New M&H slicks at the track

[Stratman]

The M&H slicks were real nice to have on the CSX for the first
time! I could still only pull off 2.00 60' times, but it ran around
8.3's to 8.4's all night and in the last race I put down the following
60'..........2.079
330'........5.476
330 MPH..68.55
1/8.........8.218
MPH........88.43
with solid 22-23 psi of boost, VP109 fuel, and a calibration which was still under construction for the gas.
The CSX was running
84 MPH consistent with the slicks and the previous tune I drove in on. Advancing 1.5 degrees more ignition timing granted another 2 MPH bringing it up to 86 MPH. 1 degree more advance gained another 2 MPH which lead to the 88 MPH run.

My buddy with the Z28 (in the previous thread Z28 calls me out (http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18238))called me out again this time with a 50HP and 75HP shot of Nitrous. He did run an 8.6 sec 1/8th, but I guess it still wasn't enough:thumb: .

My bosses 2007 Corvette run pretty good with 8.6's all night. I'm not sure if he tuned it or not at this point.

Video will be posted soon.

[gasketmaster]

Cool :thumb:

You couldn't get it to leave harder without spinning or ???

[Stratman]

I just looked at the logs and it looks like I just didn't get the time to spool it up enough between the staging lights and the green. Because I was having a blast trying to beat some opponents to the traps I just couldn't wait for the spool up. All runs were launched between 2 and 6 psi boost. 6 psi granted a 2.002 60' with an 8.24 1/8th. A 4 psi launch showed a 2.078 60' but with the 8.21 1/8th. All launches pulled around .74-.78 g's. It takes everything I have locking my body between the seat and the brake pedal to hold the car still at 6 psi boost since the 50 trim T04E/Stage 2 turbo. Also, the N/A power is so much more since the new rings and new head. I believe I've arrived at needing line locks:nod: .

The slicks had 11 psi with no wheel spin at all leaving the line. I wonder if more psi in the tires would help since they were not spinning???

BTW: Thanks for the info, 1st and 2nd felt like 1 single long gear on my first 8.20 run. :thumb:

[t3rse]

manual?

[Stratman]

Manual valve body. A-413

[cordes]

Sorry if I missed it, but what size slicks?

[Stratman]

24.5 x 8.5 x 15 mounted on 6.5" wide Crabs.

[cordes]

Yeah, you should really be able to leave the line with some boost running that size slick. What kind of stall are you running?

[Stratman]

3800 stall. I can pull alot more boost off the line, but they were not holding the lights for very long at all when we staged, plus holding the brake to get the car not to move is becoming a problem. It takes around 2-3 sec to build up to 10 psi at the line at WOT. I really need some line locks.

[shadow88]

Well done. My 1/8th mile on my 12.77 run was 8.19 @85.9, so you should have yourself a 12 second car.

[gasketmaster]

What master cylinder are you running?

[Stratman]

I remember replacing it with an Autozone part for the 87 Shadow with rear disk I think. I can tell you that car stops incredibly fast and stable at high speeds.
When the other lane is already staged, I believe I am trying to boost the car on the first stage light and easing up on the brake enough to move into the second light which makes it very hard to get the same brake pressure to stop the car while in boost. Which master cylinder are you running?

[Ondonti]

You can always camp out at the green light ;)
Unless you are running heads up with your friend or boss. :P

[Stratman]

You can always camp out at the green light ;)
Unless you are running heads up with your friend or boss. :P

LOL, that's exactly what was happening!

[87csx2.4]

There are a couple things you can try to get the 60 better,try advancing the cam a couple degrees as long as it doesnt kill the top end to much.Also if you have a way to pull timing below your stall speed try pulling about 18 to 20 degrees from 2800 to 3500 rpm and believe me that baby will spool like a mad dog.It sounds like the converter may be a little tighter than you think,what kind of rpm are you turing through the traps?what gear ratio?And are you in 2nd or 3rd?

[Stratman]

Finally got some video down. Here's a couple vids:
Z28 Calls me out "2" 22 MB (http://www.turbofreak.com/vids/10-7-07-z28vscsx2.wmv)

400 HP 2007 Corvette vs 87 Shelby CSX 11 MB (http://www.turbofreak.com/vids/10-7-07-csxvscorvette.wmv)

[tvanlant]

People who refer to themselves by their own name crack me up.

[cordes]

People who refer to themselves by their own name crack me up.

Cordes does not appreciate you laughing at people who refer to themselves in the 3ed person. I actually do that all day. Does Mr. Cordes this... does Mr. Cordes that...

[tvanlant]

yeah, but the people in the mental hospital probably don't find it unusual.

[Stratman]

There are a couple things you can try to get the 60 better,try advancing the cam a couple degrees as long as it doesnt kill the top end to much.Also if you have a way to pull timing below your stall speed try pulling about 18 to 20 degrees from 2800 to 3500 rpm and believe me that baby will spool like a mad dog.It sounds like the converter may be a little tighter than you think,what kind of rpm are you turing through the traps?what gear ratio?And are you in 2nd or 3rd?

Converter is known, 3600-3800 stall.
I believe 4700-4800 RPM at the traps at 88 MPH
I believe overall ratio is 3.49
3rd at the traps.

[Stratman]

Here is the fastest run to date in the CSX. I was by myself and completely missed a good chance to sit at the light and spool up. Left the line at 6 psi:
http://www.turbofreak.com/vids/10-7-07-csx-8.218-22psi.wmv

Another run with a different LS1 SS Camaro:
http://www.turbofreak.com/vids/10-7-07-csxvscamaro.wmv

[gasketmaster]

Cool videos :thumb:

You did the right thing by NOT camping at the light against your buddies :)

Cutting a light REALLY counts in an 1/8 mile race :nod:

Try camping at the light once and see how much longer it takes to get it up to 10 psi for the launch ;)

It didn't look like it was trying to roll while you were spooling it up.

[Stratman]

Cool videos :thumb:

You did the right thing by NOT camping at the light against your buddies :)

Cutting a light REALLY counts in an 1/8 mile race :nod:

Try camping at the light once and see how much longer it takes to get it up to 10 psi for the launch ;)

It didn't look like it was trying to roll while you were spooling it up.

Thanks Terry,
It rolled on me at the Z28 calls me out 2 race. That's the only time it actually rolled that night and I think it was just because it was hard to get stoped after I inched into the second stage light while under boost.

The CSX definately seems like it's launching good. I think I need to lay on it hard and not worry about the diff. We'll see how it goes at the 1/4 mile on the 20th!

[87csx2.4]

Converter is known, 3600-3800 stall.
I believe 4700-4800 RPM at the traps at 88 MPH
I believe overall ratio is 3.49
3rd at the traps.What kind of converter is that?Its only figuring to be about 12 to 14% slippage which is not much more than stock.I like to run them about 20 to 25% it keeps the motor up on the cam a lot better.but thats just my 02.

[Stratman]

Hughes performance converter. It was Matt Leshiers personal trans and converter which I had him crack open and loosen it up even more before he sent it. It is real loose down low and fairly efficient up top. He said they try to keep converters around 12% efficient in the upper RPM's.

[Stratman]

I don't guess my boss takes to loosing to a little 4 cylinder that well. When he got to work this morning he told me to grab a broom and sweep the lab every hour, LOL. He sid 6 passes around the lab is an 1/8 mile.:)

[BLUEBALL]

Was it shifting into 3rd finally?

[Stratman]

Yes, I found the combo, LOL. I have to drive to the line in 3rd gear. I'm not sure if that just causes some fluid to be primed for 3rd gear, but it just works. It seems to shift much better when I short shift to 2nd around 4900and shift to 3rd a little sooner than normal. It's pretty cool to watch the 8.21 vid and hear the Shelby sound like it has one long gear.

[Stratman]

My buddy is awesome photographer.

http://www.turbofreak.com/pics_files/csx/csxvsvette.jpg

[gasketmaster]

My buddy is awesome photographer.

http://www.turbofreak.com/pics_files/csx/csxvsvette.jpg


You need to frame that and put it on your desk at work :D

Or it could be your new background on your work computer....LOL!!!


You'd probably end up sweeping the lab quite a bit though :nod:

[Stratman]

LOL, that's what I am doing today. :number1:
My desktop on the PC at work is a good one too. :D

[BLUEBALL]

Good lord paint that window trim and grill.:yuck:

[Stratman]

Don't poke at my deformities!!! :D

Your car is missing an eye ball and has a huge nose!!!

[BLUEBALL]

Aw thats f***ked up.I cant help that.:(
haha


Any pics of red car eh? :confused2:
The vette needs a caption like its sayin "i think i can,I think I can"lol

[Stratman]

Yes, I do have pics of the red car. It's taking a good amount of time when I get home to get all the video and pics ready for posting. I'll post one later tonight.

[BLUEBALL]

Sweet,now get back to work and make some car money!!:)

[Stratman]

See I told you, missing eye ball and huge nose!

http://www.turbofreak.com/omni_pics/omni74.jpg

[BLUEBALL]

Doh! You know its hot!
Thats the last pic by the way, that it will have a matching hood on it. Hood flew up on trailer ride home..Again:mad:

[Stratman]

No way!!!!!!! Man, that is one of the worst things to happen!

[Stratman]

Here is one of your runs with that Turbo Mustang:
http://www.turbofreak.com/vids/10-7-07-omni7680.wmv

[BLUEBALL]

Glad ya caught that one. Only guy to race me all night. :evil:
PS,why the hell do your vids jack my computer at work?!

[turbovanman²]

Thats awesome, your hauling some asZ, :clap:

[Stratman]

Glad ya caught that one. Only guy to race me all night. :evil:
PS,why the hell do your vids jack my computer at work?!

Because I don't like to produce low resolution video and the video card on your work system probably sucks. Try to right click the link and "Save Target As" to the the desktop or "My Documents" then watch it.

That was a great race!

You need to give me the full info on your fastest time slip that night. I think I have the video, but it doesn't show the time.

[93sundance]

People who refer to themselves by their own name crack me up.

Yeah, it reminds me of the wrestler "The Rock" :lol:

[93sundance]

You need to frame that and put it on your desk at work :D

Or it could be your new background on your work computer....LOL!!!


You'd probably end up sweeping the lab quite a bit though :nod:

It is now my new background :thumb:

[Stratman]

It is now my new background :thumb:

Cool!
Here is a great shot my buddy took with his mega wicked Cannon of the slicks wrinkling up.
http://www.mindcritic.com/misc/10_20/IMG_5608.jpg

[gasketmaster]

Cool!
Here is a great shot my buddy took with his mega wicked Cannon of the slicks wrinkling up.

Very Nice :thumb:

[BLUEBALL]

Is it me, or does it look like your 105lb body weighing down the drivers side?:D

[Stratman]

Your missing a "5" in 155,LOL.
I wonder if they will let you run the car by remote?????
I was looking back at the videos watching the passenger side slick grab and stop while the driver side was still spinning. This is going to lead into buying a diff I just know it!

[BLUEBALL]

Your missing a "5" in 155,LOL. !
uhh,sure :D

I was looking back at the videos watching the passenger side slick grab and stop while the driver side was still spinning. This is going to lead into buying a diff I just know it!
:nod: www.Peloquins.com

[BF/STOCKER SPIRIT]

HEY STRATMAN, I HAVE A PROB WITH HOLDING THE SPIRIT AT 3lbs,I STILL LEARNING,AND ONE THING ALOT OF GUYS DO,"INMYSHADOW', IS PUT THE BIGGER CARAVAN, MASTER CYLINDER,AND CALIPERS,ALL A BOLT ON, AND THEY SAY WILL PUT YOUR HEAD THROUGH THE WINDSHIELD, I'LL SEE ,SEE'YA SRAT

[Stratman]

Actually, I found that I don't have a problem holding it back. I just can't boost and inch forward for the second staging lights and apply the brakes fully again. I figured alot of stuff out with the new setup Saturday. Since the last five passes were all consistant at 113 MPH at 26 psi boost, I worked alot on driving the car.

[BLUEBALL]

Thats what your talking about?! Your brakes are VACUUM assist. when you let up some on brakes and push back down with throttle floored,your not making vacuum to help that assist! Headgasket fixed yet for Houston?

[Stratman]

Thats what your talking about?! Your brakes are VACUUM assist. when you let up some on brakes and push back down with throttle floored,your not making vacuum to help that assist! Headgasket fixed yet for Houston?

DUHHHHHH!!!! I've known how a brake booster works since I was a small child, I just thought my Superman calf muscles would overpower 300 ftlbs of torque :D ,LOL

I ran a leakdown test and nothing is wrong. All percentages are within 1% since the last time I checked and no bubbly in the radiator. I forgot about adding some water when I put the new intercooler in last Thursday. I think it just spit out what it didn't want.

[contraption22]

Actually, I found that I don't have a problem holding it back. I just can't boost and inch forward for the second staging lights and apply the brakes fully again. I figured alot of stuff out with the new setup Saturday. Since the last five passes were all consistant at 113 MPH at 26 psi boost, I worked alot on driving the car.


A nice big vacuum canister and a check valve between it and the intake manifold will help with that!