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86Shelby
10-22-2007, 07:16 PM
TIII, no balance shafts, 2.2 oil pan-the one with the sump in the center.

My commonblock TII disptick is a different length than the TIII, and the tubes won't come close to interchanging. Anyone have any bright ideas?
turbovanmanČ
10-22-2007, 07:49 PM
Stock oil pan?

If so, any 2.2 or 2.5 with BS's will work. When I did my swap, I used my 2.5 dipstick and just used the thermostat mount bracket and bolted it to the intake.
86Shelby
10-23-2007, 01:39 AM
No Balance Shafts. The oil pan is off a base model Shadow with a 2.2; so it's not the stock one for an R/T or a 2.5.
supercrackerbox
10-23-2007, 02:17 AM
Ideal oil level would still be the same I would think, I'd still use the TIII setup.
tryingbe
10-23-2007, 10:55 AM
TII dip stick.
turbovanmanČ
10-23-2007, 12:23 PM
No Balance Shafts. The oil pan is off a base model Shadow with a 2.2; so it's not the stock one for an R/T or a 2.5.

Did it have BS's? If so, just use the tube and dipstick off the donor car. Any BS equipped car/van will work if you use both items. If you new oil pan is the shallow unit, use a 89 and up Omni.

Didn't 89 and up TII's have BS's?????? I can never remember this.
Turbodave
10-23-2007, 05:12 PM
Ray I can't think of a stock dipstick that would work for that situation.

Here's a thought - install the TIII tube (because it clears the intake). Then fill the engine with 3.5 quarts, put the TIII dipstick in and see where it's at (should be around the "add 1qt" mark). If the stock increments aren't correct use a scribe and put a line on the backside of the dipstick at the add mark you just established. Then add another quart to the engine and mark your full line on the dipstick. This is without starting the engine of course and the volumes listed above are w/o fiilter. You could also go 3.25 and 4.25 to reduce the risk of overfilling it, but that's up to you.
Turbodave
10-23-2007, 05:16 PM
Did it have BS's? If so, just use the tube and dipstick off the donor car. Any BS equipped car/van will work if you use both items. If you new oil pan is the shallow unit, use a 89 and up Omni.

Didn't 89 and up TII's have BS's?????? I can never remember this.

Common block 2.2 TBI = no balance shafts
89 Common block 2.2 TII = no blance shafts
90-93 Common block 2.2 TIV and TIII = balance shafts

Ray is running no BS and a 2.2 TBI car pan and pickup, that's all good, less risk of oil starvation this way then a BS pan and pickup without any baffles. His issue is that the dipstick tube from the 8V engine the pan came from won't clear his 16V head/intake.
86Shelby
10-23-2007, 07:08 PM
That's a pretty good idea, Dave. I'm close enough to getting it primed I'll make my own marks once it's full of oil and primed.

I was tired of seeing the oil pressure gauge go low when on the interstate on ramps with the Omni, and didn't want to risk the same thing happening with the R/T. Omni is a 2.5 without balance shafts, no baffled pan. :(
turbovanmanČ
10-23-2007, 07:47 PM
Common block 2.2 TBI = no balance shafts
89 Common block 2.2 TII = no blance shafts
90-93 Common block 2.2 TIV and TIII = balance shafts

Ray is running no BS and a 2.2 TBI car pan and pickup, that's all good, less risk of oil starvation this way then a BS pan and pickup without any baffles. His issue is that the dipstick tube from the 8V engine the pan came from won't clear his 16V head/intake.


Gotcha.

The dipstick will, see my earlier post, ;) :clap: