *may* have had blue ones too. I don't know about the Lancer Pacifica's.

i know of a light blue pacifica daytona t1 in a yard, its not all that bad of shape and could be bought for $500

glht_omni
09-02-2008, 03:22 PM
I know Franks Daytona is rare. The 1991 Daytona Shelby was only produced 1/2 year...of those I was never able to obtain production numbers...but I do know I have seen very few 1991 White/White Pumpers (was)...and even fewer with black leather interior completely loaded with factory sunroof and all the bells and whistles.

i missed out on a 91 shelby daytona a few years ago, white with white pumpers, 5 speed, black leather interior, looked very near mint and i walked in too late to hear "going twice, sold $600":mad:

Reaper1
09-02-2008, 10:38 PM
While those cars are an interesting anomoly, they are really nothing more than a sticker package that can easily be reproduced. They're cool, but to me...eh....*shrugs*

glht_omni
09-02-2008, 11:25 PM
well the pacificas have the unique ground effects as part of the pacifica package.

black86glhs
09-03-2008, 01:04 AM
My GLHS. Only NE Ohio car that isn't a ball of rust!!!!

Seriously, what about the TC's with the T-II engine(or whichever one it is), not the Masihead engine?

Shadow
09-03-2008, 10:11 AM
What about the factory Hi-po cars that were "done up" for special executive privlage and were slated for destruction after use, never to be sold to the general public. I know a # of those cars slipped through the cracks and are still around today.

thrashercharged
09-04-2008, 09:58 PM
>What about the factory Hi-po cars that were "done up" for special executive >privlage and were slated for destruction after use, never to be sold to the >general public. I know a # of those cars slipped through the cracks and are >still around today.

I think Shawn's 1 of 4 Lebaron Indy Pace Cars would have to qualify then!

I also happen to have a 1 of 25 car according to Ralph Scott's post from earlier this year with my 1992 A568 GTC coupe:

Production Numbers for 92 LeBaron GTC's with the 2.5 Turbo:
Convertible;
A568, 5 Speed = 235
A413, Automatic = 227
Total 92 GTC Convertible's = 462
Coupe;
A568, 5 Speed = 25
A413, Automatic = 56
Total 92 GTC Coupes = 81
Total 92 LeBaron GTC's with the 2.5 Turbo = 543
__________________
Ralph Scott

CS2GO
09-04-2008, 11:05 PM
I remember driving around in a 1985 Chrysler "e-class" (4-door) with a turbo 1 engine and a digital dash and the voice command LOL!!. This was available in Canada. It was basically a Dodge Caravelle in the USA. Not sure if they were just an export Canadian car or not. It was a cheaper version of the New Yorker at the time.

Dan

rosie
09-09-2008, 07:57 PM
I don't have the numbers but I just bought and showed at the SDAC so cal monthly meeting an all original ( for a month or two unless it gets 40 mpg.... oops distracted )
83 plymouth scamp GT. I've heard 1000 to 1200 made. Now as far as still around I know I can keep up with the rare'est of em'

Rosie
San Diego
83 Scamp GT
86 GLHt
87 Shelby Lancer

2.216VTurbo
09-09-2008, 08:28 PM
I don't have the numbers but I just bought and showed at the SDAC so cal monthly meeting an all original ( for a month or two unless it gets 40 mpg.... oops distracted )
83 plymouth scamp GT. I've heard 1000 to 1200 made. Now as far as still around I know I can keep up with the rare'est of em'

Rosie
San Diego
83 Scamp GT
86 GLHt
87 Shelby Lancer

That's CaSDAC Ae3Rosenquist;), good to see you again after a few years and nice to have you here too:clap: I'll bring my Rampage to next month's meeting and you can see a REAL rare 'Page:p

rosie
09-12-2008, 02:24 AM
Was that a random typo or does your encyclopedia brain remember I was an AE3? Don't worry, my SCAMP will never be a REAL rampage. Just a bad --- Scamp. :)

Just to stay on topic (I'll PM you allen) any production numbers on the Scamp GT? Roughly (based on fact) how many? Don't need a total break down because like I said, with as many cars I find in the yard... That's ONE yard in ONE city, there CAN'T be that many obscure left.

I just wish that I had gotten all 5 of the shelby lancer vin#'s so they could be put to rest. They were stripped by someone and I never got wind of who (not many of us near the border) but those numbers are in someone's hands.

That's not even counting the turbo long wheel base mini's the 92 GTC's (got the k frame for my Shelby Z from one of them) the 83 chargers W the shelby seats and a carborated engine... Terrible man I tell ya.

Rosie

WickedShelby88
09-13-2008, 10:54 AM
The mention of the white monochromatic shelby tona reminds me of the guy that lived off of new road in Greenfield,IN and had a white on white one and also had a blue one. Both were nice but always sat outside. I'm sure Nate might remember the place. Wonder what happened to the white one was probably a 91.

racer-xerols
09-16-2008, 07:39 AM
My 91 Daytona CS/AGS is one of 150 AGS cars, one of 26 white with white pumpers and one of 16 with bordeaux (maroon) cloth interior. Original owner and 74k miles, too :) ScottD has the 91 Daytona numbers on his website (post is above in this thread, a couple pages back). He got 'em from me, and actually scanned them in so he can find his...my original copies are....somewhere :)

rosie
09-16-2008, 07:22 PM
He got 'em from me, and actually scanned them in so he can find his...my original copies are....somewhere :)

In a secret lair in a secret location beneath the city.:bolt:

10G OMNI
09-16-2008, 11:43 PM
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Dodge-Charger-TEST-RACE-1982-SHELBY-CHARGER-ROSSI-RACE-TEST-VEHICLE_W0QQitemZ220282503053QQihZ012QQcategoryZ61 99QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

1991SpiritES
09-21-2008, 01:50 PM
How about the 85-86 Dodge Lancers with the Turbo Sport package. Deleted the chrome Turbo badges and replaced them with decals. They where 2 tone colored and even had a fancy decal around the hood vent.

DC Turismo
09-26-2008, 06:47 PM
Never heard of those ones SpiritES, got any pics?

89boostedminivan
09-26-2008, 10:07 PM
anyone know the production #'s of the turbo vans from 89-90? i cant seem to find them anywhere , curious to how many were made

Johnny
09-28-2008, 10:05 PM
I'd like to know also. I see 89's a lot but rarely see the 90 ones.

Johnny

Turboy
09-30-2008, 05:20 PM
How about those 1986 Lancer Pacifica's? I just picked one up from a co-worker....leather interior with a 5 speed....needed a new HG but in pretty decent shape all things considered.....

BadAssPerformance
09-30-2008, 06:16 PM
+1, Those are pretty rare

Welcome to the forum! :thumb:

tsiconquest88
09-30-2008, 07:09 PM
supposedly the turbo vans were 33 percent of the prduction line totals for either 89 or all the years the turbo ones were made im not sure exactly, i seen those numbers on a site i was on and cant remember which one but remember the above numbers.

boostboy
09-30-2008, 07:33 PM
How about my 1989 Caravan ES turbo five speed. Manual windows, manual locks, no A/C, no Tach, no roof racks, no power rear vent wondows?

89boostedminivan
09-30-2008, 07:49 PM
thats how mine is minus the 5speed, it didnt come with anypower and just a basic dash, no tach, temp gauge nothing. all rear windows are no power vented

tsiconquest88
09-30-2008, 08:01 PM
same with my turbo voyager, but that number i mentioned covered all turbo vans. only thing as i said was im not sure if it meant 33 percent were turbo of all the voy's and caravans made as far as the years turbo were out as a whole or if it meant 33 percent of turbo vans of all the dodge turbo mini vans in 89 alone.

89boostedminivan
10-12-2008, 11:18 AM
i tried the vin decoder on allpar, it says it cant decode minivans but i tried anyway, heres what it came up with :confused:

Country : Canada
Make : Plymouth
Type : Multi-purpose Vehicle (MPV)
Model Year : 1989
Safety System : Class C: 4001-5000lbs
Body : AH: Lebaron
Series : High
Style : Style not in database!
Engine : Chrysler: 2.5L I-4 MFI Turbo
Check Digit : 0
Plant : Windsor, Ontario, Canada
Serial Number : 337980

overboostmotorsports
10-24-2008, 11:40 PM
one of my customers has a 1992 iroc r/t us dealer show car white loaded w/o slave cd (formerly owned by Bill Sizemore) and a 1989 csx w/ cruise (thought i remembered / heard these came w/out cruise)

Norm

SpiritedShelbys
01-07-2009, 06:10 PM
I think it would be fun to use the registry to find out what the actual rarest numbered car is using actual survivor rate. At first I thought the '86 GLHS but in thinking about it from a popularity stance I'd bet on the S-Lancer. They seem to be the most common to part out since they are 4-dr "undesirables."

rosie
01-09-2009, 08:02 PM
I think it would be fun to use the registry to find out what the actual rarest numbered car is using actual survivor rate. At first I thought the '86 GLHS but in thinking about it from a popularity stance I'd bet on the S-Lancer. They seem to be the most common to part out since they are 4-dr "undesirables."

4 real. I've seen 5 in the yard here in San Diego and that's with taking some years off from junkyarding. Who knows how many more just went the way of old yeller.

If the registery actually checked there emails then there might be a few more verified and registered.

gkcooper
01-14-2009, 08:37 PM
I have one of the 115 red '92 IROC R/T's
1B3XW64A5NN202296

Hopefully we can come up with a good list that everyone agrees on and we can narrow down the rarest of the rare :)[/QUOTE]

SpiritedShelbys
01-14-2009, 09:24 PM
I'm sure the Dodge production versions are hands down the "more" rare of the rare cars. The silver Spirit R/T and the VNT-GT LeBaron coupe are the most rare IIRC. Something like 31 and 15 aside from cars with oddball options and such. I'm interested about the surviving numbered cars since they're more likely perceived as being collectible since new. They were distinctively different from their Dodge counterparts and I'm sure most sold with that forethought. I'd imagine the original buyer of say a VNT shadow as different than that of the CSX-VNT in as much as one is a numbered car built from an automotive icon. The later being a fast/cool shadow but the special components being forgotten upon resale whereas the CSX-VNT is something difficult to commonly overlook. I could be wrong but that's how I've always viewed them. All rare in any case. The survivor percentages would be interesting and I'd bet would put the SL and '88 CSX-T as the most rare due to both lack of desirability and/or parting out.

Reaper1
01-14-2009, 10:42 PM
The VNT-GTC LeBaron count is around 125 IIRC. I've seen too many in my lifetime for there to be only 15-25(I've even driven one...and would LOVE to own one one day...GREAT car!). I've personally never heard of or seen a VNT-GT LeBaron as according to the sales literature there was no such option(that I can remember...the GT Turbo was offered only as a TI).

johnl
01-14-2009, 10:58 PM
What about the Masi TCs?

2.216VTurbo
01-14-2009, 11:13 PM
What about the Masi TCs?

Here here!:thumb: only 501 with the 16V motor:eyebrows: I've got that $5. for ya John:D

SpiritedShelbys
01-15-2009, 01:50 PM
Not the lebaron gtc.. the vnt lebaron coupe. A friend of mine wound up with a vnt conv which was more rare than my CSX and when I looked up the numbers the coupe had a ridiculously low number. I didn't even know they made 'em! An yup the masi's are cool and rare but I see them far more frequently where I live than any Shelby cars granted I'm sure thats a mixture of 6cyl and turbo. The only Shelbys I ever see are my old ones and even thats becoming rare lol.

rich tideswell
01-15-2009, 04:24 PM
I'm not sure if this was already brought up, but on the news the PT Cruiser is now really dead this year, how rare are the GT's? I know there were some different varriants, but I would guess more Neon SRT-4's were made that GT Cruisers..

I suppose the rarest would be 5speed convertable???

boostboy
01-15-2009, 07:32 PM
I'm not sure if this was already brought up, but on the news the PT Cruiser is now really dead this year, how rare are the GT's? I know there were some different varriants, but I would guess more Neon SRT-4's were made that GT Cruisers..

I suppose the rarest would be 5speed convertable???

I think there would be way more PTGT's, they only made 16,XXX SRT-4's. I'd say the five speed H.O cars would be rarest, and that combo in a convertible is hard to find. I was looking for one loaclly for over a year.

mopardad1
01-15-2009, 07:37 PM
what is the AGS option?



While reading Ralph Scott's post of finding the last Electric Blue Iroc R/T (now having them all accounted for except for one that was stolen in 02 :( ), I began to wonder, what would the list look like of the rarest turbo Mopars produced? The old school Mopar guys have those lists of the rarest 'Cuda, Challenger packages, etc. so I'm curious as to what a list of our style of cars would look like when broken down into the rarest.....

Of course, the blue Iroc R/T's would be close atop the list since only 8 were made in that color combo. Anyone want to give a shot at listing the rarest cars in order, #'d car or not? I guess we can throw prototypes in on this too, but do it in a separate list. The list should be based on rarity in terms of least # produced with certain options, etc. I post this up because I'd like to see input from those of you knowledgeable on the other various cars, such as Daytonas, Le Barons, Spirit R/Ts, Shelby Chargers, etc.

Here's a start, if I may: (Iroc R/T numbers used from Ralph Scott's website)

2 1989 CSX's w/ wide tire&non-recaro option
3 1990 Chrysler Le Baron GTC-VNT's w/Mini Trip, Infinity II/CD, Black, convt.
8 1993 Electric Blue Iroc R/T's
15 1989 CSX's w/ wide tire&recaro option
17 1993 White Iroc R/T's
21 1990 Dodge Daytona VNT's with AGS option
31 1992 Silver Spirit R/T's
32 1993 Red Iroc R/T's
34 1993 Black Iroc R/T's
60 1992 Black Iroc R/T's
75 1992 White Iroc R/T's
90 1993 Emerald Green Iroc R/T's
115 1992 Red Iroc R/T's
208 1989 Dodge Lancer Shelby's
255 1990 Chrysler Le Baron GTC-VNT's
279 1988 Dodge Lancer Shelby's
500 1986 Shelby GLHS Omni's
500 1989 Shelby CSX-VNT's
750 1987 Shelby CSX's
800 1987 Shelby Lancer's
1000 1987 Shelby GLHS Charger's
1000 1988 Shelby CSX-T's
1500 1989 Shelby Dakota's
? in red, ? in white

? 1990 Dodge Shadow VNT's (2 dr)
? 1990 Dodge Shadow VNT's (4 dr)

Prototypes:
2? 90 CSX prototypes in Bonzai Blue
3? 86 Shelby Lancer Prototypes
Hans Herman Head GLHS Omni

Hopefully we can come up with a good list that everyone agrees on and we can narrow down the rarest of the rare :)

turbospirites
01-15-2009, 11:52 PM
How many turbo c/v vans where made? My dad had one 2.5l turbo 5 speed.

BadAssPerformance
01-16-2009, 12:09 AM
what is the AGS option?

AGS was the top level Daytona Competition Package... in '90 it came with the Turbo IV/A568 engine/trans combo

scrampage1
01-16-2009, 12:31 AM
If I recall correctly, there was less than 200 1989 Chrysler LeBaron GTS (H-Body) built with the Turbo II motor.

Ray
Central California

mopardad1
01-16-2009, 12:59 AM
Okay,
My son has a 1990 Daytona Shelby. VNT 568 5/spd one of 536, red 16" pumpers

Reaper1
01-16-2009, 01:10 AM
The 255 1990 LeBaron GTC-VNT's include the convertible and the coupe. The one a friend of mine had and I got to drive was a red coupe.

I also know where there is an '89 H-body TII car in very nice shape in Jax!! :thumb:

Johnny
01-16-2009, 03:11 AM
Hopefully we can come up with a good list that everyone agrees on and we can narrow down the rarest of the rare

Rarest is ONE only made...
this one...(the one on the left)

http://polybushings.com/images/ACShelbyAutograph.jpg

Reaper1
01-16-2009, 09:18 AM
^^Yeah yeah....keep rubbing it in Johnny!! LOL

mopardad1
01-16-2009, 11:02 AM
Okay Johnny, explain

Johnny
01-16-2009, 12:26 PM
Here are the three web pages all about the car.....

http://polybushings.com/pages/3000.html

http://polybushings.com/pages/AC3000ME.html

http://polybushings.com/pages/AC3000MEtext.html

2.216VTurbo
01-16-2009, 12:55 PM
I've seen the pic before Johnny but never read the write up. Nicely done:clap: Hey, maybe Steve would come to an Applebees meet:eyebrows:? Maybe you could give him a little nudge and my digits:thumb:

mopardad1
01-16-2009, 01:43 PM
Thanks, by far the rarest!



Here are theree web pages all about the car.....

http://polybushings.com/pages/3000.html

http://polybushings.com/pages/AC3000ME.html

http://polybushings.com/pages/AC3000MEtext.html

boostboy
01-16-2009, 03:22 PM
How many turbo c/v vans where made? My dad had one 2.5l turbo 5 speed.

That has got to be extremly rare, not many turbo C/V vans were made, and even less five speeds. Is it a 1989 or a 1990? Any chance on getting a couple pictures of it?

SpiritedShelbys
01-16-2009, 03:25 PM
That's pretty cool Johnny!

Johnny
01-16-2009, 03:25 PM
My daughter drives a 1989 Mini C/V turbo with auto.
Was VERY hard to find!

Johnny

BadAssPerformance
01-16-2009, 03:56 PM
My daughter drives a 1989 Mini C/V turbo with auto.
Was VERY hard to find!

Johnny

Really? pics? :thumb:

tsiconquest88
01-16-2009, 04:59 PM
turbospirites- How many turbo c/v vans where made? My dad had one 2.5l turbo 5 speed.

I posted this somewhere and forgot where on the site but i have a percentage number, i read online from a site that the turbo voyagers/caravans were 30 or 33 percent (somewhere in that number) and it wasnt clear if that was the percent of caravans/voyagers in 89-90 or if it was all in 89 OR all in 90, etc. But yea that 3x percent number is a starting point.

boostboy
01-16-2009, 07:05 PM
I posted this somewhere and forgot where on the site but i have a percentage number, i read online from a site that the turbo voyagers/caravans were 30 or 33 percent (somewhere in that number) and it wasnt clear if that was the percent of caravans/voyagers in 89-90 or if it was all in 89 OR all in 90, etc. But yea that 3x percent number is a starting point.

That is for passenger vans, he is asking about Cargo vans. No windows on the side and no seats in the back. They have a different grille setup as well still retaining the older sealed beam headlamps.

Johnny
01-17-2009, 12:04 AM
They have a different grille setup as well still retaining the older sealed beam headlamps.

Yes they usually do, but my daughter's has the passenger van style lights for some reason.

Johnny

turbospirites
01-17-2009, 01:31 PM
That has got to be extremly rare, not many turbo C/V vans were made, and even less five speeds. Is it a 1989 or a 1990? Any chance on getting a couple pictures of it?
I don't have any pics of it my dad sold it to a guy, the guy didn't pay for it in full and sent it to the scrapper :( it was a 89.

tsiconquest88
01-17-2009, 01:58 PM
oh ok thanks boostboy, the site didnt clarify that either. I assumed it meant all of the turbo vans as a whole.

tsiconquest88
01-17-2009, 02:00 PM
and thats an F'n shame!!!! That dude should get beat down for both of those escapades lol

turbospirites
01-18-2009, 04:47 AM
and thats an F'n shame!!!! That dude should get beat down for both of those escapades lol

Yea you can't find them or find out how many turbo cv vans where made in a manual :mad:

1986GLH
01-19-2009, 12:16 PM
I know it has already been listed but the 90 Shadow ES VNT 4 doors. My brother has one and when he bought it the guy said it was a 1 of 7 car. It was supposed to be made for Chrysler executives back in the day and given to them for a 1 year lease and then sold to the public. The car is pretty loaded for a Shadow.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk261/1986GLH/IMG_2443.jpg

tsiconquest88
01-19-2009, 12:31 PM
its one of 7 and your post count is 7. Sorry i thought it was ironic lol

1986GLH
01-19-2009, 01:13 PM
its one of 7 and your post count is 7. Sorry i thought it was ironic lol
Wow didn't realize that, I've been on TD.com for a while but Alan got me to come over here.

Does anyone have any more information about the VNT 4 door Shadows?

2.216VTurbo
01-19-2009, 09:34 PM
Wow didn't realize that, I've been on TD.com for a while but Alan got me to come over here.

Does anyone have any more information about the VNT 4 door Shadows?


Word:amen: Just one more convert from the dark side to the light:clap:


Nice looking ES BTW, VNT too eh? Sweet:thumb:

tsiconquest88
01-19-2009, 10:04 PM
Yea same here i was at TD in 05 under a different username. I hadnt been on in a long time forgot it and all, made a new name (this one) over the summer when i got the van, and clayton told me about this site. Glad he did. Awsome group of guys here!!

1986GLH
01-20-2009, 12:08 AM
Word:amen: Just one more convert from the dark side to the light:clap:


Nice looking ES BTW, VNT too eh? Sweet:thumb:
Thanks Alan, it's my brother Jason's car (he is 84omni on here) the GLH in the back is mine. He is planning on getting it repainted before summer, the pictures hide all the flaws and rust. Otherwise it's a fun car to drive.

tmsautoart
01-28-2009, 01:41 AM
1 1988 CSX-T with Sunroof... The legendary one given to the daughter of the president of Thrifty Rental Cars

Newbie checking in. GLH non turbo was my first car when I turned 16 in 1988...then purchased 85 GLH-t SCCA champion car from a friend in 1991 or 92. Still have it....
Back on topic: Is this the intercooled car also being referred to as the "birthday car"? I lived in Meriden,CT for a while in the mid to late 1990s and raced a kid w/ a 88 csx-t. We stopped up the road to chat and he tells me its intercooled...I say "oh, you added the intercooler?" and he said it was factory Shelby installed. I'm thinking this kid has no idea. Then a couple months later i'm flipping through a paperback Shelby book and see the car...or a CSX-T that has the same blue pinstripe on the tail. I'm thinking its just like the one in CT. Then I read the story and find that the car did indeed resides in CT. I pooped my pants. A couple years later I see the car again, this time much more ragged and abused looking. It's sitting in a parking lot and I stop to look at it. A guy comes out and asks why i'm looking at his car. I tell him about the car and he has no interest. He says he just bought it for basic transportation. He is there cleaning the office building......Never saw it again.

speeddemon
01-28-2009, 09:57 AM
...then purchased 85 GLH-t SCCA champion car from a friend in 1991 or 92. Still have it....

There's a car I'd like to see.

rich tideswell
01-28-2009, 01:50 PM
Back on topic: Is this the intercooled car also being referred to as the "birthday car"?

No, the birthday car was an 89 prototype

daver
01-28-2009, 10:21 PM
According to Chrysler 1 Spirit R/T built with the WS4 interior, and 2 built with the full-length overhead console (the one with the WS4 also happening to be one of the 2 with the full console)

bradp
01-28-2009, 10:25 PM
According to Chrysler 1 Spirit R/T built with the WS4 interior, and 2 built with the full-length overhead console (the one with the WS4 also happening to be one of the 2 with the full console)

I think that's the car Cliff Sebring used to own.

tmsautoart
01-29-2009, 12:57 AM
There's a car I'd like to see.

I'll get some more on here, but this was all I had on the computer.

Circa 1991 or 92. Pretty fresh from it's racing days. It was the SARRC ESP (I think) class champion car in 1987 driven by a friend of mine. I bought it in 91.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4185/4841/22962420001_large.jpg


Shelby signing the roof. He also signed the area beyond the spare tire well and that one is still there. The roof one is sadly gone.


http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4185/4841/22962420002_large.jpg


This one is from about 1994 or 95 at a friends shop. Changed the Revolution wheels from black to silver.


http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4185/4841/22962420003_large.jpg

tmsautoart
01-29-2009, 12:59 AM
No, the birthday car was an 89 prototype


Got it.
So does anybody know the car I was refering to?

2.216VTurbo
01-29-2009, 01:25 AM
With the Silver Revolution wheels it does look like Cliff's old car, but I only know from pics back in the day... Good story TMS, thanks for increasing the value of TM.com TMS:thumb:

Johnny
01-29-2009, 03:30 AM
If you are talking about the intercooled CSX-T cars...I know a couple were and were SCCA road raced. Maybe others? The one I know about was driven by the president of Thrifty. When the racing was finished, Shelby was asked to restore the car and then Thrifty gave the car to the driver/president of Thrifty rental. Who lived in Portland, Oregon. A close friend of mine bought the car from him. You could still see where some kind of computer data machine had been bolted to the passenger side floor. It also had a full roll cage in it.
My friend blew a hole in one of the pistons and decided to sell it to another guy I know. He fixed it and raced it for a few years at PIR (Portland Int. Raceway). He also then stripped the interior and painted it red, inside and out.... real ugly. He has since sold it. Last I heard it was sitting behind a guys house stripped to only a shell.

Johnny

tmsautoart
01-29-2009, 12:28 PM
With the Silver Revolution wheels it does look like Cliff's old car, but I only know from pics back in the day... Good story TMS, thanks for increasing the value of TM.com TMS:thumb:

This car belonged to a friend of mine who was the original owner...actually he was technically the 2nd owner. The car was an early turbo I was told, one of the first in the southeast and was a demo car for Chrysler. I have all the paperwork including the "bought from Chrysler/ sold to Chrysler/ Dodge" in Alabama I believe. Moss Wells, the guy I bought it from already had a non turbo and as soon as he could get a turbo, he put the word out to a local Dodge dealership (I think it was Westside Dodge here in Jacksonville) and they had the car shipped. I even have the shipping paperwork! The revolutions were actually gold/ grey / then black and were bought from a lady who was a very good GLH autocrosser in the mid west. I can't remember her name, but I remember seeing pics of her autocrossing in a book and it had the revs on it. I have that receipt as well. I'll scan some stuff in later tonight.

tmsautoart
01-29-2009, 12:33 PM
If you are talking about the intercooled CSX-T cars...I know a couple were and were SCCA road raced. Maybe others? The one I know about was driven by the president of Thrifty. When the racing was finished, Shelby was asked to restore the car and then Thrifty gave the car to the driver/president of Thrifty rental. Who lived in Portland, Oregon. A close friend of mine bought the car from him. You could still see where some kind of computer data machine had been bolted to the passenger side floor. It also had a full roll cage in it.
My friend blew a hole in one of the pistons and decided to sell it to another guy I know. He fixed it and raced it for a few years at PIR (Portland Int. Raceway). He also then stripped the interior and painted it red, inside and out.... real ugly. He has since sold it. Last I heard it was sitting behind a guys house stripped to only a shell.

Johnny

No Johnny, the car I was refering to was not a race car and had no cage. It was definately a CT car. I even remember reading in the Shelby book that it was in CT. I may be incorrect, but I recall the tip off was that the tail had a blue pinstripe on it. Unlike any other 88 CSX I had seen. Thats when I figured out it WAS the car I had seen / street raced against in Meriden , CT. I won by the way...:evil:

Reaper1
01-29-2009, 02:30 PM
CXS-T's were SUPPOSED to have a blue pin stripe on the wing. I don't know if that is what you are reffering to, but I know that is the case, however, most are missing. I also beleive there was a CSX-T that was modded for the president of Thrifty's daughter(I *thought* that was the story anyways), and I thought I remembered something about a sunroof....

BTW, I notcied you're in Jax...where about?

SpiritedShelbys
01-29-2009, 06:50 PM
My old CSX-T had a blue beltline stripe, a pinstripe following the body line all the way around the car, a stripe around the spoiler, and one on the hood that went around the power bulge. They all matched so I doubt anything was added.

tmsautoart
01-29-2009, 07:33 PM
CXS-T's were SUPPOSED to have a blue pin stripe on the wing. I don't know if that is what you are reffering to, but I know that is the case, however, most are missing. I also beleive there was a CSX-T that was modded for the president of Thrifty's daughter(I *thought* that was the story anyways), and I thought I remembered something about a sunroof....

BTW, I notcied you're in Jax...where about?

I wish I had the paperback book I keep refering to...It had the car i'm talking about pictured w/ a little write up next to it. It said it was the only 88 intercooled and given to the pres of thrifty...I should have bought it back in the day.(the book, not the car)
The blue pinstrip wasn't the single stripe around the belt line, but rather on the trailing edge of the tail and it was 2 stripes. One being fatter and one skinny stripe. (think everyday Pep Boys pinstripe) Did all the 88s have that?
Reaper...i'm on the westsideOrange Park area now, but grew up out at the beaches/Ponte Vedra. Where abouts are you in Jax and what are you driving? Maybe i've seen you....

tmsautoart
01-29-2009, 07:43 PM
Just an FYI because it's bothering me. I believe this is the book in which I keep refering to. Anyone have it?


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Q5KDZMY7L._SS500_.jpg

Johnny
01-29-2009, 09:46 PM
I do somewhere.

tmsautoart
01-29-2009, 11:38 PM
oh...I have this one too. From way back in the day...93 or 94 maybe.....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads11/glh+backhjames1191441353.jpg

Bozo
01-30-2009, 07:26 AM
Hmmmm.....girls on cars.......:clap: :eyebrows:

Great story and I for one, am hoping you find the mag with the car in it....too cool!

Reaper1
01-31-2009, 12:31 PM
I wish I had the paperback book I keep refering to...It had the car i'm talking about pictured w/ a little write up next to it. It said it was the only 88 intercooled and given to the pres of thrifty...I should have bought it back in the day.(the book, not the car)
The blue pinstrip wasn't the single stripe around the belt line, but rather on the trailing edge of the tail and it was 2 stripes. One being fatter and one skinny stripe. (think everyday Pep Boys pinstripe) Did all the 88s have that?
Reaper...i'm on the westsideOrange Park area now, but grew up out at the beaches/Ponte Vedra. Where abouts are you in Jax and what are you driving? Maybe i've seen you....

AFAIK all CSX-T's got the above mentioned stripes from the factory. *most* had them all but the beltline stipe dissapear over time.

I live on the Westside up by Paxon High School, but some of my buddies live over off of 103'rd. I'm typically not really even in Jax right now as I'm going to school full time down at Embry-Riddle in Daytona Beach and "reside" in DeLand.

I've got a white '88 Daytona Shelby Z that is lowered and has Enkie RPF wheels on it(kinda hard to miss if you're in to these cars). The one friend has a '91 Daytona CS(white) which is driven quite a bit.



oh...I have this one too. From way back in the day...93 or 94 maybe.....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads11/glh+backhjames1191441353.jpg


I'd like to see the "imprint" on the rear window after that photoshoot! :eyebrows::lol::evil::lol::clap::thumb:

Sgt Craig
02-04-2009, 11:47 PM
thats how mine is minus the 5speed, it didnt come with anypower and just a basic dash, no tach, temp gauge nothing. all rear windows are no power vented

Thats how my 90 is,No a/c,no tach,roofrack,plastic interior pieces 5 speed One rearseat,no provisions in floor for 3rd.Only options is 2.5 Turbo and different 14inch tires.I have the windowsticker.I posted it in this thread awhile ago.Its driven daily 126k on it now.I love the thing,needs some rust repair.

tmsautoart
04-25-2009, 11:46 AM
Found some more old pics to scan. The first few are Moss Wells (previous owner of the car) circa 1986/87 at Road Atlanta I believe. The last is me at Whitehouse AutoX around 92/93. Yes, those are huge Ray Bans on my head.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4185/4841/22962420007_large.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4185/4841/22962420006_large.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4185/4841/22962420005_large.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4185/4841/22962420004_large.jpg

BadAssPerformance
04-25-2009, 11:55 AM
Awesome pics! especially this one :thumb:

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4185/4841/22962420005_large.jpg

rosie
04-25-2009, 12:31 PM
Sic! What kind of rims are those? Shelby Lancer rims?

Reaper1
04-26-2009, 12:28 AM
Found some more old pics to scan. The first few are Moss Wells (previous owner of the car) circa 1986/87 at Road Atlanta I believe. The last is me at Whitehouse AutoX around 92/93. Yes, those are huge Ray Bans on my head.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4185/4841/22962420007_large.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4185/4841/22962420006_large.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4185/4841/22962420005_large.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4185/4841/22962420004_large.jpg

I know Moss Wells! I used to hang out at his shop a lot back around 2000/2001 or so! An aquaintence of mine used to have a repair shop in the same complex as his off Leon Rd. He's got a really nice picture of his GLH-T on his wall in his office! :thumb:

Have we ever met up? If not we certainly need to! :thumb:

Garffus
04-27-2009, 06:42 AM
If you are talking about the intercooled CSX-T cars...I know a couple were and were SCCA road raced. Maybe others? The one I know about was driven by the president of Thrifty. When the racing was finished, Shelby was asked to restore the car and then Thrifty gave the car to the driver/president of Thrifty rental. Who lived in Portland, Oregon. A close friend of mine bought the car from him. You could still see where some kind of computer data machine had been bolted to the passenger side floor. It also had a full roll cage in it.
My friend blew a hole in one of the pistons and decided to sell it to another guy I know. He fixed it and raced it for a few years at PIR (Portland Int. Raceway). He also then stripped the interior and painted it red, inside and out.... real ugly. He has since sold it. Last I heard it was sitting behind a guys house stripped to only a shell.

Johnny

Do you mean this car Johny? sorry can't remember what track this is at, but it is 88.

http://www.front-runners.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2142&g2_serialNumber=1

2.216VTurbo
04-27-2009, 01:17 PM
Do you mean this car Johny? sorry can't remember what track this is at, but it is 88.

http://www.front-runners.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2142&g2_serialNumber=1

So if you just started a 'Guess this track' thread, I vote Lime Rock though I've only raced there once and it was 1995;)

BadAssPerformance
04-27-2009, 01:18 PM
So if you just started a 'Guess this track' thread, I vote Lime Rock though I've only raced there once and it was 1995;)

...and you were sleep deprived from driving around the country all week ;)

tmsautoart
04-27-2009, 09:47 PM
Sic! What kind of rims are those? Shelby Lancer rims?
Those are lightweight Revolution racing wheels that were purchased back in the 80's from a lady that was a bigtime Autox champion. I know I used to see pics of her in a FWD high perf. book. The wheels were gold. Previous owner painted them black. I went silver but will go back to black.

tmsautoart
04-27-2009, 10:03 PM
I know Moss Wells! I used to hang out at his shop a lot back around 2000/2001 or so! An aquaintence of mine used to have a repair shop in the same complex as his off Leon Rd. He's got a really nice picture of his GLH-T on his wall in his office! :thumb:

Have we ever met up? If not we certainly need to! :thumb:

I don't think we've met.
I've know Moss since the late 80's. I bought his car in like 91 or 92. I was up there tons when he first opened up. He's the reason I got into Porsches. I was still in CT or just moving back to Fl during 2000/2001, so I wasn't up there too much then. I think he was pretty tired of the Porsche business at that time and has since closed shop. Too bad....he was a whiz with 911/930s. I talk to him once in a blue moon. He's become quite the recluse.
Ya..the pics in his office, he had all those trophies and plaques as well. 1st place, 1st place, 1st place, Champion, etc. Pretty good driver.

Johnny
04-28-2009, 02:28 AM
Do you mean this car Johny? sorry can't remember what track this is at, but it is 88.

http://www.front-runners.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2142&g2_serialNumber=1

I am not sure which of the two it was, but yes, looked like that.
I can't remember which "Thrifty" price number was on the one I knew.
Maybe I can find out.......

Johnny