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moparzrule
12-21-2007, 07:01 PM
Can anybody post up or email me the zip file here for the 87' T2 2.2L 3 bar +20 injectors cal. I'm referring to the blueberry cal. Also I'd like the one that has the CEL on knock and the staging rev limiter enabled too. For some reason Geoff will not answer multiple email attempts to get into MoparChem so I can't download it.
Thanks in advance.

My email-
matthug@juno.com

cordes
12-21-2007, 07:25 PM
Here it is. This should be a 3 bar cal with stock timing and fuel. You will need to scale the fuel for the +20s and then you should be all set.

cordes
12-21-2007, 07:28 PM
Sorry that last one was the wrong file. This should be right.

moparzrule
12-21-2007, 09:30 PM
Hmm, not working. I mean it downloaded and I extracted it but there's no BIN or TBL file just ''batch'' files that are all only 1K each...???

moparzrule
12-21-2007, 09:31 PM
Oh I did forget to mention I'm running D-cal not Chem. I cannot get on the site to download chem2!!!

moparzrule
12-21-2007, 09:42 PM
Basically I'm looking for the blueberry ''43'' located on this page-
http://www.moparchem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12

cordes
12-21-2007, 09:54 PM
Here you go.

moparzrule
12-21-2007, 10:01 PM
Thank you!!!
Oh, and that one is meant for 3 bar +20's already right? No scaling needed?

cordes
12-21-2007, 10:10 PM
I don't really know. I believe that the original injectors he was using were the +20s, and I know that he has always run a 3 bar cal.

moparzrule
12-21-2007, 10:11 PM
Yeah it says that it's been scaled for +20's. Sweet, thanks again.

Aries_Turbo
12-23-2007, 07:53 PM
i thought I sent you the chem2 program?

there are some issues with the BB60 stock cal. just some table editing that Geoff did for issues with his car that dont work the best for stock vehicles.

id use the Blueberry60_Stock2b3b.zip file and then load it into chem2 (lemme know if you need it again)and scale the injectors for +20's. that cal is scaled for 3-bar but stock injectors.

Brian

moparzrule
12-23-2007, 10:01 PM
Hey Brian. Thats why I wanted BB43, it's already scaled to 3 bar and +20's and seems to be working fine with D-cal. Thanks though.

Aries_Turbo
12-23-2007, 11:59 PM
BB43 isnt a good one to use though. BB43 has lots of changes that Geoff made that are bad. timing is one of them that is sketchy. if you are at 20psi and you let off some, the part throttle tables have too much timing and not enough fuel and you can toast the motor. plus he did some other silly changes that make cars without issues run bad. you are better off taking some time and opening the one i told you to use in CHEM2 and using the scaling function to scale it to +20's. if you want me to i can whip something up and email it to you in a about an hour.

brian

moparzrule
12-24-2007, 08:13 AM
Oh OK. Yeah I downloaded chem2 and opened it up. In some aspects chem2 is easier than D-cal, and in other's it's more confusing. Thanks for the advice/info Brian.

cordes
12-24-2007, 12:51 PM
Oh OK. Yeah I downloaded chem2 and opened it up. In some aspects chem2 is easier than D-cal, and in other's it's more confusing. Thanks for the advice/info Brian.

In what way is Chem2 more confusing than D-cal?

moparzrule
12-24-2007, 02:38 PM
Probably only because I learned on D-cal, and chem2 is only slightly different. If chem was completely different, I would probably not find it as confusing honestly because I would have to re-learn everything. But since there's only minor changes here and there, it's just confusing. In some ways chem2 is easier to work with, but I like the layout better on d-cal. Hope that made sense.

Aries_Turbo
12-24-2007, 09:56 PM
yeah it is a bit different. i like the layout of d-cal better but some of the features of chem2 better so i have to use both.

Brian

Aries_Turbo
12-25-2007, 01:35 AM
did you still need me to make you something or can you take the stock settings 3-bar cal and scale the fuel in CHEM2 yourself? its pretty easy. use the File - Scale Injectors selection. it works well and its easy.

if you are planning on ramping the boost up past 15, youll want to pull the timing down in that range too.

Brian

moparzrule
12-25-2007, 07:35 AM
Yeah the scaling is the easier part with chem2, simple drop down menu is nice!
Thanks for the offer brian, for now I'll try on my own but if I need you to do that I'll PM you. :thumb:

Aries_Turbo
12-25-2007, 11:36 PM
sounds like a plan.

oh just a note since you cant get into moparchem yet.... in CHEM2 when you are viewing a table, you can add extra points by right clicking in the view area. works pretty slick for adding points in the higher boost ranges of the timing curves.

make sure you save a copy first though cause youll most likely need to realign to the current cal cause it messes the point locations up sometimes, especially in the running fuel tables.

Brian

moparzrule
12-26-2007, 07:24 AM
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