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DC Turismo
08-19-2007, 03:42 PM
I figured I would make this thread up for everyone who has a restored/original/work in progress 89 CSX. It'd be a good way to list what's going on with your project and tell the story about your car, especially after seeing Ray's find out in NE.

Right now, I'm simply gathering parts for my CSX. I found a mint pair of illuminated mirror sunvisors and got all of the wiring needed to install it into my CSX when the time comes (it's only the overhead light wiring extended, so nothing too major). In addition, I found a nice dark blue center console that opens and closes smoothly and slowly, like it was never even opened before! I'll be dying that when I dye some other interior parts down the road.

So, let's get this thread rolling w/ some pics, info, plans, questions, etc. :thumb:

Here are some basic questions I have:

What is the paint code or color name for the gold on the Fiberides?
Is anyone's interior taillight panel not cracked?! lol...
What types of things have you seen on other's CSX-VNT's that caught your eye compared to other's?
What would you rather see, a restored CSX exactly to factory specs., or a slightly modified one say, with the basics of a 2.5/3 inch exhaust and a vacuum block?

1FastCSX289
08-19-2007, 04:13 PM
I bought my CSX a little over a year ago from "theCSXmachine" over on turbododge.com. I had it shipped out of California sight unseen. :yuck: I was taking a bit of a risk, but I figured by the list of parts he had into the car, I could get my money back by parting it out. When I got the car, I was pretty pleased. It was in great condition visually.....NO RUST (something unheard of in the NE). And it had a great deal of performance work done to it. The bad side was that, first of all, it was unfinished (which I knew), and second of all, many of the expensive Shelby parts were sold off long ago. Its not easy picking up on the backside of someone else's project, especially when they didnt do everything the way you would have done. But, I was up to the task.

My main goal for the car was to have a nice looking (almost stock appearing) CSX that went like a bat out of hell. So, my first order of business was getting it running. That was pretty easy......I just fixed up some wiring with the SDS, did some tuning, and she was running. Afterwards, I pulled the whole drivetrain and went through the motor. I had a head ported by a local machinist, bought a custom intake from a TM member, and added a Devilsown progressive alky kit. I got it all back together and running (with a few mishaps :eyebrows: ) and now I am in the process of tuning it. It still runs very rich, but I am getting there.

On the visual side of things, I had the rear skirt repainted (it was cracked and peeling pretty bad) and I located and installed the original "Shelby" logo seats (had racing seats in it when I got it). I recently bought a set of fiberide wheels which need to be refinished before I put them on the car. I still need to get the front grill and airdam, but I am holding off until I have more $$ to dump into it.

When I sold my WS6 last year, I did so partly to get ahold of a Shelby that I could modify to suit my taste. I wanted either an 87 GLHS or 87/89 CSX. So far, I am pretty happy with this one and I am pretty motivated to work towards my goal of a stock appearing, 11 second, 89 CSX. Im hoping by next summer the car will be done.

dodgeshadowchik
08-20-2007, 09:48 AM
After years of searching for a CSX, I currently own CSX #79. This is a non-recaro car. The car is complete with all shelby items and entirely stock; approximently 118,000 miles.

I bought the car from Cindy over at FWDperformance. Some of the people here caught onto that immediatly with the first few pictures I posted of it. :) It was not a Texas car however, so there's some rust on it. It was originally from NJ. The floorboard really only has one bad spot which will be addressed this week. The spare tire well is the worst of it with a hole and more areas where a hole will emerge at ant time. Lol! I'm going to try to locate an entire trunk from a donor Shadow and just repair it that way. For now, the car is going to get un undercoat of POR-15. Overall, for what appears to be a near daily driven northern car, the underside is really not all that bad. I think it can be saved! :) I won't lie, tho... I hate doing rust repairs. The car is worth saving in my book, so I'll go through with it.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/2678000-2678999/2678826_15_full.jpg

Here's the worst of it (spare wheel well):
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/2678000-2678999/2678826_16_full.jpg

Other than that, the car's in pretty decent shape for being 18 years old. I recently ordered a rear bumper for it and the front bumper is next up. I also took the fiberrides off for some aftermarket wheels. The fiberrides are going into storage. ;) The car does need window belt moldings. I am willing to pay top dollar for a set of those!! After I collect all the pieces it needs replaced and do the rust repairs the car will then be repainted; including the engine bay. The engine area will also be throughly cleaned up.

Here's some more pics... (even though these are also posted in my other thread.)
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/2678000-2678999/2678826_3_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/2678000-2678999/2678826_12_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/2678000-2678999/2678826_10_full.jpg

Oh, I also personally love to see restored CSX's that remain in stock form or modifications that do not drastically alter what the car was originally. I'm one of those people that belive in leaving numbered cars alone and using base models for the heavy modifications. For mine, I'd like keep the car VNT. I'll probably run a T-28 VNT with a 2-1/2 in exhaust and possibly a mild port on the head and intake.

DC Turismo
08-20-2007, 04:05 PM
Great stories! I'll post mine shortly. I saw #289 at SDAC and thought it was pretty cool. Glad to see you got your rims finally squared away as well as the front seats. The CSX from Cindy is a great project nonetheless. It looks fantastic as it sits!

But wow, only two additional posters! Where is everyone else?

dodgeshadowchik
08-21-2007, 08:20 PM
Hey DC: The webpage is off to a nice start! :) Let me know if you need any more pics/photoshops ect. I see that you used a few of mine already; but I'd love to help out any way I can on a CSX project! lol!

I'm sure you've seen this already, but if you haven't:
http://www.xmission.com/~dempsey/shelby/sheldod9.htm

1FastCSX289
08-21-2007, 08:58 PM
Website looks good. Keep it up.

quantum
09-12-2007, 08:34 AM
I own 89 CSX #91. I bought it a few months ago, but I've been in the turbo mopar community for about 3 years. I started with a 90 Turbo van (sold to 1FastCSX289), an SRT-4 (totaled by someone running from the police, pics are nasty looking), and a 90 Daytona VNT C/S (1 of 21 made, sold to a friend to get funds for the CSX).

Currently the car is pretty stock, except for the removal of the stock intake, 2.5" exhaust, and a sunroof. It does need a bit of TLC in areas, I need a new headliner (though I'm thinking of waiting on that till I decided if I'm going to have the roof reskinned to get rid of the after market sunroof), I need to put a water pump in it at some point, the seats could use a good cleaning and the driver side seat bolsters should get new fabric (if I find a upholstery guy willing to try to reuse the shelby cloth), the front clip needs to be repainted, the rear bumper cover is looking a little wavy, I need a new trunk pan and the "cardboard" carpet pannel that makes up the floor, etc. Besides those items I am also planning on dropping the stock drive train out of it (79,000 miles) and setting it aside so I can always put it back in; then building something nasty for racing. Also I’ll probably buy a set of decent looking aluminum rims to cruse and race with so I don't mess up the fiber rides.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/quantum007/CSXPics002.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/quantum007/CSXPics001.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/quantum007/CSXPics003.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/quantum007/CSXPics005.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/quantum007/CSXPics008.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/quantum007/CSXPics010.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/quantum007/CSXPics011.jpg

1FastCSX289
09-12-2007, 09:15 AM
That thing looks awesome. You did pretty well with that car.

dodgeshadowchik
09-12-2007, 12:14 PM
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/2678000-2678999/2678826_17_full.jpg

Here's mine with "Flik" aftermarket rims. I also wanted to put those fiberrides into storage!

CSX321
09-12-2007, 03:56 PM
Just saw this thread! I acquired #321 about a year and a half ago from California. I also have '87 #321. Trying to get a lock on my forum name. :D

It's a Recaro car, and all the Shelby items are present. It's stock, except that I have some Shadow seats in it and snowflake wheels on it right now. The Fiberides are not bad but have some a couple of gouges. The rear Shelby seats are good, but the fronts need new foam for the bolsters. A couple of very small holes in the Shelby fabric, but not bad. No rust, but quite a few small dings on it. Front airdam is not on and is in many pieces. The rear has a (repairable) crack.

I replaced the carpet and headliner in the spring, and pulled the engine to replace gaskets and a freeze plug. Then I shelled out $$ to get the AC working. I have a brand new set of window moldings. I bought them years ago when they were still available from the dealer, intending to put them on the '87. I think I'll use them for the '89, though, instead.

It's being driven daily right now. My oldest daughter has been driving it to school, and my dad and I drove it to Pittsburg for SDAC-17:
http://www.sdac.org/sdac_photo_pages/car_show_17/images/17066701.jpg

1FastCSX289
09-12-2007, 07:57 PM
http://www.sdac.org/sdac_photo_pages/car_show_17/images/17066701.jpg


You let your daughter drive it to school? Crazy!

Nice car though. Lots of potential there because its so rust free.

And......thats a nice car next to you in the pic.;)

DC Turismo
09-12-2007, 08:06 PM
How ironic is it that on the EXACT day I drove out east to get my CSX, my buddy Brian called me on the way home telling me about CSX#91 that his fellow Focus guru told him was for sale and knew I'd be interested. I'm glad to see it went to someone who will care for it though!

Thanks for posting in here as well Dave! Do you have any leads on a spare set of window fuzzies to get fixed up with by chance??

CSX321
09-12-2007, 10:03 PM
Do you have any leads on a spare set of window fuzzies to get fixed up with by chance??
Nothing yet. There was a nice set on one in the local junk yard...but of course it was a '94. :( I did get a better driver's door seal from that car, though, that is in the '89 now. Much less wind noise than when I drove it out to SDAC. :)

Today I picked up two new plastic thingies that attach to the back edge of the side windows so they will roll up and down. The dealer had two of them in stock! I was shocked!

Oh, I forgot, I also replaced the valve stem seals on the '89 a while back to fix a slight smoking problem it had.

This past weekend I fired up the '87 CSX for the first time in months. It idled well, but I need to replace the wrist pin bushings, and the brake pedal goes to the floor. After I shut it off I heard a bubbly hissing sound and found a pool of gas boiling away on the intake! Time to swap in the fuel rail and regulator I bought at SDAC.

CSXVNT461
10-01-2007, 12:16 AM
Wow some very nice cars in here.....
Here is mine. Its number 461 and I found it sitting in the weeds with a blown head gasket. It was also missing the entire ground effects set and the fibrerides. All of the other Shelby items were present except the mobile1 sticker. The body was really banged up all over but nothing major. It has no rust anywhere accept some slight scale inside the hatch lip. The interior was really dirty with red clay dust, mud and spills all over the seats, but not in bad shape under all the dirt after a good steam cleaning. Even the Shelby floor mats were there but they are worn. Here are some pictures of exactly how i found it.
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/riftlaker/csxvnt461found.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/riftlaker/csxvnt461found1.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/riftlaker/csxvnt461found2.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/riftlaker/csxvnt461found3.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/riftlaker/csxvnt461found5.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h117/riftlaker/csxvnt461found6.jpg

I now have the complete ground effects set and all I’m missing is the fibrerides and mobile1 sticker. I have had the car for around six months and it is now being torn down for restoration. I’m not sure how far I’ll go with it or how long it will take yet but I’m meticulous and every time I work on it the restoration gets further and further in depth……. at this rate the body will be on its way for sandblasting and paint in a few years. lol

I bought an 89 ES donor for miscellaneous parts. It has all power options that I plan on transplanting into the CSX, along with the power bulge hood. I know its not OE but its all reversible.

Regards
Pat

turbokid
10-03-2007, 10:17 AM
My dad has an 89 csx, 70,000 original miles that has been hit *HARD* in the front passenger side. The interior is flawless and it has 2 good fiber rides (if anybody needs some make an offer, they aren't going back on) The ground effects in the front are all good. The grill is cracked and it really needs a side frame rail. Have the bulge hood and a front half of a sundance for frame rail and fenders. Needs a drivers side window (some idiot broke the window when the passenger side was unlocked to get to a cheap aftermarket radio) Runs Great and will look really good if we ever get it finished. Has some aftermarket stuff done to it (haven't looked to much into all of that) and hopefully by next year it will be up and moving.

DC Turismo
11-12-2007, 01:02 PM
Very cool posts guys. Glad to see two more are being saved. I like the idea of the power bulge hood myself, and would probably replace my flat one if it wasn't nice.

I also think it's cool about the power options you are placing into yours Pat. Are you talking windows and the whole bit?

And Kid, my driver's side window is fouled up as well. It looks to me like they locked the keys in the car at some point and tried prying out on the door to get it open, bending the top corner by the b-pillar. In the end though, it looks like they did something with the window arm that it sits on, causing the window to sit crooked and not go down more than two inches. That'll be another thing needing replaced, argh.

What would someone think of adding a tilt wheel column? It feels neat as is without the tilt option, like a little race car, but at the same time it'd make for a comfier drive I would think? Thoughts?

Kid, check your PM's :thumb:

turbokid
11-22-2007, 12:03 AM
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16235&page=2
pix of the wrecked csx =(

Scottmon
11-28-2007, 04:00 PM
Greetings all!

I don't know if any of you were following the thread under the eBay and Ads subforum in the Lounge, but I just bought CSX #009. Will definitely need mechanical help and a few Shelby items but on the whole the body is very solid and straight. Original motor is gone, replaced with a more-than-likely dead TI. Original 555 is trashed, case and all. At least I have a good '89 TII engine and A555 to go in it. Will need two Fiberides, Shelby valvecover, front airdam and the dash plaque. All the other Shelby stuff is there. If anyone could give me some leads on the Shelby parts I'd sure appreciate it. I know I'm out of luck on the dash plaque, unless Shelby licenses repros.

I figured I'd christen CSX #009 as "The Roach" as it'll need some work, LOL

1FastCSX289
11-28-2007, 08:21 PM
Greetings all!

I don't know if any of you were following the thread under the eBay and Ads subforum in the Lounge, but I just bought CSX #009. Will definitely need mechanical help and a few Shelby items but on the whole the body is very solid and straight. Original motor is gone, replaced with a more-than-likely dead TI. Original 555 is trashed, case and all. At least I have a good '89 TII engine and A555 to go in it. Will need two Fiberides, Shelby valvecover, front airdam and the dash plaque. All the other Shelby stuff is there. If anyone could give me some leads on the Shelby parts I'd sure appreciate it. I know I'm out of luck on the dash plaque, unless Shelby licenses repros.

I figured I'd christen CSX #009 as "The Roach" as it'll need some work, LOL


You know the airdam can be bought from Kaminari, right? The rest pops up here and there. I pieced together almost all of the shelby stuff on my car. Mine didnt even have seats. The only thing left is the valve cover (which come up all the time for 150 bucks) and the front airdam (which can still be bought). So, it can be done. Good luck!:thumb:

Scottmon
11-28-2007, 08:58 PM
Yup, I know about Kaminari. Will probably wind up going that route.

I'm in no rush to get the car done, so I'll just pick up the parts here and there. I have plenty of projects in line ahead of it right now.


You know the airdam can be bought from Kaminari, right? The rest pops up here and there. I pieced together almost all of the shelby stuff on my car. Mine didnt even have seats. The only thing left is the valve cover (which come up all the time for 150 bucks) and the front airdam (which can still be bought). So, it can be done. Good luck!:thumb:

DC Turismo
11-29-2007, 09:25 PM
Here's a link to the gentleman's site who own's #007. Nice car!

http://www.rsx1.com/csxvnt1.html

DC Turismo
12-02-2007, 08:21 PM
Hey guys, do any of you know who owns this car?

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/1975000-1975999/1975227_1_full.jpg

Reason I as, recognize anything unique? #390 is its number.

DC Turismo
12-02-2007, 09:19 PM
Website now defunct.

1FastCSX289
12-03-2007, 12:32 AM
Hey guys, do any of you know who owns this car?

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/1975000-1975999/1975227_1_full.jpg

Reason I as, recognize anything unique? #390 is its number.

I would say is unique because its still has an uncracked front air dam and what looks like original paint and body work. Looks like no windshield decal (which may be a replacement window). Also looks like a wide tire car (but they may have been added).

JeremyL
12-03-2007, 12:53 AM
Hey guys, do any of you know who owns this car?

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/1975000-1975999/1975227_1_full.jpg

Reason I as, recognize anything unique? #390 is its number.

Hmm.. what's up with those openings in the front fascia?

DC Turismo
12-03-2007, 01:05 AM
Hmm.. what's up with those openings in the front fascia?

;) :thumb: That's what I was hoping someone would catch. I've only seen that style front airdam on the DC Yellowbird car! Unless it's something custom on their part, for I don't believe an air dam with foglight cutouts was ever offered?

CSX321
12-03-2007, 10:23 AM
I believe it is an aftermarket piece from Erebuni. That is probably also the source of the rear covers with an exhaust cutout. See http://www.erebunicorp.com/ge/doshadow.htm.

Turbodave
12-03-2007, 02:53 PM
David is correct, that is an Ebruni front air dam. Evan Fino had one on his old CSX before it was wrecked. http://www.shelbydodge.8m.com/custom.html

DC Turismo
12-03-2007, 05:01 PM
Too bad they don't make them anymore :( :(

Scottmon
12-03-2007, 05:17 PM
Too bad they don't make them anymore :( :(

If someone has a good one to copy from you can always make a fiberglass mold and make new ones.

Tempting to try it myself, as the Kaminari front airdams don't have mounting studs. Be easy to incorporate those when laying up the fiberglass in the mold.

DC Turismo
12-03-2007, 06:56 PM
I'll have to keep an eye out for one, as well as the rear air dam with the cutout... When did this company halt the production of these pieces, any ideas?

CoolV300C
12-03-2007, 07:05 PM
It looks ok on that car, but not great. The original style looks much more aggressive I think. I wouldn't work to hard to recreate this one.

DC Turismo
12-03-2007, 07:07 PM
Yeah, I agree simply because the body line above the foglights wraps in too close to the car I feel. Regardless, I wrote them anyways to see what the deal is (if they woudl still do orders or reproduce them in the future). Why not investigate, right? :)

CoolV300C
12-03-2007, 07:15 PM
If they have the molds, it would be pretty easy I am sure. Judging by the final price of them on the website link posted above, I don't think there was much demand for them.

If someone is laying some glass, copying the yellow bird ground fx would get some demand I bet.

DC Turismo
12-03-2007, 07:24 PM
It sure would!

CoolV300C
12-03-2007, 08:04 PM
Haven't seen that shot of the car before. Now that is a good looking Shadow!

DC Turismo
12-05-2007, 08:36 PM
Erebuni replied that they still have one set of the sideskirts left if anyone wants them. That is the last of anything they have for the Shadow, even molds - they were destroyed after production ran out.

Updated the MEDIA section of www.1989csx.homestead.com if you want to check it out!

CSX321
12-05-2007, 10:23 PM
Haven't seen that shot of the car before. Now that is a good looking Shadow!

Me, either. Can I put that on www.shelbycsx.com and credit you, Billy?

DC Turismo
12-06-2007, 12:19 AM
Sure! I don't remember where I got it from exactly but post it on there for all to see!

quantum
12-06-2007, 05:40 PM
Erebuni replied that they still have one set of the sideskirts left if anyone wants them. That is the last of anything they have for the Shadow, even molds - they were destroyed after production ran out.

Updated the MEDIA section of www.1989csx.homestead.com if you want to check it out!

I called to try and pick them up, but he said that set that is left will only fit the 4 door shadow. Maybe it can be modified to fit a 2 door; but I don't have the skills necessary to try it.

DC Turismo
12-06-2007, 07:37 PM
I called to try and pick them up, but he said that set that is left will only fit the 4 door shadow. Maybe it can be modified to fit a 2 door; but I don't have the skills necessary to try it.

Ah, see they didn't tell me that detail.

Oh well! Maybe someone who does have the skills will make them work :clap:

1FastCSX289
12-07-2007, 09:12 AM
I called to try and pick them up, but he said that set that is left will only fit the 4 door shadow. Maybe it can be modified to fit a 2 door; but I don't have the skills necessary to try it.


Yea, I called too. Same story to me. They must be saying "What the heck?.....why is everyone asking about Shadow GFX?" :lol:

I cant understand why a company would ever destroy molds.

Turbodave
12-07-2007, 11:31 AM
Yea, I called too. Same story to me. They must be saying "What the heck?.....why is everyone asking about Shadow GFX?" :lol:

I cant understand why a company would ever destroy molds.

It gets to a point where nobody is buying the product and the molds are just overhead taking up space. If they kept every old mold they would probably need a huge warehouse to keep them in, which would cost them money, and I doubt they would get an equal return on that. For the 5 or 10 people that would want something like this is just not worth it from a financial perspective.

That said I wish they would sell the molds rather than destroy them, put them on ebay or something. (I've got room in my attic).

1FastCSX289
12-07-2007, 11:49 AM
It gets to a point where nobody is buying the product and the molds are just overhead taking up space. If they kept every old mold they would probably need a huge warehouse to keep them in, which would cost them money, and I doubt they would get an equal return on that. For the 5 or 10 people that would want something like this is just not worth it from a financial perspective.

That said I wish they would sell the molds rather than destroy them, put them on ebay or something. (I've got room in my attic).

Maybe I just dont have a good perspective on how big a mold is. And yea, why DESTROY them? I guess they dont want others copying their work?

STEVE B
12-08-2007, 12:52 AM
I bought number 28 in Aug. The car had been repainted, but the car had not been put back together. The back bumper was off. The rear wing needs to be painted. I have been putting it back togther. I have the back bumper on. I put the decals on it. I also took the wheels off and put some three spokes on it. That I had from my 94 Shadow that I owned a while back. I have come across some electrcial problems. So I am going to pull the dash and replace the dash wire harness. I am also going to add power mirriors to it. Here are some pictures of it shortly after I got it. Also I have a question about getting tires dismounted from the orignal wheels. Can a regular tire place dismount them or do i need to take them to a special place?
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/StevenABirk/DSC01598.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/StevenABirk/DSC01600.jpg

cordes
12-08-2007, 01:07 AM
Any tire place should be able to do them. Just make sure they use a "euro" or "touchless" machine, and they are not total idiots. The latter is much more difficult to find than the former.

CoolV300C
12-08-2007, 08:09 AM
Not everyone will tough them though. My local GoodYear place would not do them. I had to go to a custom wheel shop they referred me to.

1FastCSX289
12-08-2007, 11:43 AM
. The latter is much more difficult to find than the former. :lol:

Yea.....be careful. Make sure you explain they are a composite wheel. Talk slowly. If the machine is set up correctly, there wont be an issue.


Oh....and NICE car!

quantum
12-08-2007, 01:44 PM
Great paint on that CSX.....very nice car.

DC Turismo
12-08-2007, 02:37 PM
What name brand front turn signal lenses did these cars come factory with? Just curious, as I was looking at mine last weekend and, can't remember the name exactly, but it started with 'Gr'... Just want to make sure if they're correct or not. Take a look at yours if you can guys and LMK :)

1FastCSX289
12-08-2007, 05:54 PM
Billy......Ill look next time im in the garage.

Heres another CSX question.......

I am in the process of putting the correct nose on my car this winter. I got the grill and the new Kaminari front bumper. The CSX grill is just an insert that bolts to the headlight support like on the Sundance (Shadow was one piece in 89). OK...question is coming soon.....I bought my car with the headlight support, but no grill insert. On the headlight support, there is a vertical bracket that runs up and down right in the middle of the grill opening. It appears to be painted black. Is this what they (Shelby) did to "hide" the support in the middle of grill opening (by painting it)? Or is the one I have not correct and there is a CSX specific headlight support that deletes that bracket ......and I am just missing it?

If you dont know what the heck I am talking about, LMK and I will take pics.

DC Turismo
12-08-2007, 06:16 PM
Take a pic, but out of memory, I know that my car has a beam-like piece of metal going straight up and down in the middle of the grille, but it's painted red. I don't think they'd have gone and tried hiding anything since they were just using that grille to get some ram air. I kinda like the metal piece in there, otherwise it'd be too perfect. Kinda reminds me of a Cuda, don't ask me why though haha



AND an additional question, what are you guys doing for mounting studs with these new Kaminari front ends??? They told me to put screws through the front of it? :yuck: :confused: :rolleyes: :eek:

quantum
12-08-2007, 06:39 PM
Mine has the support in the middle as well, it's painted red though.

My lenses start with a SAE IP. Hope that helps

1FastCSX289
12-08-2007, 07:36 PM
Thanks guys. Looks like the black paint was a "custom" add on.

As for mounting the airdam, Billy, I have no freakin idea. I was wondering the same thing myself. I was wondering why they didnt mold the original nubs on the inside. The bumper cover that it attaches to has the holes....sure would be nice to use them. Two ideas I had were to epoxy and fiberglass the nubs on in the correct position, but this would be a HUGE PITA to line everything up and get them right. My other idea was just to use some panel adhesive and permanently bond the airdam to the bumper. I dont know though. What do you think?

DC Turismo
12-08-2007, 07:43 PM
Sean

What I'm thinking of doing, since my car will be down to the bare shell practically when I go to redo it, is to lay the air dam face down on the ground so that the sides of it that attach to the front of the fenders are up in the air. Then, lay the bumper cover itself face down into the air dam and trace the original circles that the nubs had gone through onto the new air dam. This will allow for an easy way to create the needed pattern on the back of the air dam.

After that though, just like you said, I have no clue what the best route will be to attach the needed nubs. Looking at the rear air dams that Johnny made, he had flat headed bolts molded into them that will slide through the holes and those who received these will just have to screw 10mm? nuts onto it once it's through the rear cover. I really don't understand why Kaminari didn't mold the nubs on though, that pisses me off for the amount of money we paid. I didn't notice they weren't on there though until I think quantum it was who brought the topic up. I haven't even unwrapped mine from the bubble wrap it came in.

Epoxy and fiberglass onto the same type of bolts may be the best bet though. I'll take a pic of the rear air dam from Johnny tomorrow maybe to show what I mean by the mounting studs he used.


Glad to see that this thread is being used how it is. Sure is nice to converse about this stuff with people who have a good knowledge of it and are going through the same thing.

1FastCSX289
12-08-2007, 08:07 PM
I had a similiar idea for locating the nubs, but the attaching will be the hard part. I really dont want that thing to fall off!!!:yuck:

CoolV300C
12-08-2007, 08:20 PM
There will be a lot of surface area on the bumper cover where the Kaminari air dam will be in close contact, or touching. If you lay down a lot of silicone on the bumper, and put the air dam on it, it will hold really well.

A while ago, I had a shadow where I attached an airdam and rear cover like that. I got rear-ended a few years later, and the rear valence did not get damaged, so I wanted to get it off. It was a PITA to get it removed, the silicone held like a son-of-a------.

As long as you don't plan on removing it later, you are fine. If anyone is in a state that requires front plates, those screws can hold up the middle part good too.

1FastCSX289
12-08-2007, 08:59 PM
There will be a lot of surface area on the bumper cover where the Kaminari air dam will be in close contact, or touching. If you lay down a lot of silicone on the bumper, and put the air dam on it, it will hold really well.

A while ago, I had a shadow where I attached an airdam and rear cover like that. I got rear-ended a few years later, and the rear valence did not get damaged, so I wanted to get it off. It was a PITA to get it removed, the silicone held like a son-of-a------.

As long as you don't plan on removing it later, you are fine. If anyone is in a state that requires front plates, those screws can hold up the middle part good too.

Silicone? as in RTV? Thats an interesting idea.

And I didnt think of that license plate thing.......NY SUCKS. That plate will RUIN the look of that new airdam!:mad:

CoolV300C
12-08-2007, 09:21 PM
Yeah, just those tubes you can get at the auto store. Trust me, it holds. The front air dam was on my old shadow for 8+ years before it was wrecked. It wasn't going anywhere.

As for the lack of nubs, they weren't making reproduction parts for CSX owners. They were selling kits to anybody with a shadow. If they had nubs on it, the majority of their buyers wouldn't be able to put it on since shadows did not have those holes. Nowadays, the only interest is from CSX owners, but back when these were really selling, it was different.

But screws in the wheel well, liscense plate screws up front, and silicone, you are set.

DC Turismo
12-09-2007, 03:12 AM
Sean, can you also snap a pic. of the vehicle sticker that is on the driver's door? I need to see if it's exactly like an 89 Shadow, for mine is gone.

1FastCSX289
12-09-2007, 10:03 AM
Sean, can you also snap a pic. of the vehicle sticker that is on the driver's door? I need to see if it's exactly like an 89 Shadow, for mine is gone.

Yea, I will try to get down there later today.

DC Turismo
12-11-2007, 11:29 PM
Anyone know of this guy?

http://roadgems.com/membcars/shawncsx.htm

Dam georgeous car!

turbokid
12-13-2007, 11:19 AM
question: How can you find the number of your car w/o the plaque?

Turbodave
12-13-2007, 12:00 PM
question: How can you find the number of your car w/o the plaque?

Send me the last 6 digits of the VIN# and I can look it up for you.

turbokid
12-13-2007, 02:56 PM
sweet will do next time i go to the yard. Maybe i can locate the plaque for it

87ShelbyZ
12-14-2007, 07:48 PM
I have 89 VNT CSX number 209... and the front nose piece is turning a purplish color lol and it was pretty dirty when I got it as well.

quantum
12-19-2007, 10:35 PM
Did the 89 have a Mobil 1 plaque? If so where was it?

DC Turismo
12-20-2007, 07:07 PM
I have seen two pics. of 89s with the Mobile 1 plaque on the rad support to the left of the Shelby Whittier Engine Code like this:

http://www.shelbycsx.com/history/birthday/birthdaymotor.jpg

That is where I plan on putting mine once its complete.

1FastCSX289
12-20-2007, 08:39 PM
Wow. Who's 16V CSX is that? Thats what I want to do with mine eventually.

DC Turismo
12-20-2007, 11:24 PM
That is Mark Fink's. That motor is the original motor that came in the Birthday car that Cindy now owns. Pretty sweet!

1FastCSX289
01-05-2008, 06:25 PM
Just an update on the progress of my CSX.......I got the bumper and grill installed on the car. Heres a pic:

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6773&stc=1&d=1199571825

For more pics, check out the thread I made:
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?p=254151#post254151

cordes
01-05-2008, 06:27 PM
That looks great. It must feel wonderful to look at that and know that you did it yourself.

1FastCSX289
01-05-2008, 06:31 PM
That looks great. It must feel wonderful to look at that and know that you did it yourself.

Thanks!

Its not perfect, but im pretty happy with it. Cant complain for what little ive got into it (time and $$).

STEVE B
01-06-2008, 03:12 AM
Here is a update on my car. I have the dash pulled out to replace the dash harness. I am having trouble finding the correct one. I got one from a 88 turbo Shadow. It is missing one plug for the heater box. I do not know what is for. Then I found a 89 Shadow at the junkyard and pulled it. It was just a regular Shadow and guess what no plug for the message center and lights for the turbo gauge. I get a little quicker pulling the dash now. You need a power screw driver. Tons of phillip head screws. Also anybody know why they don't paint the metal backing? Here are some pictures of my battles.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/StevenABirk/DSC01873.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/StevenABirk/DSC01872-1.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/StevenABirk/DSC01871.jpg

DC Turismo
01-06-2008, 03:31 AM
Looks great Sean! Nice IC in there too hahaha :evil:

Steve, probably didn't paint the backing piece because most never see it anyways so why waste the cost of paint on it? lol... ANyhow, what is wrong with your dash harness to begin with? And if you got a good harness out of an 89 Shadow, and your message center area wiring works, why not just splice it into the harness you got from the Shadow? That'd be worst case scenario.

What kind of plug are you talking about on the 88 harness though?

1FastCSX289
01-06-2008, 10:11 AM
Looks great Sean! Nice IC in there too hahaha :evil:



|Thanks! Thats actually the Griffin aluminum radiator. The IC can be seen in the lower part of this pic.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6777&stc=1&d=1199628694

rich tideswell
01-06-2008, 02:10 PM
I have the dash pulled out to replace the dash harness. I am having trouble finding the correct one. I got one from a 88 turbo Shadow. It is missing one plug for the heater box. I do not know what is for. Then I found a 89 Shadow at the junkyard and pulled it. It was just a regular Shadow and guess what no plug for the message center and lights for the turbo gauge. Tons of phillip head screws. Also anybody know why they don't paint the metal backing?

The metal dash support and alot of other bits and pieces you'll never see are left bare metal as a cost savings, it may only save a company $0.02 per piece per car but times that by the number of cars produced per year equals some higher up managers bonus.

Dash harness: you'll need a one from an 89 turbo car

briceturbosports
01-11-2008, 01:27 PM
;) :thumb: That's what I was hoping someone would catch. I've only seen that style front airdam on the DC Yellowbird car! Unless it's something custom on their part, for I don't believe an air dam with foglight cutouts was ever offered?

i have one thats whats going on my vert :thumb:

DC Turismo
01-11-2008, 03:52 PM
Awesome Greg! Are you doing CSX-VNT GFX on it?

DC Turismo
01-13-2008, 02:03 AM
Does anyone have the part number for the black line that connects at the top of the headlight on the backside of adjustment screw and loops downwards to underneath the headlight on another type of screw? It looks like a vacuum line but has threads inside it? I removed the grille from my car today to put into safe keeping and both of those broke when taking the headlights out (the threads came out with the screws).

rich tideswell
01-13-2008, 01:17 PM
Does anyone have the part number for the black line that connects at the top of the headlight on the backside of adjustment screw and loops downwards to underneath the headlight on another type of screw? It looks like a vacuum line but has threads inside it? I removed the grille from my car today to put into safe keeping and both of those broke when taking the headlights out (the threads came out with the screws).

looks like you want #4, i dont have the pn but it's 16.10msrp and used from 89-94

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/rtideswell/PK87045.gif

DC Turismo
01-13-2008, 01:30 PM
OK cool so it's nothing specific for the 89s. I'll have my parts guy find the part number from looking at this diagram, thanks Rich!

Does anyone know the proper way to take the headlights out without ruining that piece? How about reinstalling them, is it just as difficult?

rich tideswell
01-13-2008, 02:31 PM
OK cool so it's nothing specific for the 89s. I'll have my parts guy find the part number from looking at this diagram, thanks Rich!

Does anyone know the proper way to take the headlights out without ruining that piece? How about reinstalling them, is it just as difficult?

No, not at all. Same headlamps on P-body's 89-94 so they'll be as rare as the flu.

I'm not sure you did anything incorrectly to remove them so much that it could be the plastic getting old, brittle, and weak and when you went to go move it, it snapped.

I'd look on eBay for a set of Mopar shop manuals.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-Dodge-Daytona-Shadow-Aries-Shop-Manual-89_W0QQitemZ170137797009QQihZ007QQcategoryZ34218QQ rdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcm dZViewItem

Also on eBay I've seen parts identifiers. They have all the pics and part numbers for every peice on the car, get them for like $6.00 to your door. Get one of those too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PART-IDENTIFIER-DODGE-SHADOW-1987-1994_W0QQitemZ120207810644QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6762Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

DC Turismo
01-13-2008, 03:02 PM
Well the piece that connected to the bottom of the headlight did snap, but the top one, upon unscrewing it, started to pull the threads out from the inside. :(

Right on though, the guy who helps me with parts has those on an old school projector type of thing and I just look them up on there if need be. It may be worth getting one though to have on hand. Thanks Rich! :D

briceturbosports
01-15-2008, 01:29 PM
[QUOTE=DC Turismo;257324]Awesome Greg! Are you doing CSX-VNT GFX on it?[/QUOTE

its going to be a cross of 89 csx and a dc shadow :thumb:

DC Turismo
01-15-2008, 05:14 PM
If you do up a DC hood you gotta get me fixed up with one since I got you the 2dr Lbody DC one! lol...

briceturbosports
01-16-2008, 09:12 AM
If you do up a DC hood you gotta get me fixed up with one since I got you the 2dr Lbody DC one! lol...

i got the scoop at sdac 13 its been waiting for use. i had a post on td a few years ago but no one wanted to put up the money to get more done

DC Turismo
01-17-2008, 12:59 AM
Well I'll take one!

DC Turismo
01-18-2008, 05:28 PM
I seriously cannot wait to get my CSX done and be able to cruise it around town. Today, there's this young chap who is in a newer WRX, wwwwwwwwrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaa ccccccchhhhhhhsssssshhhhhhhhh every two seconds, then taking off, slowing down, and repeating. What I would give to have my CSX behind him when he'd have done it. I'm hoping to restore this thing as close to a T as I can, but I tell you what, I will drive it and have some fun with it too, especially with guys like that who wouldn't have any idea what in the hell just blew by 'em. :D

STEVE B
01-25-2008, 02:37 PM
What is the stock tire size?

quantum
01-25-2008, 02:48 PM
What is the stock tire size?

195/60VR-15 or 225/50VR-15 depending weather it had the wide tire option.

DC Turismo
02-04-2008, 01:38 AM
Although I'm going for an as close to original resto as possible with my car, would it be wrong to add a 2.5" exhaust as a slight mod? I want this thing to sound good and look better than compared to the stock exhaust setup. I am wanting to since it would be a part that COULD BE converted back to stock if the situation called for it to be.

Thoughts?

TurboRon25
02-04-2008, 02:19 AM
They allow it on F.A.S.T cars.

Ron

1FastCSX289
02-04-2008, 10:32 AM
Although I'm going for an as close to original resto as possible with my car, would it be wrong to add a 2.5" exhaust as a slight mod? I want this thing to sound good and look better than compared to the stock exhaust setup. I am wanting to since it would be a part that COULD BE converted back to stock if the situation called for it to be.

Thoughts?

Even though your going back to original, its still YOUR car. You have to decide what youre going to do with it. If youre going to do concours shows with the car (dont know how many there are with a "Shelby Dodge" class), theyre gonna take points off for that. So, if thats what you want, keep the exhaust original. If youre gonna drive the car, take it to SDAC, and have a good time with it, make it how you want, keeping in mind you may want to return it to original in 20 yrs to sell it to fund your retirement.

I want to restore my CSX as well. But, I want it to look bone stock from the outside, AND I want all my current performance (and then some). So, im leaving the drive train as is.........BUT I want to have ALL the original parts for the car in boxes so that it could be returned to original at some point in the future. So, now that I have all the body parts together, I am after a Shelby valve cover, mobil 1 plaque, some misc interior pieces, the original computer and wiring harness, etc. A little at a time.

DC Turismo
02-04-2008, 09:11 PM
Thanks for your input Sean. PM me and I can get you a contact for the Mobil 1 plaque :)

In the meantime, check this out and tell me this isn't neat guys! After talking with the second owner of my CSX over the weekend, he dug up some pics of it that he took right after he bought it from an auto auction... in 1993! Talk about a major flashback! This was my car, 15 years ago with just about 16k on the clock! :

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/699/medium/scan0001.jpg

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/699/medium/scan0005.jpg

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/699/medium/scan0006.jpg

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/699/medium/scan0009.jpg

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/699/medium/scan0010.jpg

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/699/medium/scan00021.jpg

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/699/medium/scan0004.jpg

^^^ Original tires were still on it! :(

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/699/medium/scan0003.jpg

Notice the absence of the front and rear airdams. They were gone when he bought it he said. Evidence can be seen of the front apparently getting crunched on the left and right side of the front bumper cover - notice the paint chips.

The fiberides were on the car when he sold them to the third owner (who I bought the car from). Unfortunately, they traded them away! :mad:

I then called the original owner to tell him that I found out some more info about the car and he thought it was awesome news! He told me in addition to these pictures I received from the second owner that he was planning on sending me a ton of pics his mother found in a photo album of when the car was BRAND NEW :love:


What do you think?>? :D

DC Turismo
02-04-2008, 10:22 PM
BTW Sean, I think I'm going to do the 2.5" exhaust. I hope to have the car good enough so it wouldn't be abig deal to lose a couple of points for that upgrade haha... But like you said, anything that is needed to turn it back to all stock will be in a rubbermaid tub in storage haha.

dodgeshadowchik
02-04-2008, 10:42 PM
Mine got a 2.5" exhaust, as well.... So I think its fine!

Those photos are really cool! I was able to contact a previous owner of my CSX; but they seemed rather disinterested in sharing anything. :(

DC Turismo
02-05-2008, 06:45 PM
Mary Beth The main reason I want to do an exhaust upgrade is because I want to have this car have a good sound to it. Heard a few stock exhaust VNTs run and they're too quiet lol...

I read somewhere recently though that the mufflers on the CSX-VNTs were restrictive for the purpose of building up gases in the turbo. Is that at all true, to the point that by adding a 2.5" you'd be interfering with that?

Turbodave
02-05-2008, 06:58 PM
There were a lot of discussions in the past about bigger exhaust causing overboost problems on the VNT cars.

I was just talking with a friend that has an 89 CSX last night at dinner. He put a 2.5" system on his with a flowmaster, the boost went from 8-10psi to 14-15psi as result. It obviously pulls harder, and he' been running it that way for quite a while with no issues. The VNT computers seems to allow a little more overboost and he hasn't experienced any shutdown or codes.

DC Turismo
02-05-2008, 07:22 PM
There were a lot of discussions in the past about bigger exhaust causing overboost problems on the VNT cars.

I was just talking with a friend that has an 89 CSX last night at dinner. He put a 2.5" system on his with a flowmaster, the boost went from 8-10psi to 14-15psi as result. It obviously pulls harder, and he' been running it that way for quite a while with no issues. The VNT computers seems to allow a little more overboost and he hasn't experienced any shutdown or codes.


And that was without a G-valve or Stage'd SBEC?

1FastCSX289
02-06-2008, 12:27 PM
And that was without a G-valve or Stage'd SBEC?

Yes. This is supposedly common on the VNT's. They have trouble controlling the boost once its modded.

Nice pics BTW. Thats a serious score. Strange that at 16k, the car is missing the gfx. I mean, if I cracked up a car with only 16k on it, I would file a claim and have it fixed. Weird that the owner just stripped them off and that was that.

dodgeshadowchik
02-06-2008, 12:34 PM
DC: Ah, i see! Mine needed it because the old one was rotted out. It sounds pretty nice. I got mine from FWD performance. 2.5" cat and 2.5" exhaust and muffler. I have a video of it running to you want to see (hear) it. I haven't had any problems running this on the car.

bluneon
02-06-2008, 11:22 PM
how can you tell if your car had the wide tire option?

DC Turismo
02-07-2008, 12:02 AM
Yes. This is supposedly common on the VNT's. They have trouble controlling the boost once its modded.

Nice pics BTW. Thats a serious score. Strange that at 16k, the car is missing the gfx. I mean, if I cracked up a car with only 16k on it, I would file a claim and have it fixed. Weird that the owner just stripped them off and that was that.

Thanks for the info on the exhaust Sean. What is done to your's exhaust wise and how in your opinion does it run?

As for the GFX, the original owner traded the car in with both air dams intact. That was in 1991 or 1992. My guess is that after sitting on the lot until 1993 and still not having a buyer, that dealership sent it to the auto auction where the second owner bought it. He told me that both air dams were missing at the time he purchased it from there, which points towards a towing incident when the car was transported from the dealership to the auction? I'm definitely excited about the pics though :clap:


DC: Ah, i see! Mine needed it because the old one was rotted out. It sounds pretty nice. I got mine from FWD performance. 2.5" cat and 2.5" exhaust and muffler. I have a video of it running to you want to see (hear) it. I haven't had any problems running this on the car.

Have a link?


how can you tell if your car had the wide tire option?

Look at the upper sticker on the inside of the driver's door, and if the tire size reads 225x50r15 then your car is the wide tire option car. If the tire size is listed as 195x60R15 then your's is the standard tire size car.

In addition, you can find someone with a master VIN list and they can tell you by your VIN if your's was a wide tire option car or not too.

1FastCSX289
02-07-2008, 09:40 AM
What is done to your's exhaust wise and how in your opinion does it run?



Im not running a vnt. I am running a GT30R with tubular header, external wastegate, and 3" exhaust. And it runs good!

DC Turismo
02-16-2008, 03:13 AM
Oh how I'd love to redo my car in bonzai blue like the prototype. If only I wouldn't be ruining a numbered car by doing so :(

DC Turismo
02-17-2008, 03:07 AM
Anyone see this pic. on the 'net before?

http://www.moparts.org/moparts/picture/members/2/pic/Steven3.jpg


Yuck. Fugly --- mirrors, and the black paint matched with gold pizza wheels is :yuck:

CoolV300C
02-17-2008, 08:30 AM
Never seen that picture before. Makes you wonder why.

DC Turismo
02-17-2008, 11:27 PM
That came off of a Spanish site.... Any of these make it into Mexico you think (not originally sold there, but second or third hand)?

DC Turismo
02-18-2008, 12:49 AM
Another GEORGEOUS CSX:

http://www.roadgems.com/membcars/shawncsx.htm

dodgeshadowchik
02-20-2008, 09:30 AM
DC: I haven't uploaded the video of the car running yet. I will and then send you the link. I have one of it at the track, but the sound of the firebird kicking my arse overpowers my car. :p

dodgeshadowchik
02-20-2008, 10:10 AM
here's the link:
its a pretty large file, too.
www.miswiredcarbonunit.com/shelbyshots.mov

i'd say just download it, as I don't know if it'll play over the net due to size.

DC Turismo
02-20-2008, 07:05 PM
No problem. One thing I can't wait for when my car is done is to take it to all kinds of scenic spots and get some nice pics of it from every angle. Pics of these are so limited online it seems :(

Johnny
02-21-2008, 12:32 AM
I am about to have a couple more rear air dams made.
If there is anyone interested in one, let me know real soon.

Look here.......
http://polybushings.com/pages/CSX.rearSkirt.html

Johnny
PolyBushings.com

DC Turismo
02-21-2008, 12:35 AM
Your product is awesome Johnny! Very well done.
:clap:

Now when are you going to do the rockers?! :evil:

dodgeshadowchik
02-21-2008, 08:41 PM
No problem. One thing I can't wait for when my car is done is to take it to all kinds of scenic spots and get some nice pics of it from every angle. Pics of these are so limited online it seems :(

Oh, once I get my DSLR... there WILL be lots of pictures of Shelby CSX's and other shelby cars. I'm going to make sure of it! :amen:

DC Turismo
02-21-2008, 11:39 PM
Steve B

When are you going to re-register your CSX on shelbyregistry.com to get it out of Knox's name? :yuck:

cordes
02-22-2008, 08:08 PM
Steve B

When are you going to re-register your CSX on shelbyregistry.com to get it out of Knox's name? :yuck:

Please do it ASAP! :nod:

DC Turismo
03-16-2008, 07:19 PM
Bump from the depths of Page 2!

Hopefully the owner of #226 will be posting within our thread here soon to give us the inside scoop on his/her car!

DC Turismo
03-31-2008, 12:44 AM
Here's a monthly bump. With springtime coming around fast, what's everyone have planned to do with their CSX's? I know I would like to get a gas tank back up underneath mine with a known-to-work fuel pump to finally get it started!

Scottmon
03-31-2008, 09:19 AM
ATM still planning to hang on to #009. I need to call Kaminari to see about ordering a front airdam and then figuring out the best way to attach it. Probably won't do much else besides gathering the few parts I need for a while. Have to get rid of some other projects first to free up some space and cash.

DC Turismo
03-31-2008, 01:13 PM
Scott

Do let us know how you decide to mount that front air dam. I have spoken to Johnny at Polybushings and I plan on ordering a dozen or so of the mounting bolts he used on the rear air dams so I can attach them to the front one and mount it using the factory holes. Probably have to fiberglass them into place, but it's 10x better than doing some stupid 3m tape job or some spray adhesive.

I was going to ask you if Dave had came and picked that car up yet or not. We're stll waiting for more pics from you once it gets out of the garage hahaha

Scottmon
04-01-2008, 09:26 AM
Scott

Do let us know how you decide to mount that front air dam. I have spoken to Johnny at Polybushings and I plan on ordering a dozen or so of the mounting bolts he used on the rear air dams so I can attach them to the front one and mount it using the factory holes. Probably have to fiberglass them into place, but it's 10x better than doing some stupid 3m tape job or some spray adhesive.

I was going to ask you if Dave had came and picked that car up yet or not. We're stll waiting for more pics from you once it gets out of the garage hahaha

Yeah. I'm thinking fiberglass or some kind of aircraft type epoxy for the air dam studs.

I got to thinking about the '89 CSX and decided I just wasn't ready to sell it yet. Think I'll try to sell off some other stuff first, just WAY too many projects. I did give Dave first dibs if I change my mind though.

May be a while before any fresh pics show up. I have a seriously long list of stuff to do, and the '89 CSX is near the end of the list ATM. At least the car is stored inside under a cover so it won't deteriorate if it takes a long nap.

1FastCSX289
04-01-2008, 10:00 AM
Scott

Probably have to fiberglass them into place, but it's 10x better than doing some stupid 3m tape job or some spray adhesive.



Hey, I resemble that remark.:D

I used RTV on the back side of the airdam and then bolted the edges where it attaches in the wheel well. I havent driven it much since, but it seems like its gonna be good to go. Just a little FYI in case you were considering the butcher method. I dont see how anyone could tell the difference once its in place and if its secure, then who cares? No?

85shelbycharger
04-01-2008, 02:23 PM
I told Billy that we should drill some large holes and use about four or so 9/16 in. bolts w/washers to hold it in place. He won't go for it though? :confused: :lol: :lol: Says that wouldn't look good :p

I've also said how I plan on beating the living h*ll out of the car once we get it restored and how I want him to video tape me doing big, smokey burnouts up and down the street.....he thinks that's a bad idea too :p

DC Turismo
04-04-2008, 05:11 PM
I told Billy that we should drill some large holes and use about four or so 9/16 in. bolts w/washers to hold it in place. He won't go for it though? :confused: :lol:

:mad::mad: lol...



I've also said how I plan on beating the living h*ll out of the car once we get it restored and how I want him to video tape me doing big, smokey burnouts up and down the street.....he thinks that's a bad idea too :p

:eek::rolleyes::wow1:

You would enjoy that too much haha No burning rubber is going on in this car!

SpiritedShelbys
04-06-2008, 11:58 PM
Billy... c'mon now. Anyone who's driven an '89 CSX or any other VNT car for that matter knows that if you step on it in 1st gear you're gonna roast the tires most likely through the end of 2nd too. The temptation will overcome LOL.

DC Turismo
04-07-2008, 12:01 AM
Billy... c'mon now. Anyone who's driven an '89 CSX or any other VNT car for that matter knows that if you step on it in 1st gear you're gonna roast the tires most likely through the end of 2nd too. The temptation will overcome LOL.


:o I know I know... I'm going to baby it as much as I can thought until I get addicted to the boost sensation :eyebrows:

SpiritedShelbys
04-07-2008, 12:05 AM
It takes less than 2.2 seconds LOL

DC Turismo
04-07-2008, 12:42 AM
It takes less than 2.2 seconds LOL

:lol:

I just realized today how much easier of a project the CSX is going to be to restore than an L-body. I can't wait to begin! But too bad a couple projects are still ahead of it before I get to :o

SpiritedShelbys
04-07-2008, 12:53 AM
Well that's totally conditional man. If your car did not have the GFX, ripped up or irreparably stained interior with bad weather stripping, no way it's easier than an L-body. I see good/NOS L-body parts for sale far more often than I do the p-body (CSX) stuff. Honestly after mine I don't plan to do another SD, after all I still have a '58 making extremely slow progress. I'd like to restore my S-Lancer to the degree of my CSX but that's just not going to happen. Top it off with my old CSX-T that I just bought back from a kid that blew it up after I saved it from the crushers 8 years ago, no way. I'll be making some decisions soon on those. It's tough to let go.

DC Turismo
04-07-2008, 06:31 PM
Oh parts wise, these are way more difficult to find parts for than the L-bodies. But in terms of sanding, you don't have the sail panel grooves, the holes at the back of the hood, the gutters running along the roof, and overall the stupid tiny spots that are tedious to deal with when repainting. I too think this car will be the only SD I restore unless I get a Shelby Lancer down the road, as I would like to have one of those at some point since it was the only other red SD car not counting the Dakotas since they were trucks. The next project I do is going to be a nice turbo buildup to put into something, maybe a Shelby Charger, maybe a Shadow or Omni, something that I will be comfortable with changing the color of and modifying, whereas with an SD I'm going as close to factory as possible.

CSX321
04-07-2008, 07:44 PM
I told Billy that we should drill some large holes and use about four or so 9/16 in. bolts w/washers to hold it in place. He won't go for it though? :confused: :lol: :lol: Says that wouldn't look good :p
Unfortunately, that's exactly how the rear cover is held on my '87. :mad: A previous owner did it. They didn't even space them evenly! :confused2:

DC Turismo
04-07-2008, 10:37 PM
Unfortunately, that's exactly how the rear cover is held on my '87. :mad: A previous owner did it. They didn't even space them evenly! :confused2:

:mad:

The 87's had rear air dams? :confused2: I thought the back bumper was just painted two tone?

CSX321
04-08-2008, 10:24 AM
The silver part is a separate piece, but I'm not sure if it is different from a standard Shadow ES.

Turbodave
04-08-2008, 05:25 PM
The silver part is a separate piece, but I'm not sure if it is different from a standard Shadow ES.

The rear part is the same on the 87-88's but is still unique to the CSX's. I've got one car that has some nice sheet metal screws holding it on.

DC Turismo
04-09-2008, 09:05 PM
I never knew that. Good to know now though!

turbokid
04-09-2008, 10:44 PM
I am looking to get a csx soon. Since my dad sold our red one that was hit very hard I have been looking for one.

jeighty3
05-07-2008, 04:11 AM
just a quick update on the progress of #226. Finally had time to get a brand new vnt unit installed. Changed the oil in the engine and transmission, and replaced a torn cv boot while i was at it. The car starts right up and idles fine. The old vnt turbo was destroyed so there is essentially oil everywhere. The car smokes like crazy from the tailpipe and even a little under the hood. I'm way pressed for time so I hope to be able to start it every week or so and get all the oil in the exhaust burnt out. I drove the car down the block and i was able to hear the turbo spool (it was actually pretty loud for a stock car). Didn't really get to feel the boost as i was missing a clamp on the intercooler hose, so i assume that most of it was leaking out.

Also, I may be going back to school again, so the car may be for sale shortly. If anyone is interested in a clean california car with recaro seats and a brand new turbo, let me know. I'm not really even sure what these cars are going for right now

jeighty3
05-07-2008, 04:13 AM
oh yeah. a couple pics for this thread

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q113/jeighty3/9.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q113/jeighty3/1.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q113/jeighty3/13.jpg

DC Turismo
05-07-2008, 11:06 PM
Car sure looks like it'd be a good fixer upper for someone! Glad to hear you were able to get that turbo changed and drive it around a bit. How long have you owned it again? And do you like those pinstripes on the sides of the car and on top of the GFX? Reminds me of the decals for a 89 - 90 Daytona Shelby

jeighty3
05-08-2008, 04:15 AM
yeah i don't think there will really be much more to fix up. Car should run just fine once i get it all tuned up. As is it starts right up and idles fine. I've only had it for a few months. Bought it on a whim, when I probably should have just continued to pay down student loans and what not. Right now is not an ideal time for a project car. I don't really mind the pinstripes, they were on the car when I got it, and I imagine it would be a lot of not too necessary work to remove them. I will continue to post updates as I progess. If anyone has more questions feel free to ask

rich tideswell
05-08-2008, 10:21 AM
And do you like those pinstripes on the sides of the car and on top of the GFX? Reminds me of the decals for a 89 - 90 Daytona Shelby

i think they're pretty nice actually, my only beef would be that I'd want the thicker stripes on top and have it fade to the thinner stripes on the bottom... these should have been factory IMO

DC Turismo
05-08-2008, 08:41 PM
I like the pattern of the lower strobe stripes as well. :eyebrows:

DC Turismo
05-08-2008, 10:13 PM
Is the plain gray fabric that is found on the sides of our seats/portions of the door panels still available to any extent? If not, is there a close match?

DC Turismo
05-12-2008, 10:34 PM
Well the warm weather is on its way. For those of us working on our CSX's and don't have the opportunity to take pics. let's see some of your finished products! 89 CSX pictures are limited on the web, so come on guys, post up some pics. we haven't seen before!

rich tideswell
05-13-2008, 07:39 AM
Is the plain gray fabric that is found on the sides of our seats/portions of the door panels still available to any extent? If not, is there a close match?

call these guys, they might have it

http://www.smsautofabrics.com/

CSX153
05-13-2008, 07:35 PM
heres mine

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2649463

DC Turismo
05-13-2008, 08:20 PM
Will do Rich, thanks!

153, nice ride man. I love those rims. Do you use those as d.d. rims or what?

CSX153
05-13-2008, 08:39 PM
d.d. ?

raccoon
05-13-2008, 08:50 PM
daily driver.

nice clean car btw. :)

CSX153
05-13-2008, 08:59 PM
nah, i use a '94 Shadow for that. but i am driving it more often lately

DC Turismo
05-25-2008, 02:16 AM
Anyone remember this car, and if so, anyone from here buy it? What number was it?

http://www.fidnet.com/~dallas/images/shelby08.jpg

I remember that big sale took place durnig my senior year of high school and I wasn't allowed to go out there and buy it. Man was I mad.

DC Turismo
05-26-2008, 01:18 AM
ATTENTION STEVE BIRK!

That is actually your car pictured there in my last post. The guy you bought it from had bought it from this lot of TM's. Cool huh? Did you know that?

DC Turismo
05-26-2008, 01:19 AM
BTW, OEM and Kaminari front air dams are different, and not just urethane vs. fiberglass. Just FYI, as that's something I'll be watching for when I see a CSX on a showfield from now on since these new repros aren't 100% identical to the originals.

85shelbycharger
05-27-2008, 12:25 PM
BTW, OEM and Kaminari front air dams are different, and not just urethane vs. fiberglass. Just FYI, as that's something I'll be watching for when I see a CSX on a showfield from now on since these new repros aren't 100% identical to the originals.

Yeah, I was surprised when I learned about this. Subtle little differences though too, not just the fact that the repros are made of fiberglass and the original ones of urethane.

WickedShelby88
05-27-2008, 01:16 PM
I know I'm probably in the wrong thread here by mentioning this, but does anyone here know if the harness in the 89 CSX is similar to the 90 shadow VNT. In the 90 it looks almost identical to an 89 SMEC car save for the SBEC and extra wiring for the solenoids. All the relays seem to be in the same spot as an 89 would have.

DC Turismo
05-27-2008, 05:49 PM
It is identical IIRC Joe.

1FastCSX289
05-28-2008, 07:37 AM
Will do Rich, thanks!

153, nice ride man. I love those rims. Do you use those as d.d. rims or what?


I really like those rims too. They give it a real simple, clean look. :thumb:

WickedShelby88
05-28-2008, 10:24 AM
Seeing that barn full of TM's is crazy. Were most of them 89 CSX's?

1FastCSX289
05-28-2008, 10:39 AM
Well the warm weather is on its way. For those of us working on our CSX's and don't have the opportunity to take pics. let's see some of your finished products! 89 CSX pictures are limited on the web, so come on guys, post up some pics. we haven't seen before!

Well.....its not finished yet (never finished), but heres some recent shots. Rampage in the background.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8742&stc=1&d=1211986180

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8743&stc=1&d=1211986180

cordes
05-29-2008, 12:08 AM
That is looking good Sean!

DC Turismo
05-29-2008, 12:09 AM
Naw, only one was in that barn. Most of them were L-bodies.

Car looks real awesome Sean. Looking forward to getting more time at the event this year to check it out since last year was so busy! hahaha

1FastCSX289
05-29-2008, 10:26 AM
Thanks guys. Ill be there and as long as the CSX holds together, it will be there as well.

CSX153
06-06-2008, 10:08 PM
sorry, i dont know much about your car. but whats with the weird wire setup and the SS hoses on the VC?

DC Turismo
06-07-2008, 12:18 AM
That's a good question as I'm wondering the same thing. Relocated distributor/coil?

BTW #153, I can't help but realize your location says slut lol....

CSX153
06-07-2008, 12:25 AM
yup. salt lake, ut

1FastCSX289
06-07-2008, 08:24 PM
sorry, i dont know much about your car. but whats with the weird wire setup and the SS hoses on the VC?

I am running an SDS stand alone engine management system. I dont use a distributor......im running a crank triggered ignition with coil packs. The SS lines out of the VC run to a catch can for crank case evacuation.

dodgeshadowchik
06-08-2008, 02:42 PM
DC: you may have seen these already, but here's the most recent pics of my CSX.
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26055

DC Turismo
06-08-2008, 10:14 PM
Yeah I saw those and WOW did that stuff bring out the shine in your paint! I'll save them to my CSX folder on my computer and when I get back around to putting up an 89 CSX site again I'll definitely be using those.



What are your guys' thoughts on installing a dual-tipped turbo muffler on an 89 CSX like those that came on SC's and other TM's from the 80s.?


One interesting note, one year ago yesterday I brought my CSX to its new home :eyebrows::clap::hail::thumb::D

dodgeshadowchik
06-09-2008, 08:48 AM
I think a dual-tipped muffler would look fine on it.

Awww... the 1 year anniversary! My CSX's 1-yr is comming up soon here, too!

DC Turismo
06-12-2008, 01:34 AM
Another 'Where's Waldo' type of search, this time with CSX engine bays. Can you find two noticeable differences here that makes up for a good question --- Did it come like that? See if you can find it. First pic. is of my engine bay (haven't touched it btw, that's exactly as dirty and messy as how I bought it). Second one looks like someone spent some time on it. I never noticed this certain thing until I was looking at the picture really close, and have never seen another CSX with this either.


BTW guys and gal, how many are bringing their CSX's out to SDAC-18!? :thumb: I want to take some pics. and look over some things for reference.

shelbypart
06-12-2008, 02:26 AM
Dealer add on cruise control. I would say none came like that from shelby but who knows what dealerships and owners will do. Also none should have an unplugged vac line!

DC Turismo
06-12-2008, 12:42 PM
Didn't notice the vac line, but good pickup on the cruise! Some dealerships did some things to these cars that were cool in a sense (as I know I'd like to have cruise control) but they should've left the thing alone how it came from the factory.

TurbododgePirate
06-14-2008, 10:47 AM
Okay, some where's waldo picture differences:

Your CSX: Doesn't have a alarm by the firewall AC outlet.
The left upper STUD on the AC compressor is a bolt, not a nut like the clean car.
Cruise Control on his.
Odd Plastic Ball on the drivers side strut tower on his. IIRC part of the cruise function.

You should ask to take pics of Tim's, I think it's about as close to original as you'll find, AND it's local.

DC Turismo
06-15-2008, 01:09 AM
Yeah the big plastic ball on the driver's side strut tower is part of the cruise control, some sort of vacuum piece I believe. I know my buddy and I removed that from his car (Grand Prix) a few years ago and his cruise did not operate correctly until he put it back on.

cordes
06-16-2008, 10:21 AM
Yeah the big plastic ball on the driver's side strut tower is part of the cruise control, some sort of vacuum piece I believe. I know my buddy and I removed that from his car (Grand Prix) a few years ago and his cruise did not operate correctly until he put it back on.

It's a vacuum reserve canister. The car won't be able go go into boost while the cruise is on if you don't have one with the proper check valve in there also. The cruise will still be (almost)fully functional though.

DC Turismo
06-25-2008, 11:14 PM
It was great to see a few of your cars out at SDAC this past week everyone! I took plenty of pics and will post them up once I find the cable!

DC Turismo
07-27-2008, 01:47 AM
Never did find the cable to post pics of the CSX's I got out at SDAC. Has anyone done work to their cars here over the summer, considering this thread has died since pre-SDAC? lol.... I know I've done some junkyard scavenging to find some goodies that I'll be adding as surprises to my car that fit perfect with the car since Shadows are rarely seen in our yards anymore. I seriously cannot wait til it's done, muahaha :evil: It's going away for winter, but shoudl be able to begin work in the Spring.

1FastCSX289
07-27-2008, 07:14 AM
I've got my motor back together with 4 brand new Venolias, bearings, HG, and a bunch of other misc parts. Unfortunately, the wiring harness isnt working out for me, so I have to wait until I can get the right parts to complete this harness or get the correct CSX-VNT harness. So, the car is layed up until I can find something.:(

DC Turismo
07-28-2008, 02:52 PM
I'll keep an eye out for you man.

DC Turismo
07-28-2008, 10:50 PM
I got my CSX running for the first time since I acquired ownership of it! Turns out there was rust in the metal fuel lines from the bad gas tank/fuel pump that were on the car previously. So I just ran a rubber fuel hose from the good used tank I put up under there directly to the fuel line. The tank is equipped with an 89 Daytona Shelby fuel pump. WALA. She fired right up! :D I was mad I didn't have my video camera on me though to record the moment, but oh well. I'm just thrilled that I got to hear it run. It hasn't ran since November 2001!!!!!!! I plan on videotaping it running some tomorrow though and throwing a clip of it up on youtube.com to share with you guys if you're interested. Just wanted to share my excitement! :D

1FastCSX289
07-28-2008, 11:06 PM
I got my CSX running for the first time since I acquired ownership of it! Turns out there was rust in the metal fuel lines from the bad gas tank/fuel pump that were on the car previously. So I just ran a rubber fuel hose from the good used tank I put up under there directly to the fuel line. The tank is equipped with an 89 Daytona Shelby fuel pump. WALA. She fired right up! :D I was mad I didn't have my video camera on me though to record the moment, but oh well. I'm just thrilled that I got to hear it run. It hasn't ran since November 2001!!!!!!! I plan on videotaping it running some tomorrow though and throwing a clip of it up on youtube.com to share with you guys if you're interested. Just wanted to share my excitement! :D

Congrats man! That is big. Its a great feeling to get something going that has been down for so long. Nice work.:nod:

DC Turismo
07-29-2008, 01:48 AM
Heck yeah man, especially after getting it home in June 07 and not being able to do anything other than stare at it in the driveway. At least now I can drive it in and out of the driveway! :D

I was fearful that upon starting it I'd hear a rod knock or something, but this thing is quiet as any could imagine. A slight squeak from a loose timing belt, but it's a good feeling to know I won't be having to search out any mysterious problems engine wise. Just fuel line :mad:

1FastCSX289
07-29-2008, 09:02 AM
Just fuel line :mad:


Cake. Sounds like you got off pretty easy. A little clean up, some paint, detailing, etc......that thing will be one awesome car.

85shelbycharger
07-29-2008, 10:45 AM
It runs. Yay! Now you can help me finish my car :D

WickedShelby88
07-29-2008, 12:53 PM
Way to go man! Good job and I gotta give you props for being patient until you could work on it. Theres a company out there that will copy any lines you give them in pre-bent stainless if you like. That would be sweet if you could go that route and then other VNT owners as well as I imagine shadow owners would be able to have stainless lines. Sounds like a group buy to me ;) I'd be in to replace the old lines on my mom's VNT car. No I don't own a CSX-VNT but they are definitely beginning to grow on me.

DC Turismo
07-29-2008, 03:35 PM
Thanks man. Yeah I'm going to go the stainless steel line route. Not sure if I'm going to try to find pre-bent ones or just bend them myself. My dad has bent lines in the past for his cars (we have the tools for it and everything, so chances are I'll just by a roll of that line and bend it as needed.

Vid coming tonight!

DC Turismo
07-31-2008, 11:55 PM
The more and more I think about my CSX the more and more I want to do whatever the heck I please with it and I'm pretty sure that is the route I'm going to take after hours of pondering. Two things I am debating about are power windows and a tilt column... What are your thoughts on that?


BTW, does anyone have a source who is reproducing the underhood CS vacuum diagrams?



Haven't gotten my video uploaded because I have to reinstall the firewire card thing in my computer. Pat and I drove it around the block today though. VNT turbo sure does sound nice spooling up! :eyebrows::thumb:

cordes
08-01-2008, 12:14 AM
Power windows and tilt column are three more things to go wrong. ;)

DC Turismo
08-01-2008, 12:31 AM
That's only two cordes lol...


It's just a thought... who knows what will come about. Thinking outloud I guess :amen: No matter what it will be a surprise when it is all said and done.

cordes
08-01-2008, 12:56 AM
That's only two cordes lol...


It's just a thought... who knows what will come about. Thinking outloud I guess :amen: No matter what it will be a surprise when it is all said and done.

TWO windows, and the column. ;)

DC Turismo
08-01-2008, 01:14 AM
TWO windows, and the column. ;)

Gotcha. Thought you meant to say two mods.

Badger
08-02-2008, 01:31 AM
I have a couple questions for all CSX-VNT owners:

On your registration, what does it say? Does it say '89 shelby CSX

or does it say '89 dodge shadow shelby CSX

or something else? I thought the whittier cars were all titled as "shelby's" and not Dodge's?!

my other question is how are you guys insuring these cars? I have triple A insurance. Right now, if the car was wrecked, they would give me the same amount as an '89 turbo 1 shadow!! I they do not consider a car to be a "classic" or collectors item unless its an '88 and earlier!!

Curious to know how other insurance companies look at the CSX as far as its worth.

DC Turismo
08-02-2008, 02:19 AM
My title says 1989 Dodge Shadow. I tried rewriting it when I had the car transferred to me as 1989 Shelby CSX but of course the state didn't grant my wish. I still would like to pursue it and get it titled as a Shelby, but that's not really a top priority right now since I'm the only one to see the title anyways. I have been told that you can fight this though by taking pictures of the car from all angles and up close shots of the b-pillar Shelby decal, the engine bay tags and vacuum diagram, the interior dash plaques, the seats, and all decals. Even teh Shelby embossment on the fiberides. This should be done to show at no point on the car does it say Dodge. It was a Dodge Shadow, but built by Carroll Shelby as a CSX, being completely revamped.

These cars were supposed to have been titled as Shelby's not Dodges, and I was informed about that by a very reliable source.

I have all of the production numbers on file to show how rare your car is, and would showing them NADA values along with pictures of your car. Also, there used to be an insurance thread on here that ScottD from MD had posted I believe on how to go about insuring a Shelby automobile to get the most for your buck if something were to unfortunately happen.

1FastCSX289
08-02-2008, 08:05 PM
Mine is titled as a Shadow also. I have it insured through Grundy for about 8500. Full collector car insurance......low deductable and its less than 300 a year for two of my vehicles.

Badger
08-03-2008, 05:48 PM
289,
is your other car thats insured with Grundy a collectible as well?

STEVE B
08-06-2008, 01:44 PM
I thought I would do a up date on my CSX. I got the dash harness replaced and the dash back in. I was going to clean up the interior and get it ready for a show. But I removed the carpet and didn't liked what I saw. I got a few places of rust through. I then desided not to go to the show. I want to fix the floor before I put it back together. I got a replacement floor from 461. So when the weather cools down I will weld it in. Here are some pictures of the car.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/StevenABirk/DSC02109.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/StevenABirk/DSC02110.jpg

STEVE B
08-06-2008, 01:46 PM
Also here is the hood I making for it. I got the idea from a 1970 Shelby Mustang. I still have to mold it in.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/StevenABirk/DSC02141.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa111

STEVE B
08-06-2008, 01:47 PM
Here is the other picture.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/StevenABirk/DSC02142.jpg

cordes
08-06-2008, 02:38 PM
Looks pretty good Steve. Keep us updated with pics as you do the floor. Those are always interesting to see.

CSXVNT461
08-06-2008, 07:56 PM
Well I hated haveing to do it but I've started to part out my CSX # 461. While dismantling it for restoration I discovered severe damage to the core of the body. It was hit hard in the driver door at the hinges, compressing the fire wall and buckling the floorboard. A door mounted without all the shims someone Bondo'd into the area where the hinges mount leaves about an inch gap along the top of the window frame! This along with both rear quarters hit in multiple places, and other various dents here and there just made it to expensive to save. At least its parts can help make some other savable cars closer to being restored.

If you need any parts for your cars please PM me I want other CSX VNT owners to have first chance at these parts. Before I gave up I had collected every part for the car accept the fibrerides. DCturismo bought the dash plaque, and has interest in the center radio/gauge bezel. SteveB bought the horn button, floor mats, and has dibbs on a few other miscellaneous items. 1fastcsx289 has interest in the engine harness and boost gauge. Other than that everything else is available, it was a non Recaro car.

Regards
Pat

dodgeshadowchik
08-06-2008, 10:03 PM
figured I'd share the most recent photo of the CSX... about 2 days ago...
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/dodgeshadowchik/csx_trail.jpg

STEVE B
08-06-2008, 11:42 PM
I have a question. Is the cowl area suppose to be flat black? That is the area were the wiper motor and wiper fluid tank is. I am going to repaint it.
Thanks

DC Turismo
08-07-2008, 01:23 AM
Steve

I have seen both black and red in that area. My thinking though is that it was black. Reason being they wanted all of that cowl area to be concealed underneath that plastic cover, so with it being black, its hidden best.... just my $.02



Pat, whenver you get the chance please do email me the pics of that center bezel area! It's sad to see one of these cars go, but at least the parts are going to help fellow CSX's live on! It's pretty stand up of you to say the least in regards to offering these to guys in the community who could use the stuff more than just random eBayers. :amen:

1FastCSX289
08-07-2008, 07:48 AM
Pat, whenver you get the chance please do email me the pics of that center bezel area! It's sad to see one of these cars go, but at least the parts are going to help fellow CSX's live on! It's pretty stand up of you to say the least in regards to offering these to guys in the community who could use the stuff more than just random eBayers. :amen:

+1 !!!!

Man, I wish this came about when I had more cash and didnt just blow up my engine! PM sent, CSX461. Thanks!

Badger
08-07-2008, 12:08 PM
I totally agree with the above comments...although I feel really bad for Pat.

On another note, are you guys sure that the VNT cars had the "mobil one" badge in the engine compartment like the S cars did? Im hearing arguments on both sides these days.

SwinginACR
08-07-2008, 04:48 PM
Hey guys, I have car 477. I just found this thread a couple days ago and heres my car.http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/cfowler84/Picture239.jpg


Well I hated haveing to do it but I've started to part out my CSX # 461. While dismantling it for restoration I discovered severe damage to the core of the body. It was hit hard in the driver door at the hinges, compressing the fire wall and buckling the floorboard. A door mounted without all the shims someone Bondo'd into the area where the hinges mount leaves about an inch gap along the top of the window frame! This along with both rear quarters hit in multiple places, and other various dents here and there just made it to expensive to save. At least its parts can help make some other savable cars closer to being restored.

If you need any parts for your cars please PM me I want other CSX VNT owners to have first chance at these parts. Before I gave up I had collected every part for the car accept the fibrerides. DCturismo bought the dash plaque, and has interest in the center radio/gauge bezel. SteveB bought the horn button, floor mats, and has dibbs on a few other miscellaneous items. 1fastcsx289 has interest in the engine harness and boost gauge. Other than that everything else is available, it was a non Recaro car.

Regards
Pat

Do you have side skirts?

DC Turismo
08-07-2008, 06:38 PM
He does actually, and I have a front air dam for you! :eyebrows:


Welcome to the thread. Is your car a recaro or non-recaro car? How many miles? What have you done to it so far? Most importantly, have you registered it at the official registry --- www.shelbyregistry.com

Badger
08-07-2008, 07:03 PM
DC, thought you got rid of that front air dam.......your still selling one? price please.

CSXVNT461
08-07-2008, 07:46 PM
Thanks guys It really was hard to give up on it, and I still want to get another one some day. SwinginACR nice ride wanna sell it? lol

PM's sent..

SwinginACR
08-07-2008, 11:44 PM
He does actually, and I have a front air dam for you! :eyebrows:


Welcome to the thread. Is your car a recaro or non-recaro car? How many miles? What have you done to it so far? Most importantly, have you registered it at the official registry --- www.shelbyregistry.com
No its not a recaro car, It now has about 78,000 miles, im not 100% because the srt rims throw off the odometer. I need an airdam also but would rather try for the skirts right now since these would be the first set Ive seen up for sale since I got the car. Is yours an original or a Kaminari? And I registered somewher awhile back but not sure if thats where, Ill have to look into it.

Thanks guys It really was hard to give up on it, and I still want to get another one some day. SwinginACR nice ride wanna sell it? lol

PM's sent..

Sorry, but I dont want to sell it but I know where another one is and it will be up for sale here sooner or later, I have no idea how much. Its a reacaro car, # like 177 or somewhere in there, has skirts but no bumpers and dosnt run. I am interested in the skirts though.:thumb:

SwinginACR
08-07-2008, 11:52 PM
He does actually, and I have a front air dam for you! :eyebrows:


Welcome to the thread. Is your car a recaro or non-recaro car? How many miles? What have you done to it so far? Most importantly, have you registered it at the official registry --- www.shelbyregistry.com

Took a look and yes ive registerd.

dodgeshadowchik
08-24-2008, 09:55 AM
csxvnt461: nice 2 meet you! just got back from your place like 20 mins ago! and now the fun of unloading parts..... LOL!

...still sad to see one of these cars get parted tho. good luck with the new one! post pics when u get it asap! :clap:

turbojerk
09-03-2008, 06:15 PM
Hey guys, I have car 477. I just found this thread a couple days ago and heres my car.http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/cfowler84/Picture239.jpg


That looks kik azz!!!:thumb: Ever considered painting the wheels gold??

Oh yeah, I recently bought a CSX too.....;)

DC Turismo
09-03-2008, 11:36 PM
:clap: T-unit's joined us! :thumb::hail:

85shelbycharger
09-07-2008, 06:48 PM
Welcome (even though I'm not technically in it) to the CSX-VNT owner's club, T-Unit!!!

SwinginACR
09-10-2008, 11:55 PM
That looks kik azz!!!:thumb: Ever considered painting the wheels gold??

Oh yeah, I recently bought a CSX too.....;)

Well actually, I thought about it because the gold looked good on the car but I have two good acr bbs rims from my srt and I decided I would try and find two more and do them in gold to go on the car. The stock srts rub when I turn to tight and if I go off an incline at an angle their hittin something in the front fenders, I just havnt figured out what yet.

racer-xerols
09-14-2008, 08:37 PM
89 CSX-VNT 135 lives with me here in Maryland. Just a hair over 50k original miles, garage stored, and I probably (unfortunately) haven't even pulled the cover off it in 2 years. Been working and playing with motorcycles the last five years or so, and the TD's have unfortunately fallen dormant (although protected and indoors :).

Originally bought from Roger Crawford, pristine condition, 2 option (still has OEM gatorbacks on it, but I think they're too dryrotted to drive any distance on so street tires are on gold 6.5" crabs), documented car with all manuals and window sticker. Autographed by Carroll in 2001 at VIR. Have the numbers matching block in the garage (as well as all original parts that have been removed), car currently has an early 2.2 turbo block, ported/polished G head, Ed Peters ceramic coated intake, +40s, S60 VNT turbo, UDP, and 2.5" exhaust. Oh, and a bulge hood *with* C/S emissions label and gold diecut "Intercooled VNT" decals on the bulge :)

The only issue with the car is a just-starting to droop headliner, and my unfortunate neglect of such an awesome car. Come January '09 it qualifies for Historic tags in Maryland, so I'll tag it and put some miles on it once in a while, I promise :)

DC Turismo
09-15-2008, 05:12 PM
Racer

I'd like to see pics of the car with the bulged hood on it. !

racer-xerols
09-16-2008, 07:21 AM
I'll send you a pic, it won't let me post attachments for some reason...

Johnny
09-16-2008, 11:47 AM
By the way, I have one of these in stock....

http://polybushings.com/pages/CSX.rearSkirt.html

shelbyconcepts
09-19-2008, 11:42 AM
[QUOTE=racer-xerols;371672]89 CSX-VNT 135 lives with me here in Maryland. Just a hair over 50k original miles, garage stored, and I probably (unfortunately) haven't even pulled the cover off it in 2 years. Been working and playing with motorcycles the last five years or so, and the TD's have unfortunately fallen dormant (although protected and indoors :).

Joe,

You're still around? Good to hear from ya!

Tim

SwinginACR
09-22-2008, 04:10 AM
[QUOTE=racer-xerols;371672]89 CSX-VNT 135 lives with me here in Maryland. Just a hair over 50k original miles, garage stored, and I probably (unfortunately) haven't even pulled the cover off it in 2 years. Been working and playing with motorcycles the last five years or so, and the TD's have unfortunately fallen dormant (although protected and indoors :).

Joe,

You're still around? Good to hear from ya!

Tim

Are those ACR BBS's on your shadow?? How do they fit, do they rub. Id really like to know im looking for two more to put on mine.

turbojerk
09-22-2008, 11:09 PM
Thoughts on the Bra??? I kinda like the contrast....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3173/2881325186_5e3a221bf8_b.jpg

Badger
09-23-2008, 12:11 AM
Jerk,
I like the bra actually. Never seen one on a vnt car.

DC Turismo
09-23-2008, 12:41 AM
Looks good Troy. I almost picked one of those up at the junkyard recently. After seeing that on your car, I'll definitely be sporting one of those when it comes time for a roadtrip.

cordes
09-23-2008, 10:22 AM
Not only does it look decent, but knowing what that part of my shadow looks like I would certainly think it to be a good idea. :nod:

Badger
09-25-2008, 06:19 PM
Anyone know what the gold color on the original '89 VNT wheels is called? I cant seem to find any article saying what the color is called.

thanks guys

DC Turismo
09-25-2008, 11:38 PM
Anyone know what the gold color on the original '89 VNT wheels is called? I cant seem to find any article saying what the color is called.

thanks guys

+1

I've been hoping for some time that someone could provide the exact Chrysler paint code for it but have had no luck. Guess when the time comes I'll just match it up as best I can.

CSXVNT461
09-26-2008, 02:09 AM
I think it looks good. More important it looks functional! Just be sure and keep it very clean on the underside or they turn into sand paper against the paint.

turbojerk
10-14-2008, 12:40 PM
Back from the dead with a few pic's that I took in preperation of getting my Pa. classic tags....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3249/2940418870_efae61d76c_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3180/2941320073_10567deb51_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3241/2939564405_9e424787b4_b.jpg

MNmopar
10-14-2008, 01:35 PM
Wow man, that is a purrrrty csx!

CoolV300C
10-14-2008, 06:26 PM
Like the foglights. Do Shadow ES brackets line them up in the holes correctly?

turbojerk
10-14-2008, 07:30 PM
Like the foglights. Do Shadow ES brackets line them up in the holes correctly?


Yes, the brackets work great and bolt up using the factory locations, but you'll need to find a more narrow light like the lights that I used. The opening on the CSX is much less than the ES due to the lower chin spoiler.

They still look stock though as far as I'm concerned.:thumb:

CoolV300C
10-14-2008, 09:06 PM
Are they just standard ones one might find at the auto stores around, or did you get them somewhere special?

turbojerk
10-14-2008, 09:47 PM
I used a set of PIAA's that I had laying around. I've had them for a while and the may, or may not be available any longer(?)

I can get they're LxW if you're interested....

T

racer-xerols
10-22-2008, 09:50 AM
Tim - yep, still kickin'. "Found" a new hobby when I started working for Buell motorcycles, so the TD's have been stored nice and safe for a few years...but still around :)

For the gold wheels, I used an off-the-rack DupliColor rattle can to do some crabs years ago. Damned close match - I need to find it again, so I can touch up those wheels and put tires on them. Although...I can't decide if I want to run the Fiberides or not. It's getting Historic tags at new years', and will be a nice day / parade type driver. Any thoughts from the group?

Also...how do I get to post pics on here??!? <sigh>

cordes
10-22-2008, 06:54 PM
I would put the fiberides on there if it is just going to be a pleasure vehicle. You can post pics if you pay the membership fee, or you can host them elsewhere and link to them.

turbojerk
10-23-2008, 07:37 AM
Also...how do I get to post pics on here??!? <sigh>


Joe, wmail the pic's to me and I'll host them for you....

T

dodgeshadowchik
10-23-2008, 08:21 AM
turbojerk: that CSX is effin beautful!!! :P~~~

DC Turismo
11-08-2008, 10:31 PM
Got CSX-VNT #214 delivered today. DOHC! :eyebrows:

BadAssPerformance
11-09-2008, 01:42 AM
Got CSX-VNT #214 delivered today. DOHC! :eyebrows:

Que? You better start a new thread for pic sof that one!

Badger
11-09-2008, 03:09 AM
pics please!!!

turbojerk
11-09-2008, 09:41 AM
Got CSX-VNT #214 delivered today. DOHC! :eyebrows:

Yeah, WTF!?!?

Pic's Bill-I!:lol:

DC Turismo
11-09-2008, 10:19 PM
I'll have 'em up tomorrow. Too cold outside ahahha

turbojerk
11-10-2008, 07:14 AM
I'll have 'em up tomorrow. Too cold outside ahahha

.... Ok Sally!:confused:

DC Turismo
11-10-2008, 09:24 PM
Here's just a few that I snapped during my lunch break today after I washed the bird crap and pine needles off of it. I also opted to sit my louvers on the back of it to see how they look and I must say I am loving them :hail::eyebrows::amen::love::thumb:

I'm happy to say that I'll be the first to rock a combination of louvers on an 89 CSX along some other goodies I've come across :thumb:


Not quite sure what I'm doing with this car here yet. We'll see. http://www.streetsourcemag.com/Chatroom/images/130200374738PM93330.gif

turbojerk
11-10-2008, 09:48 PM
SWEET!

I say future race car!:thumb:

ScottD
11-10-2008, 10:05 PM
Thoughts on the Bra??? I kinda like the contrast....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3173/2881325186_5e3a221bf8_b.jpg

It may flap and rub the paint BE CAREFUL!!!!!

I had a similar piece on my 92 R/T before it was painted it and it did just that, it rubbed the paint on the hood.