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dunny
07-18-2007, 11:07 AM
I'd like to build an older car........like the lightest, most compact A-body. I particularly like the '63-'66 darts. I think it would be neat to stuff a turbo 2.4L in one. I know it would be a ton of work but has anyone done anything like this? What problems would need resolved? I know mounts, tranny, and rear end would need to be addressed....and I'd assume all new electronics would be required. It wouldn't happen overnight but I think it'd be cool to make it happen. I wouldn't need a 10 second beast, more along the lines of in the 13's with *decent* handling (I know a lot would have to be done). But it would be, as I've said, wicked cool. Any input?

TurboGLH
07-18-2007, 11:46 AM
Trans is fairly easy....Supra trans with a 2.5 dakota bellhousing. Rear end would simply be a choice of $$ and availability, 8-3/4 would be nice but depending on the power level an 8-1/4 may be ok.

dunny
07-18-2007, 11:49 AM
I'm looking at this:

http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/9/1/89431691.htm

I found some info online saying they weigh around 2600lbs.....that's 200lbs lighter than an SRT4 :nod: Damn this would be a sick project. My parents need to build their pole barn ASAP so I can get to work on something other than my neon :eyebrows:

turbovanmanČ
07-18-2007, 12:50 PM
I don't think it would be that hard, you have all that room in the engine compartment, you can make up your own mounts if you have any fab skills. You can choose just about any standalone system you want, IE Megasquirt, AEM, MicroTech-I'll be swapping to that over winter etc.

You would be able to build a really nice equal length header, tons of room for any IC you want and any custom intake you want. If I had the time, money and energy, I would love to build something like that, maybe even an older truck or van, :evil:

SebringLX
07-18-2007, 12:54 PM
I'm looking at this:

http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/9/1/89431691.htm

I found some info online saying they weigh around 2600lbs.....that's 200lbs lighter than an SRT4 :nod: Damn this would be a sick project. My parents need to build their pole barn ASAP so I can get to work on something other than my neon :eyebrows:
It'd probably weigh even less than that after the engine swap. I'm sure a turbo 2.4L probably weighs less than an old slant 6.

I plan on putting a turbo 2.4L into my '77 Datsun 280Z eventually. It's pretty light weight too. :thumb:

WickedShelby88
07-18-2007, 01:02 PM
Hmm a duster sounds like a good candidate as well. I know tokyo drift was kinda cheesy like the rest of them but they swap a similar engine into an old mustang. I don't see why this thing wouldn't be the baddest rice killer to squeeze almost 30 mpg out of an old car ever built.. +1 for this swap!

dunny
07-18-2007, 01:02 PM
My neon is running megasquirt so I'd probably go that route. Yeah I thought about the engine weighing a lot less too. I would have to hire out some of the fabrication work but I'd be willing to learn as much as possible to do what I can. WOW I may have to start planning this out. With the weight around 2500lbs or so, RWD, and a decent sized turbo on it I bet it would be a blast. It would also be a mad tight drifter yo! (ricer sarcasm) ;)

turbovanmanČ
07-18-2007, 01:02 PM
It'd probably weigh even less than that after the engine swap. I'm sure a turbo 2.4L probably weighs less than an old slant 6.

I plan on putting a turbo 2.4L into my '77 Datsun 280Z eventually. It's pretty light weight too. :thumb:

The hipo Rotary shop next door has tons of older Camry's, RWD Toyota's, 240's, 280's, 510's etc with turbo'd inline 6's and Microtech engine management.

Last night, they were spinning a car up on the dyno, the car had a lower growl to it, so I guessed at there 3 rotor RX7, I guess right, it has a way different howl than a 2 rotor. It put down, 610 whp at 14 psi and they had just started tuning it, :wow1:

GLHS592
07-18-2007, 01:05 PM
've wanted to do a turbo A body for a while now. I still kick myself for not buying that 1964 Dart.

dunny
07-18-2007, 05:53 PM
What year trans from a Supra? I'd imagine those can get expensive, right? I'm trying to figure up a budget....

azkcar135
07-18-2007, 06:54 PM
there was a land speed barracuda built with a 2.4 it tooks some record and it was pretty cool. i found a site on it once i'll try again. i once had a 69 valiant with a slant six i wanted to turbo that too but i had to sell it. :(

here it is!
http://www.radrides.com/69cuda.html

looking at the pics it doesn't look like your normal 2.4???? what is it????

SebringLX
07-18-2007, 10:15 PM
The hipo Rotary shop next door has tons of older Camry's, RWD Toyota's, 240's, 280's, 510's etc with turbo'd inline 6's and Microtech engine management.

Last night, they were spinning a car up on the dyno, the car had a lower growl to it, so I guessed at there 3 rotor RX7, I guess right, it has a way different howl than a 2 rotor. It put down, 610 whp at 14 psi and they had just started tuning it, :wow1:

A rotory with a lower growl? Every rotory I've ever heard sounds like a lawn mower that's about to explode. :lol: Yeah people swap every engine you can imagine into the S30 (240Z/260Z/280Z) chasis. Not very many mopar swaps out there. I think I've found 1 with a 318 in it. Most people put SBCs in them, a few SBFs, and a lot of all your popular "JDM" engines.

I'm going to run the 2.8L inline six that's in the 280Z into the ground with some Nitrous I have out in the garage once I get it running, hehe.

turbovanmanČ
07-18-2007, 10:40 PM
A rotory with a lower growl? Every rotory I've ever heard sounds like a lawn mower that's about to explode. :lol: Yeah people swap every engine you can imagine into the S30 (240Z/260Z/280Z) chasis. Not very many mopar swaps out there. I think I've found 1 with a 318 in it. Most people put SBCs in them, a few SBFs, and a lot of all your popular "JDM" engines.

I'm going to run the 2.8L inline six that's in the 280Z into the ground with some Nitrous I have out in the garage once I get it running, hehe.

Dude, you gotta hear it to believe it, its a low, deep growl, sounds unreal.

They put real mufflers on there buildups so even the 2 rotor engines sound good.

JonsGottaDusta
08-11-2007, 02:51 AM
there was a land speed barracuda built with a 2.4 it tooks some record and it was pretty cool. i found a site on it once i'll try again. i once had a 69 valiant with a slant six i wanted to turbo that too but i had to sell it. :(

here it is!
http://www.radrides.com/69cuda.html

looking at the pics it doesn't look like your normal 2.4???? what is it????

That is a sprint motor if I remember correctly. A stock block couldn't handle the power they are putting through that thing. They are hoping to break the 300mph barrier at the Salt Flats this week.:thumb:

- Jon

dunny
08-30-2007, 12:27 PM
Just landed a 2.4L for my project. Now on the hunt for some stock SRT4 rods/pistons. This project just might happen.....

Vigo
08-30-2007, 07:13 PM
piston/rod assembly is $50 a piece at dealer according to some posts ive read.

dunny
09-04-2007, 08:34 AM
Yeah $200 for a set. I've found used sets for $90 shipped. Not sure what I'll do yet. I want to get the engine first and see what condition it is in. Should have it sometime this week.

Millerman340
09-04-2007, 04:46 PM
There is a SOLID 66 dart here in FL for $1000 already in primer & ready to be put back together. I thought about making a altered wheel base car with it.:love:

dunny
09-05-2007, 04:12 PM
A '66 would work great. Can you PM me some info about it? If I can see some photos I may be interested in buying it and shipping it up here to Ohio. Thanks.

Millerman340
09-05-2007, 04:29 PM
I'll take some pic's of it. It's in a towing & storage place that sells cars also. They had it marked at $1800 for a long time thinking it's a muscle car or something. I've kept track of it ,It's a solid car.. Dave.

dunny
09-05-2007, 04:41 PM
That would be great! I appreciate anything you can do. Of course, the body is the most important thing to me because I really don't have any experience fixing rust and such. Sounds like it would work well for me. Thanks!

Millerman340
09-09-2007, 12:26 PM
Heres a few pic's , if interested I'll call them to go inside for more . Dave.

dunny
09-09-2007, 02:54 PM
Thanks for the photos! It doesn't look bad at all. Strangely enough, a friend called me this morning about a '63 GT that was in the local paper. I stopped by to check it out and it looked decent.....rust was minimal but there were lots of dings here and there. The only thing missing was the front bumper. It started and ran fine, had around 90k miles on it. The guy wants $2100 which is way too steep for me. He said he is negotiable but I didn't even make an offer....I don't know a lot about old cars so any offer I made would have been going off of pure ignorance. I'm thinking about stopping by again and driving it.....I might go $1500 for it. Haven't really decided yet. We'll see. Thanks again for the photos. For now I'll pass on it.

Millerman340
09-09-2007, 04:50 PM
By the time you ship it you'll be close to $1500 so that might work to find one closer.

WVRampage
09-09-2007, 05:35 PM
That would be a cool swap.there may be a way to make a adapter plate like the one they did on monster garage a whille back then you could use any trans you wanted.

dunny
09-10-2007, 10:23 AM
Yeah, I think something cool could be fabbed up. There was a ton of room under the hood. The one I looked at was a push button atx car. I'm thinking it might be better to find one with an mtx already....

jamesmonty
10-18-2007, 02:36 PM
here you go dunny--> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-Plymouth-Scamp-with-198-Slant-Six_W0QQitemZ270175944519QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6387QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Let me know when you start your project, I live in Morrow and could lend you a hand.

Turbodave
10-18-2007, 03:43 PM
Yeah, I think something cool could be fabbed up. There was a ton of room under the hood. The one I looked at was a push button atx car. I'm thinking it might be better to find one with an mtx already....

Keep in mind that most of the early a-body mtx cars are 3 on the tree, so you will probably have to cut a hole in the floor no matter what you do.

spoolinhard
01-31-2008, 06:22 PM
Someone buy my A-body. 66 valiant convertible. AZ car. pics at www.kalebcue.50megs.com