My First Attempt Of A Tubular Header

[BILLYBOOST]

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Still not 100% done.

[t3rse]

What everyone is going to tell you is that your collector sucks. I say good stuff! Looks sweet. Great to see someone doing cool one-off stuff.

[BILLYBOOST]

It seems like the people that talk a lot of 'S' about peoples stuff never build anything, take pictures , or provide any proof that there idea is any better. But I like input. I just build something and try it. I know some headers join the pipes in firing order in the collector. I want to try this. THANKS, BILL

[zin]

What everyone is going to tell you is that your collector sucks. I say good stuff! Looks sweet. Great to see someone doing cool one-off stuff.

I wouldn't say the collector sucks, though I could be better. That said, I'm always amazed when anyone manages to build any tubular header that will fit in the car! Better than anything I could do myself, that's for sure!

Mike

[turbovanman²]

Looks good. :D Why does the collector suck?

I can't tell but how are you doing to hook up the DP?

[BILLYBOOST]

I have a 90 degree 3" elbow that I'm going to weld to the blockoff plate on the turbine housing and join it up with the cars 3" system. THANKS, BILL

[Frank]

What everyone is going to tell you is that your collector sucks. I say good stuff! Looks sweet. Great to see someone doing cool one-off stuff.

It is less then ideal, but it is freaken sweet header. I only complain about collectors when people are selling headers for gobs of money and don't build a collector that is worth of the money they ar eputting into it.

[WLKivett]

Is that piece of bar stock your turbo support? You’d be wise to add a joint to allow expansion but still provide support. Look for pics of warren header and how he supported it. It’s a true work of art.

Best Regards,
Landon Kivett

[jeremyshelby]

that looks like a sweet piece....i am jealous i wish i had time to play with that type of stuff....one thing was thinking was did you ever look at doing a 4-2-1 instead of a 4-1 collector style.....i have always heard the 4-2-1 gives better scavenging but this was for sport bike motors maybe the 8v is different. I desgined and built the header we used on my colleges formula SAE car that was a 600cc honda motor one year was a turbo and another year was NA. Both years we used a 4-2-1 header. maybe ill see i can dig up some pics of it. it was easy to design because we had tons of room to work with in comparision to our cars.

[turbovanman²]

Is that the only thing you will have changed or like all of us, you changed a bunch of stuff?

[BILLYBOOST]

I am changing almost everything. 2.2 cb 20 over,stock forged crank,K1 h-beam rods,wiseco forged pistons w/file fit rings,901 wrist pins,windage tray and crank scraper,Steve Menegon large valve ported swirl head with his custom cam grind,ported 2 piece w/52mm t body,the header w/external w. gate(38mm t. netics evolution),t3/t4 super 50 trim t. netics,spearco 1080 cfm intercooler,lonewolf performance fuel rail,+40 injectors,accufab afpr,walbro 255 pump,msd 6al w/2 step,t.u. kevlar clutch,568 w/quaife,wideband,other gauges,3" exhaust,suspension and brake upgrades. Other stuff will get done along the way. I am taking pictures and video of the project. THANKS, BILL

[1FastCSX289]

I am changing almost everything. 2.2 cb 20 over,stock forged crank,K1 h-beam rods,wiseco forged pistons w/file fit rings,901 wrist pins,windage tray and crank scraper,Steve Menegon large valve ported swirl head with his custom cam grind,ported 2 piece w/52mm t body,the header w/external w. gate(38mm t. netics evolution),t3/t4 super 50 trim t. netics,spearco 1080 cfm intercooler,lonewolf performance fuel rail,+40 injectors,accufab afpr,walbro 255 pump,msd 6al w/2 step,t.u. kevlar clutch,568 w/quaife,wideband,other gauges,3" exhaust,suspension and brake upgrades. Other stuff will get done along the way. I am taking pictures and video of the project. THANKS, BILL


WOW.:evil: That should rock. What kind of car is it going in?

[BILLYBOOST]

Is that piece of bar stock your turbo support? You’d be wise to add a joint to allow expansion but still provide support. Look for pics of warren header and how he supported it. It’s a true work of art.

Best Regards,
Landon Kivett

I still have some work to do with supports. I saw his supports. That's a good idea. THANKS, BILL

[BILLYBOOST]

WOW.:evil: That should rock. What kind of car is it going in?

90 Shadow, THANKS, BILL

[turbovanman²]

Going for 9's? :thumb:

[BILLYBOOST]

Going for 9's? :thumb:

We would be happy with a car that would run reliably in the elevens.

[8valves]

It's good to see people out there and making some stuff. You're off to a strong start with it.

[speedfreek500]

What turbo is that i soo want one! Oh great job on the header too!

[Revolution]

Nice job.:thumb:

[BILLYBOOST]

What turbo is that i soo want one! Oh great job on the header too!
The turbo is a Turbonetics T3/T4 Super 50 trim. THANKS,BILL

[t3rse]

rock on!

[crazymadbastard]

That is very handy work there. :thumb:

Warren set the bar way high! besides indy or nascar racing stuff, I have not seen that type of quality offered by a vendor.



Look for pics of warren header and how he supported it. It’s a true work of art.

Best Regards,
Landon Kivett

[Aries_Turbo]

whats the header material?

my wife looked over and asked, "is that wrapped in burlap?"... it made me laugh alot. :) then i explained header wrap lol.

Brian

[karlak]

Wish I knew how to do that for the t-3....

[crazymadbastard]

Wish I knew how to do that for the t-3....
me two, I plan on making some stuff. I know the first few things I do will look like a55, but I still will be proud of my turds.:nod:

[BILLYBOOST]

whats the header material?

my wife looked over and asked, "is that wrapped in burlap?"... it made me laugh alot. :) then i explained header wrap lol.

Brian

It is 1.5" mild steel. The collector is cut from sheet steel and a big block Mopar header collector I had laying around. The collector to turbo pipe is 2.5" mild steel. I already have ideas for another header. This is sorta a test piece. The next one I do will be in stainless steel and the collector will be a different style. This is the first header I have built for anything so everything is trial and error right now. The header wrap is nasty stuff to work with. If you ever use it wear gloves. FIBERGLASS! BILL

[BILLYBOOST]

That is very handy work there. :thumb:

Warren set the bar way high! besides indy or nascar racing stuff, I have not seen that type of quality offered by a vendor.

Warren's header is beautiful. He must have a lot of hours into it. The end result was worth it. THANK YOU, BILL

[crazymadbastard]

Warren's header is beautiful. He must have a lot of hours into it. The end result was worth it. THANK YOU, BILL


Hey it gives us something to shoot for. Eventually...

[1985ShlbyChrger]

What part of Philly are you from?

[BILLYBOOST]

What part of Philly are you from?

Northeast Philly/Oxford Circle area. BILL

[errol]

for the first attempt I'd say big cudos,as some wise person once said "to whom much is given to whom much is required"I love it,keep the juices flowing my man u can only get better.Fantastic proto type.Regards Errol

[fishcleaner]

Nice job, after doing mine I can really appreciate the time and work involved making one. Lessons learned from mine, I would do it in mild steel and have it jet hot coated, not stainless. The header wrap I soaked with header paint, by soaking it, it creates like a cast and keeps the fiberglass glued. I went with a 2 into 1 to save space and there is only one exhaust pulse at a time in a pair of tubes, plus with the turbo there is always going to be some back pressure.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/header02.jpg

[turbovanman²]

Interesting design, I like it. Any results?

[errol]

Hey Bill, have u perfected the design on the equal length tubular header for the omni's or have u given up on the idea?I've seen others but the idea of equal lengths i find quite impressive,very nicely done,if there'r pics of ur new design (if u r still making them) u can pm me ur response.Regards. Errol

[RoadWarrior222]

The header wrap I soaked with header paint, by soaking it, it creates like a cast and keeps the fiberglass glued. Lemme know how that works out, I was pondering doing that on a mild steel eBay header, wetting it with paint, wrapping it with FG tape, then wetting on top with paint again... figgering it would keep FG tidier and help against underneath rot from condensation and salt spray in winter.... though I didn't know how the paint would fare on the INSIDE of the insulation, whether it would hit above 6 or 700C or whatever it was rated for.

[fishcleaner]

Lemme know how that works out, I was pondering doing that on a mild steel eBay header, wetting it with paint, wrapping it with FG tape, then wetting on top with paint again... figgering it would keep FG tidier and help against underneath rot from condensation and salt spray in winter.... though I didn't know how the paint would fare on the INSIDE of the insulation, whether it would hit above 6 or 700C or whatever it was rated for.
Perfect timing on the question, last weekend I moved my O2 bung farther up the downpipe and cut thru the header wrap with a cut-off wheel and the wrap never untangled, it really did glue it like a cast. I used header paint and just held the can there until it was literally dripping.

[RoadWarrior222]

Thanks :thumb:

[ShadowFromHell]

Fishcleaner, do you have a pic of that header on the car or mocked up with a intake and turbo? I love the layout!