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mpgmike
11-08-2007, 09:49 AM
I planned on visiting a friend in Mass. the end of Nov. He called me and told me to bring the tow dolly. "Why?" I asked. "I lost storage on the Delorean and we need to get started on it sooner than planned."

So, as of next month I'll have an 11k original mile '81 DMC that's been in dry storage since sometime in 1983. I have a carte blanc to do whatever I want to the car. Obvious goals are gobs of power and impressive fuel economy. I wanted to start a thread to see what ideas y'all might have. Bring 'em on!
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/2815/delorean400lp7.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=delorean400lp7.jpg)

Mike

Subliminal
11-08-2007, 10:02 AM
Don't those weigh like 12 tons?

It will be interesting to see what you can do with that thing (power and economy wise).

88_pacifica
11-08-2007, 10:08 AM
keeping the orginal drivetrain? Personally, I would investigate the complexity and availability of a turbo V6 setup. Depending on the drivetrain mfgr you choose, it may be relatively easy...

Clay
11-08-2007, 10:21 AM
Step 1: remove crap-tastic v6

Step 2: install basically ANYTHING else. Might I suggest a 3.8L turbo V6? Or of course you could go with a 2.2L turbo 4, but that car just begs for some Buick power! ;)

Riverratt
11-08-2007, 10:25 AM
So, as of next month I'll have an 11k original mile '81 DMC that's been in dry storage since sometime in 1983. I have a carte blanc to do whatever I want to the car. Obvious goals are gobs of power and impressive fuel economy. I wanted to start a thread to see what ideas y'all might have. Bring 'em on!
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/2815/delorean400lp7.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=delorean400lp7.jpg)

Mike


HOLY COW! It's been in dry storage since 1983? 11K miles???

PUT IT UP ON EBAY and take the winnings and do what ever you want!!! I could not bring myself to do ANYTHING to such a car.

I bet their is more than one "deloren freak" out their who would sell their own mother for a car like that.

88_pacifica
11-08-2007, 10:26 AM
You're a very wise man Clay... ;) I just didn't want to present a "slanted and opinionated viewpoint" :D :nod: :confused:



I was definitely thinking it though... :eyebrows: :clap: :nod:

mcsvt
11-08-2007, 10:48 AM
All I can say is rotary! :) Though that doesn't bode well with good fuel mileage...

badandy
11-08-2007, 10:49 AM
HOLY COW! It's been in dry storage since 1983? 11K miles???

PUT IT UP ON EBAY and take the winnings and do what ever you want!!! I could not bring myself to do ANYTHING to such a car.

I bet their is more than one "deloren freak" out their who would sell their own mother for a car like that.

No way man....you gotta build that car into something cool, one of a kind!:hail:

JDAWG
11-08-2007, 10:52 AM
I would honestly sell it. Doesnt it cost like $60k to get a new one built?

Clay
11-08-2007, 10:54 AM
hey, how about some pictures!!!!!!!!

Turbodave
11-08-2007, 10:58 AM
Gotta install the MrFusion, great gas mileage then...

88_pacifica
11-08-2007, 11:02 AM
I don't think it's really Mike's to sell per-se. He's just been given free reign to make it faster and more efficient....

mpgmike
11-08-2007, 11:03 AM
I won't be picking the car up 'till the end of this month, so no pics yet.

The "official" weight is only 2700#.

It has a Peugeot/Reanault/Volvo V-6 with a 5-speed. Factory HP was rated at 130 US version (170 for the Euro spec version).

I'm partial to the Mopar drivetrain options, but have considered a GM 3.4 24-valve V-6, Ford SHO 3.0, Caddy Norstar V-8 along with the 2.5 16-valve turbo option.

Mike

JDAWG
11-08-2007, 11:07 AM
Cadillac Northstar would be freakin awesome. I hear wiring in those is a bia.

88_pacifica
11-08-2007, 11:09 AM
I'm partial to the Mopar drivetrain options, but have considered a GM 3.4 24-valve V-6, Ford SHO 3.0, Caddy Norstar V-8 along with the 2.5 16-valve turbo option.

Mike

A Caddy Northstar V8 twin turboed would be super sweet.... You can get info on those swaps from the Fiero forums. What's the budget for this little escapade?

Turbodave
11-08-2007, 11:17 AM
Is that V6 the same as the ones in the Dodge Monaco/Eagle Premeir? Not that they made much for HP either (I think they were rated at 140)

What about about the Chrysler 3.5V6 or the newer 4.0 variant? A local shop had a Prowler that was bored and stroked to 5.0L and put down some good power (sounded wicked too).

mpgmike
11-08-2007, 11:20 AM
Considering the magnitude of the project, budget is somewhat tight. We're going to try to keep it under $10 grand. It isn't my car, but the work I do gets my name on the title under the current owner's name. Looking to get some attention at shows with it.

I wanted to stay away cliche' stuff. Everybody with a '68-'70 Charger seems to want to paint it orange with a flag on the roof and an "01" on the side. Guys with the late '70s Trans Ams are painting them black with the gold bird on the hood. The list goes on. I briefly thought about a Time Machine clone, but quickly abandoned it.

Mike

88_pacifica
11-08-2007, 11:22 AM
this needs to be a driver so ixnay on the time machine part. I would definitely turbo whatever you choose to put in it, that's a fact....

Turbodave
11-08-2007, 11:25 AM
I can see the brushed stainless intercooler piping already ;)

turboaddict
11-08-2007, 11:42 AM
All I can say is rotary! :) Though that doesn't bode well with good fuel mileage...

im with you on that one! a 20b would be cool if you could squeeze it in. you could go turbo or n/a.

mcsvt
11-08-2007, 12:27 PM
There is a video on YouTube somewhere of a rotary Delorean. It's pretty darn cool :thumb:

CoolV300C
11-08-2007, 12:29 PM
keeping the orginal drivetrain? Personally, I would investigate the complexity and availability of a turbo V6 setup. Depending on the drivetrain mfgr you choose, it may be relatively easy...

I think you copy and paste this in every thread where someone asks what they should do.

88_pacifica
11-08-2007, 12:40 PM
hmmm... Yeah... I know. I just like the V6 platform and design. I don't like reinventing the wheel if I don't have to. I have always thought Chrysler would have done very well with a bigger turbo motor than the 4 cyl they offered... :(

Unfortunately, not many auto companies experimented with a V6 in production vehicles. Phord didn't really offer a 6 cyl, nor did ChryCo. SO, you got a GM...

The Stealth was a Mitsu package....

JeremyL
11-08-2007, 02:59 PM
The V6 in those is pretty weak, and they're known for problems with the fuel injection. I've seen a couple of them with the Northstar swap, and it's pretty sweet.

I'm still kicking myself for passing up on one when I was in high school.. coulda got it for 12 hundred bucks, but it had a crinkle in the quarter panel on one side.

There's a guy in my hometown who has two of the things. Last I saw they were both sitting on flat tires. One in the garage, and one parked behind it in the driveway.

GLHS592
11-08-2007, 03:16 PM
Whatever you do, make sure you get the latest Flux Capacitor. They've come a long way since 1985.

turbovanmanČ
11-08-2007, 04:28 PM
Whatever you do, make sure you get the latest Flux Capacitor. They've come a long way since 1985.

Beat me to it, :(


I would go turbo 3.8L, :thumb: :clap:

GLHS592
11-08-2007, 04:44 PM
Beat me to it, :(

I'm still amazed that it took 25 posts before the flux capacitor was mentioned. :D

turbovanmanČ
11-08-2007, 05:25 PM
I'm still amazed that it took 25 posts before the flux capacitor was mentioned. :D

I know, I figured it was mine, then you said it, :mecry: :lol:

boneyardracing
11-08-2007, 06:36 PM
I have always loved these. Quite a few have done the northstar swap. There were a couple of factory prototypes that were twin turbocharged, in fact I think they were up around 400hp. They are not much heavyer or bigger than a 2gn neon. DMC out of texas is sells H.O. replacement engines for about $4000.

WVRampage
11-08-2007, 06:46 PM
Make sure to polish the whole car.....

Directconnection
11-08-2007, 07:27 PM
Make sure to polish the whole car.....

...and NOT against the grain.

WVRampage
11-08-2007, 07:29 PM
That car is a work of art.

DeckSetter
11-08-2007, 08:47 PM
I might be reaching for this one, but my suggestion is......

TURBO DIESEL.

A 4BT MIGHT fit if you fab up a dry sump oiling system, but they're pretty tall. I bet you could get a VW TDI in there pretty easily though......

Frank
11-08-2007, 08:52 PM
Step 1: remove crap-tastic v6

Step 2: install basically ANYTHING else. Might I suggest a 3.8L turbo V6? Or of course you could go with a 2.2L turbo 4, but that car just begs for some Buick power! ;)


That is an awesome idea. A GM 3.8L turbo V6 is probably the most reliable, most powerful for minimal boost, and will have the proper power curve for the weight!!!

cordes
11-08-2007, 09:11 PM
I have seen pics of a Delorian with an LC1 in it. :eyebrows:

As for the exterior, well I think that these pics from this years dream cruise speak for themselves.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/delorian2.JPG

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/delorian.JPG

ETA: This car was PERFECT in every way that I could see as far as being correct from the movie. It was incredible.

mpgmike
11-08-2007, 11:25 PM
I will definately have to get the car and take some measurements. There will have to be custom axles to mate practically anything to the chassis. If several guys have stuffed the Caddy V-8 in them, then I guess there's enough room. The 500 HP mark has been crested with our 2.2/2.5 blocks with some sort of 16 valve top end. For a 2700# car, even RWD, that's more than ample. I helped with a 430 HP 8-valve 2.5, and am working on putting together a 450 HP 8-valve 2.2. I'm sure I can break the 500 HP mark with a 16 valve head.

So far my thoughts are to keep the exterior and interior essentially stock looking. I will have to see exactly what gauges are offered in the thing. Might consider a custom gauge cluster.

Mike

GLHNSLHT2
11-08-2007, 11:49 PM
Yep definately a MrFusion and a Hover conversion is in order :) If not KISS.

zin
11-09-2007, 12:15 AM
Guess I'll throw in my .02 too!

IIR the stock engine is a 60* V6, so I'd lean towards using another, say a 3.4L from a Grand Am GT (it's got the best 2V heads), add some forged lower compression pistons and a nice sized turbo. While it would still need some tuning, if you transplant the whole drive train, the PCM on those cars are Mass Air, so it would adapt itself to most mods, though forced induction would certainly need some additional programing or an FMU, etc. but at least you could swap it in and drive right away and then worry about the power adder. The Twin Dual Cam 3.4L(who comes up with these names?!), would be very cool too, but it's SOOO much bulkier, I'd have see if I had a shoe horn large enough to get it in there, and, if I was willing to deal with that, I'd rather have a V8 (Northstar w/turbo). If you can get a donor car, I think any of these conversions would be pretty straight forward, not to say that some judicious fad work wouldn't be in order, but at least you would have pretty much all the parts needed, less mounts.

Any way you slice it, sounds like it'll be a really -----'n ride when you're done! Don't forget to keep everyone updated on your progress!

Mike

jre97
11-09-2007, 05:53 AM
How about a 3.8 supercharged ford drivetrain?:banplease: Hey I've got a supercharger from one for sale:D

mpgmike
11-09-2007, 09:25 AM
How about a 3.8 supercharged ford drivetrain?:banplease: Hey I've got a supercharger from one for sale:D

Did they come with 5-speeds? That part is pretty much carved in soft stone. Don't want to go with an automatic.

Mike

BadAssPerformance
11-09-2007, 09:30 AM
Going BACK in Tiiiiiime.... LOL, every time I see onw I hear that song :thumb:

11k original mile? I vote to keep it 100% original. :nod:

mpgmike
11-09-2007, 09:34 AM
It was a theft recovery vehicle. It needs a windshield and some repair to the engine cover. It is also an "R" title vehicle. This depreciates the value some. After looking it over, stock might win. For now, we want to explore some really cool ideas for adding life.

Mike

BadAssPerformance
11-09-2007, 09:37 AM
Ouch... well, I guess anything is reversible... GN motor? :D

jre97
11-09-2007, 01:18 PM
Did they come with 5-speeds? That part is pretty much carved in soft stone. Don't want to go with an automatic.

Mike

They sure did.:thumb:

DeckSetter
11-09-2007, 09:36 PM
The 5 speed they used behind the Ford 3.8 supercharged engine in the T-Bird Super Coupe was supposedly stronger than the T5 they put in the Mustangs. If I remember right it is a beefier version of the Mazda 5 speed they put behind the 300 I6 and the small block V8 trucks, but has a lot smoother shifter setup.

mpgmike
11-10-2007, 10:59 AM
Yea, but the Super Coupe is front engine RWD. The DMC is mid-engine, which makes it a FWD type of layout. The frame runs down the center of the car, much like the early VW Bugs. A front engine conversion isn't worth the effort. Thanks for the info, though.

Mike

Aries_Turbo
11-16-2007, 06:09 PM
its actually rear engine. some guys use porsche trannies... the turbo ones are bulletproof. then kennedy engineered products offers adapters and clutch sets to bolt darn near any engine to it. mounts and axles and you are all set. you can use the porsche shifter setup too.

Brian

93sundance
11-17-2007, 12:06 PM
I have seen pics of a Delorian with an LC1 in it. :eyebrows:

As for the exterior, well I think that these pics from this years dream cruise speak for themselves.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/delorian2.JPG

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/500/delorian.JPG

ETA: This car was PERFECT in every way that I could see as far as being correct from the movie. It was incredible.


ITS FROM MICHIGAN! W00T!

TurboSedan
11-17-2007, 04:34 PM
Guess I'll throw in my .02 too!

IIR the stock engine is a 60* V6, so I'd lean towards using another, say a 3.4L from a Grand Am GT (it's got the best 2V heads), add some forged lower compression pistons and a nice sized turbo. While it would still need some tuning, if you transplant the whole drive train, the PCM on those cars are Mass Air, so it would adapt itself to most mods, though forced induction would certainly need some additional programing or an FMU, etc. but at least you could swap it in and drive right away and then worry about the power adder. The Twin Dual Cam 3.4L(who comes up with these names?!), would be very cool too, but it's SOOO much bulkier, I'd have see if I had a shoe horn large enough to get it in there, and, if I was willing to deal with that, I'd rather have a V8 (Northstar w/turbo). If you can get a donor car, I think any of these conversions would be pretty straight forward, not to say that some judicious fad work wouldn't be in order, but at least you would have pretty much all the parts needed, less mounts.

Any way you slice it, sounds like it'll be a really -----'n ride when you're done! Don't forget to keep everyone updated on your progress!

Mike

Turbo 3400 (pushrod) gets my vote, i think that would be perfect for a Delorean! it's fairly compact unlike the 3.4L DOHC and very easy to work on. you could run the engine on modified OBD-1 TGP Turbo 3.1 code & a 7727 ECM, which is speed density 2-bar MAP system; no MAF. very tunable with something like TunerPro RT. a Turbo 3400 with a Getrag 282 5-speed would be fun, easy to work on, and probably a bit cheaper than going with a Northstar (which would also be really cool!). there are some guys on v6z24.com making some serious power with turbocharged 3400s.

btw, was the Delorean's PRV V6 mounted transverse?

-------------------------------
Joshua Mitchell
'98 Buick Regal GS
'91 Dodge Spirit R/T

nBALLS
11-17-2007, 05:06 PM
Turbo the PRV engine, they are quite stout, when you put better pistons in them, the only thing is, I hear the Delorean trans is not up to the type of power that a Turbo PRV engine can make. (input shaft is weak IIRC)

A buddy of mine, Dave Clark built an '83 Volvo 262 with a Turbo'd PRV engine, for another friend of mine, John Lane. It's a Rally car, and I think they have a 2.8 in it, I forget now, lol. They made 501ft/lbs to the wheels on 11psi.

Here is a quick list of mods:
T4
Stock Crank, Stock Rods
Custom JE pistons
Super Duty intercooler
Modified intake
Not sure of the engine management on the car though.
Group A Escort Cosworth front spindles/struts
Former NASCAR Dog box transmission
Ford 9 inch rear w/ moser axles

Here's a few pics from back in 2003: They call the car "The Fire Breathing Monster"

http://nballz.posbbq.com/Pictures/Cars/Rally/DSC00339.JPG
http://nballz.posbbq.com/Pictures/Cars/Rally/DSC00340.JPG
http://nballz.posbbq.com/Pictures/Cars/Rally/DSC00341.JPG
http://nballz.posbbq.com/Pictures/Cars/Rally/DSC00342.JPG
http://www.prorallypix.com/orv02/06-20.JPG

The guy who built the Volvo, Dave Clark, used to own this car and re-bodied it countless times, lol. John Lane is driving BTW:
http://www.davesport.com/rally/images/lane.jpg

amcpacer
11-20-2007, 04:02 AM
Definitely use the 1.0L suzuki turbo 3 cylinder engine like the one in the Chevy sprint turbo. Put a larger turbo on it and better intercooler for more power and that would be the best engine of all. Plus you can not beat the awesome sound of a 3 cylinder engine!

airagitated
11-20-2007, 11:22 PM
I vote on leaving it stock if it's all there. It's a survivor. But if you do decided to mod it, you've got to polish it. Man I've always wanted to do that!! Your BLING factor would be off the charts. That's more BLING than any five people should have a right to own lol.

justa4
11-21-2007, 12:17 AM
Sounds like a really nice car, why would they R title such a loe mileage collector car?

t3rse
11-21-2007, 01:01 PM
Turbo the PRV engine, they are quite stout, when you put better pistons in them, the only thing is, I hear the Delorean trans is not up to the type of power that a Turbo PRV engine can make. (input shaft is weak IIRC)

A buddy of mine, Dave Clark built an '83 Volvo 262 with a Turbo'd PRV engine, for another friend of mine, John Lane. It's a Rally car, and I think they have a 2.8 in it, I forget now, lol. They made 501ft/lbs to the wheels on 11psi.

Here is a quick list of mods:
T4
Stock Crank, Stock Rods
Custom JE pistons
Super Duty intercooler
Modified intake
Not sure of the engine management on the car though.
Group A Escort Cosworth front spindles/struts
Former NASCAR Dog box transmission
Ford 9 inch rear w/ moser axles

Here's a few pics from back in 2003: They call the car "The Fire Breathing Monster"

http://nballz.posbbq.com/Pictures/Cars/Rally/DSC00339.JPG
http://nballz.posbbq.com/Pictures/Cars/Rally/DSC00340.JPG
http://nballz.posbbq.com/Pictures/Cars/Rally/DSC00341.JPG
http://nballz.posbbq.com/Pictures/Cars/Rally/DSC00342.JPG
http://www.prorallypix.com/orv02/06-20.JPG

The guy who built the Volvo, Dave Clark, used to own this car and re-bodied it countless times, lol. John Lane is driving BTW:
http://www.davesport.com/rally/images/lane.jpg

500 ft/lbs on 11 psi...what??!!!

mpgmike
12-03-2007, 02:03 AM
Jeez did I ever get a bunch of stuff wrong. First of all, it's an '82. It has a longitudinal lay-out like an older Toronado, but with the crank pulley facing the rear. There is no room for a transverse mounted anything (not even the 3-cylinder Suzuki). It isn't an R title. It was driven and maintained up until '96 when it got stolen. It was recovered and put into storage. My friend owned it since '84. What else did I get wrong? Well, I just got home with it and it's after midnight. I have to go to NJ for a week of training. I'll get pics up after I get back.

Mike

BadAssPerformance
12-03-2007, 02:30 AM
After you get back from NJ, just go baack in tyyyme and post pics 5 minutes ago! ;) :thumb:

spoolinhard
12-03-2007, 04:47 PM
Considering the magnitude of the project, budget is somewhat tight. We're going to try to keep it under $10 grand. It isn't my car, but the work I do gets my name on the title under the current owner's name. Looking to get some attention at shows with it.

I wanted to stay away cliche' stuff. Everybody with a '68-'70 Charger seems to want to paint it orange with a flag on the roof and an "01" on the side. Guys with the late '70s Trans Ams are painting them black with the gold bird on the hood. The list goes on. I briefly thought about a Time Machine clone, but quickly abandoned it.

Mike


Thats too bad becuase I have a spare flux capacitor if your interested.
lmk
-Kaleb

cordes
12-03-2007, 08:28 PM
After you get back from NJ, just go baack in tyyyme and post pics 5 minutes ago! ;) :thumb:

Killer reference JT. I got a good laugh out of that one. :nod:

Riverratt
12-03-2007, 09:29 PM
I don't think, in its present condition, it would be able to get up to 88 MPH.....

BadAssPerformance
12-03-2007, 11:39 PM
Killer reference JT. I got a good laugh out of that one. :nod:

LOL :thumb:

nBALLS
12-04-2007, 03:57 AM
500 ft/lbs on 11 psi...what??!!!

Found this in the SpecialStage.com Archives:

My memory was not correct, it is a 3.0L, NOT a 2.8.


Dave Clark
05-19-2002, 02:02 AM
Or, why rally tires suck for drag racing!


Well, we took John Lane's Volvo 262 SPE out to Pacific Raceways (used to be called SIR) last night for the import rice boy drags just for giggles. For those who have been hiding under a rock instead of out in the woods getting hit in the head by one flying off his rear tires the Fire Breathing Monster is John's Group 5 Volvo rally car with a 3.0 liter turbocharged V-6 that's been tested on a chassis dyno with 504 ft/lbs of torque at the rear wheels at 4000 rpm at 11psi of boost. Early on in the cars developement the engine broke everything else in the drivetrain so now it sports a twin disc clutch and Jerico 4 speed dog gearbox out of a Winston Cup stock car, a Ford 3/4 ton van driveshaft, and a 9-inch Ford rear end with 35 spline Moser axles and a 3.50 ratio spool. The car also has Ford Escort Cosworth Group A front uprights and struts and big AP brakes, plus magnesium front wheels off a Ford RS200 Group B car. Last night John had it cranked up to 14 psi boost. He just had some old Michelin rally tires on it, the big 17/65-15 ones though.
Anyway, the car was severly traction limited as you can imagine. The first pass John did he smoked the tires all the way through 4th gear all the way down the track! Because of all the wheelspin he only managed a 16.50 ET, but with a 99mph trap speed! He also got a "talking to" from an event official who had concerns with him going sideways all the way down the track (he obviously didn't know anything about rallying!) John tried to explain that he couldn't help it, the wheels were spinning the whole way, besides he always drive that way! Still, they wouldn't let anyone ride with him.
The next run he bogged it off the line to prevent wheelspin, which cost time, but it helped - he manged a 14.50 something ET with a 103mph trap speed. The wheels still spun when the boost kicked in. We kept lowering the air pressure in the rear tires, eventually down to 21psi. The third run wasn't so good, more wheelspin and fishtailing and a 15-something ET,` but another 103mph trapspeed (that's a huge mph for such a slow ET which shows there's a lot of time lost due to wheelspin.)
On the last run I had him do a burnout in the waterbox. He did it in second gear because in first gear the motor just instantly goes to redline. Even in second the tires spun up real fast and the rice boys got a kick out of the bitchin' flames shooting out the tailpipe when it hit the rev limiter. The burnout helped, John finally got a decent launch and managed a 13.50 ET with a 104 mph trap speed, still spinning the wheels and going sideways most of the way down the track.

John had a blast and now is motivated to give it another shot with some real drag slicks. I think there is easily another couple of seconds to be had if we can get the car to hook up. Also, John's reaction times were pretty lousy, partly due to the wheelspin and partly due to his drag racing inexperience. So one of these days we'll go back with some softer rear springs, some proper wrinkle wall drag slicks (maybe some wheelie bars...) and see what the Fire Breathing Monster is really capable of.

-DC
Here is another pic:

http://www.rallybrick.com/imgs/other_rallybricks/john_lane_262/jl_blu_02_plate_lanplt_450.jpg

A little more on topic: Have you decided what you guys are going to do for a power plant?

skitzo_inc
05-19-2008, 07:49 PM
Did this thread just die? I'm wondering what happend with this.
I've only seen one of these cars in real life, and it was awesome. They guy was driving down the street with his doors open and I applauded.

WickedShelby88
05-22-2008, 02:03 AM
There was one for sale back in my hometown of greenfield and sat forever and was selling for 16k which seemed cheap for what it was. Car was in very nice condition. There is a major following for these cars so opinions here and on domestic sites are going to be trivial for the most part. I've heard of twin turbo kits for these cars and they haul A$$.

black86glhs
05-29-2008, 11:03 PM
I know this is reeeeeaaaallllyyy late, but nobody mentioned a Pantera drivetrain.

JeremyL
05-29-2008, 11:51 PM
I know this is reeeeeaaaallllyyy late, but nobody mentioned a Pantera drivetrain.

A Pantera drivetrain is laid out the wrong way. The engine is in front of the transaxle on those. The DeLorean has the engine behind the transaxle ala VW Bug style.

I suppose you could try to make a Pantera drivetrain work if you modified the differential pieces and flopped it around the other way but I'm not sure it'd fit even if you cut up the car. Those ZF transaxles come up for sale quite often.

black86glhs
05-30-2008, 12:16 AM
A Pantera drivetrain is laid out the wrong way. The engine is in front of the transaxle on those. The DeLorean has the engine behind the transaxle ala VW Bug style.

I suppose you could try to make a Pantera drivetrain work if you modified the differential pieces and flopped it around the other way but I'm not sure it'd fit even if you cut up the car. Those ZF transaxles come up for sale quite often.
Your right....I had a brain fart when I thought of it.:rolleyes: What about the drivetrain from an Intrepid? Its similar to the setup in it.

JeremyL
05-30-2008, 01:02 AM
Totally didn't dawn on me till a minute ago.. but a Buick V6 would be a good swap. I know at one time there were adapters to fit them to VW and Corvair transaxles. Of course on those you have to make 'em reverse rotation.

A Grand National motor in a DeLorean would be a wicked ride.

88_pacifica
05-30-2008, 07:51 AM
... a Buick V6 would be a good swap.

A Grand National motor in a DeLorean would be a wicked ride.

Well yeah, a Buick V6 is ALWAYS a good swap... ;) :thumb:

cordes
05-30-2008, 07:29 PM
Has anyone found the pics of the Delorian with the LC2 swap yet? That was an awesome car, and I wouldn't mind seeing them again. I did a search when this thread first came up, but couldn't find anything.

Aries_Turbo
05-30-2008, 10:32 PM
kennedy engineered products makes adapters for darn near any engine to porsche transaxles.... with those you can flip the ring gear from side to side and mount the trans in the rear or in the front of the engine.

Brian

Mopar_Nutz
05-30-2008, 11:55 PM
Wow I missed this thread. Cool car for sure. A friend of mine has one. Couple funny points. He's an autobody painter and owns a stainless car. And his name is Marty :D

Mom'sTurboVan
05-31-2008, 01:44 PM
You completely forgot about the nuclear reaction needed to generate the 1.21 gigawatts of electricity...

JuXsA
05-31-2008, 07:06 PM
I saw a video of a DMC with a 3 liter 3 rotor with all kind of badass stuff in it... but I doubt you could do it for 10k... just drop a 302 in it and call it a day :D

SpiritedShelbys
06-18-2008, 07:26 PM
11K original miles? change all the fluids, lube the chassis, do a show detail and be one of a small handful who has a low mile cool 80's sports car. You won't see another at the stoplight and why ruin it doing an engine swap being a low-mile survivor? Lame people who butcher the survivor cars have no business owning them.

chilort
06-18-2008, 11:16 PM
To me, it is a part of automotive history. Sometimes, history is bad, you know, like the Nazis or anything Ford ever made. In those cases, there is no reason to repeat it and many reasons to try to fix it. In this case, original is so cool. If you were to happen to find one that someone else f'ed up, then go hog wild with that one (that's how I've been working on my '70 Superbee).

contraption22
06-19-2008, 12:16 PM
Give a cool car what it was missing: Balls. Either big cubes, or boost, or both.

badandy
06-19-2008, 01:42 PM
Wow I missed this thread. Cool car for sure. A friend of mine has one. Couple funny points. He's an autobody painter and owns a stainless car. And his name is Marty :D
Damnit that's funny!:lol:

badandy
06-19-2008, 01:51 PM
Lame people who butcher the survivor cars have no business owning them.

Whoa there cowboy:p
If you don't like what he does to his own car than save the hot air and buy it from him since he's so lame...if not let him make his own 1 off custom. It's not what it is worth to everyone else that matters...it's what it is worth to him as the owner.

SpiritedShelbys
06-19-2008, 02:50 PM
I absolutely agree but that opinion is mine to own and I do. If your intention is to do a custom, there are PLENTY which have had use for small sums of money. Those are the platforms from which to mod/alter/custom or do whatever your mind's eye sees. The low mile cars deserve to be forwarded to true collectors who've got preservation at heart. Now I was hasty with my comment but it was to draw attention to the point I was making. Not a finger pointing at any particular person!:thumb:

Reaper1
06-26-2008, 03:20 PM
I'm a prtty big DMC lover. I don't own one YET, but I WILL!

The 2.8 can easily be upgraded to the Premier/Monoco 3.0....all you have to do is swap the bed plates out and you instantly have a bigger engine! The PRV engine is pretty well supported in Europe, and is perfectly caable of making some big power. With that being said, I'd STILL swap it out!

As stated the stock DMC tranny is kinda weak. You can either put a Porsche OR a Lotus tranny in them with slight amounts of work.

As for engine choice...I've been going over this in my head for a WHILE! I even asked about it on another forum, LOL. So far the engines I think I'd like to see in one is the DOHC Chrysler 3.5(turboed), or the newer 4.0 version of it(turboed as well). The next engine on my list is the Nissan 3.5L from the 350Z. That engine just SOUNDS so sweet that I think it would be right at home in a DeLorean. Turbo it of course! LOL After that, LS1 or LS2. They are light, powerful, somewhat efficient and there are GOBS of upgrades that can be done to them! I would sty away from the 3.4L DOHC GM V6...that thing is a giant POS. The 3.8(gen 1 or 2) is a good engine, but I think they are a bit on the heavy side for this project. The Northstar is sweet, but it's been done. Any other V8 I beleive is just too heavy(or expensive as one guy did swap the TT V8 from a Lotus in to one). I thought about a DOHC type 4-banger, but I just don't think that fits the demeanor of the car well. Rotardries are a definate NO.

Anyways, there's my opinion on it!

WickedShelby88
06-27-2008, 01:56 AM
Gotta install the MrFusion, great gas mileage then...

Per BTF 3. "MrFusion powers the time circuits and the flex capacitor, but the internal combustion engine runs off of unleaded gasoline. Gas won't be invented for another X amount of years. We're going to need an alternative"
Had to:thumb:

BigAl
07-06-2008, 10:43 PM
I say TDI VW drivetrain. Souped up. decent milage, capability of making a bunch of power, and VW's are hard to kill.