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Turbo224
07-06-2007, 03:09 AM
Been gathering stuff for the R/T for a while now, just need a turbo and I can get it all together.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/Head5.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/Head1.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/Head3.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/Head6.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/Head4.jpg

Head went out to Lonewolf for the crack to be fixed. Had them rebuild the head, do a "performance" valve job, and tap and plug that hole on the surface. They also just finished up my stage 1 cams. I still think I am going to clean up the ports a little bit, just enough to make them round.

Motor came out running just fine, but I figured it was time for a few upgrades. So I took it over to a local shop.

Forged Venolias
File fit sealed power rings
ARP rod bolts and main studs
Mehling high volume oil pump
Cryo I-Shaft
Removed balance shafts
Brass freze plugs
Radiused all the oil holes
Shot peened rods
Fully balanced and blue printed
Obviously new bearings all throughout

I hope they did it all correctly!

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/parts1.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/venolias2.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/motor1.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/motor2.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/motor4.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/motor6.jpg

raccoon
07-06-2007, 06:07 AM
looks good, keep going.

iTurbo
07-08-2007, 02:43 AM
Looks great! How much did it cost at the machine shop to have the work done? I have a TIII shortblock here I was going to use until I found it had 1/8" crankwalk and chipped I-shaft bushings.

TurboGLH
07-08-2007, 09:33 AM
Very pretty. I kind of like the cast iron paint colored paint on the black rather than the standard black.

Turbo224
07-08-2007, 01:45 PM
Looks great! How much did it cost at the machine shop to have the work done? I have a TIII shortblock here I was going to use until I found it had 1/8" crankwalk and chipped I-shaft bushings.

I think I am into the whole short block right around $1600. I was planning on it being a little cheaper than just buying one from Cindy, but I spent a little extra on having it balanced ($150). Plus I really wanted to keep my original motor in the car instead of sending it back to cindy as a core.

Turbo224
07-08-2007, 01:47 PM
Very pretty. I kind of like the cast iron paint colored paint on the black rather than the standard black.

Thanks. I use that stuff on everything. It's called "Stovebright" and is techically made for stoves and bbqs! Although on the back of the can it says "also great for headers, motors, manifolds etc..." Its super high heat resistant, dries really fast, and sticks to anything. And you cant tell in the picture, but in the sun it has a lot of metel flake in it so its has a cool shine.

shelby zed
07-08-2007, 02:12 PM
that looks exactly like the goodson cast paint i used, looks super clean and dries fast. excuse my ignorance, but what is the nipple for on the front of the block?

edit heres mine :D
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/2598000-2598999/2598152_20.jpg

TurboGLH
07-08-2007, 02:33 PM
that looks exactly like the goodson cast paint i used, looks super clean and dries fast. excuse my ignorance, but what is the nipple for on the front of the block?

edit heres mine :D
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/2598000-2598999/2598152_20.jpg

Nipple is an oil drainback from the pcv system.

Turbo224
07-27-2007, 01:52 AM
Well, I had a little time today while I was waiting for the exhaust to get put on the omni. I decided I would try to polish up the stock cam gears for the R/T and get them looking a little better. I didn't spend as much time as I probably should have, but they look a lot better than before. I also installed the Stage 1 cams in there. I will get the rocker assembly on there tomorrow and at least the head will be ready to go on the block when ever I get all the little stuff back on that.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/Headassembly1.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/Headassembly2.jpg

GLHSKEN
07-27-2007, 05:46 AM
Looking good...

Turbo224
08-22-2007, 01:09 PM
Well, I am still plugging along. It seems like this project is actually slowing down now the closer I get to having it together. I really need an oil pan right now, and then I can get the head put on. But atleast the short block is ready to go.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/arpandcometic.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/midrebuild1.jpg

Still need to order my turbo, a ceramic four puck disc, and finish porting my exhaust manifold.

Turbo224
09-05-2007, 02:49 AM
Here are a few more pics from my build. I have been trying to finish porting my exhaust manifold, but here are a few mid progress pictures.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/midport1.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/midport2.jpg

I am kind of lame about the little details on my car, so I have spent a ton of time sand blasting parts, and repainting them. Here is a pile of them waiting to go back on the motor.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/partsprep.jpg

I mocked everything up here just to make sure I remembered how everything goes back on.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/mock-up5.jpg

After I get a new oil pan, I will install the head and do the final assembly of all the accessories and stuff. I can actually see light at the end of the tunnel...

iTurbo
09-06-2007, 01:39 PM
Everything looks awesome:thumb: What kind of paint did you use for the black accessory parts? Are you leaving the aluminum parts raw finish?

overlordsshadow
09-06-2007, 01:43 PM
Absolutely amazing man. Hope you get the power you are looking for.

2.216VTurbo
09-06-2007, 03:07 PM
Absolutely amazing man. Hope you get the power you are looking for.


Meh, he only needs to make 250WHP or so, it's going in an L body:lol:

Turbo224
09-06-2007, 04:46 PM
Meh, he only needs to make 250WHP or so, it's going in an L body:lol:

Actually, this one is going in my IROC R/T. The GLHS motor is still sitting in my other wrecked R/T. :D

As for the finishing of the other stuff, I used a cheapo harbor freight sand blaster to clean everything. On my first attempt on the black stuff, I primed everything, then coated them with about three coats of gloss black, and then cleared them. After looking at the pieces, I decided I didn't like the gloss look. So I sanded them all down and used a semi-gloss black with a clear coat to seal it. I really like the look of th semi gloss so it will stay that way. All the nuts and bolts went through the same process. If I was rich I would have just powder coated everything. As for the aluminum stuff, I really like the look of clean raw aluminum, but it gets dirty really easy. I am experimenting with clear coating them to see how they turn out. In the picture, the a/c bracket has been cleared. I just hope it will help keep some of the greese and dirt from sticking to the parts. I did however paint the ower steering pump bracket black even though it shouldn't be. It will hide it back there much better.

Directconnection
09-06-2007, 08:27 PM
Looks about the way mine is coming along (except slowly)

Bet you cannot wait for it to be going down the road.

Guess you and I can't afford to powder coat every nut and bolt. I was told to use engine enamel for the brackets and gizmos because it gets real tough after the engine bay has seen a few heat cycles. What I found recently, is that the Duplicolor caliper paint seems to be pretty darn stout for a spray can paint. Almost as hard as the k-frame and control arms I had sprayed with dupont professionaly. Dowside is the caliper paint is like $6.50 a can.

Turbo224
09-07-2007, 01:37 AM
Looks about the way mine is coming along (except slowly)

Bet you cannot wait for it to be going down the road.

Guess you and I can't afford to powder coat every nut and bolt. I was told to use engine enamel for the brackets and gizmos because it gets real tough after the engine bay has seen a few heat cycles. What I found recently, is that the Duplicolor caliper paint seems to be pretty darn stout for a spray can paint. Almost as hard as the k-frame and control arms I had sprayed with dupont professionaly. Dowside is the caliper paint is like $6.50 a can.

I have been working on this for so long that I am not that crazy about it right now. I have a ton going on now so even when it gets back together I wont have a lot of time to mess with it. Next spring will be really fun though. Before it goes back together it will have a 50 trim and a rebuild 568 with a quiafe so it should be a load of fun when it gets back on the road. I have three other motor swaps/ installs to do after this one, so it will mostly be nice to have one of the four done and running.

As for the caliper paint, that sounds like it would be tough enough for under the hood. My only concern is that it would be too glossy. I am a big fan of the semi gloss stuff after doing my brackets. Maybe one day when I am rich I will just have it all powder coated! :D

Turbo224
09-12-2007, 02:22 AM
Got the head installed and torqued down and did a little bit more test fitting things. After I get the timing set I can do a final assembly. :D I ended up breaking down and buying some silver paint and doing almost all the bare aluminum brackets and pulleys. I dont like it very much, but it looks better than I thought it would. The pictures with the timing belt on were just taken for reference because I need to get a new belt. Sorry the pictures suck. My camera aparently doesn't like me much. I had about five more pictures that didn't come out at all.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/acc1.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/acc2.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/t-beltrouting.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/t-beltrouting2.jpg

Oh yeah, my four puck clutch disc, and some fresh powder coated valve covers and an intake manifold are in the mail. :woot:

Turbo224
09-12-2007, 03:47 PM
Gathered togeether most of the hardware I need today and did a little more mock fitting. I had some of my stock bolts plated, and then bought some ss stuff for some other pieces.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/Mock-up6.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/mock-up10.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/mock-up8.jpg

turbovanmanČ
09-12-2007, 03:55 PM
Looks good, mine is almost ready to put back together, :thumb:

Turbo224
09-12-2007, 04:07 PM
Thanks. Be sure to take a lot of pictures. I always like to see other peoples projects pics.

turbovanmanČ
09-12-2007, 04:15 PM
Thanks. Be sure to take a lot of pictures. I always like to see other peoples projects pics.


I have started, go here-



http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16425&highlight=TIII

mcsvt
09-12-2007, 04:18 PM
That's coming along very nicely :nod:

minigts
09-12-2007, 05:45 PM
Jealousy becomes me....

iTurbo
09-12-2007, 06:48 PM
ARghh you guys are beating me!

I'm done with the parts collection phase, the machine shop finished my TIII head yesterday, and they are doing the shortblock as soon as I get some new pistons/rods. I'm probably going to go with the same 2.5L/Eagle combo that Simon is using. New A568/A523/OBX from Cliff is ready to install too. Donor car is successfully converted to SBEC last week.

Turbo224
09-12-2007, 07:12 PM
ARghh you guys are beating me!

I'm done with the parts collection phase, the machine shop finished my TIII head yesterday, and they are doing the shortblock as soon as I get some new pistons/rods. I'm probably going to go with the same 2.5L/Eagle combo that Simon is using. New A568/A523/OBX from Cliff is ready to install too. Donor car is successfully converted to SBEC last week.

This going in the Lancer? That should be a pretty unique ride when you are done. As for being behind, I dont have much sympathy! :D I have been working on this for quite some time now and it is driving me nuts not having it done!

GLHS592
09-12-2007, 07:38 PM
I agree, it looks great.

turbovanmanČ
09-12-2007, 07:40 PM
This going in the Lancer? That should be a pretty unique ride when you are done. As for being behind, I dont have much sympathy! :D I have been working on this for quite some time now and it is driving me nuts not having it done!


Me too, lol.


Been waiting since Feb, had no boost since then, I am starting to die a little inside, :(

iTurbo
09-13-2007, 01:35 AM
This going in the Lancer? That should be a pretty unique ride when you are done. As for being behind, I dont have much sympathy! :D I have been working on this for quite some time now and it is driving me nuts not having it done!

Yep, Shelby Lancer #127. A year ago I spun a rod bearing in the TII engine, and that kind of got the ball rolling. The year before, I redid the drivetrain in my Spirit R/T so that was my initiation into the TIII and now I'm just kinda bored with the SOHC stuff even though I know it has a lot of potential. I've already upgraded the car with '91 K-frame/control arms, 11" R/T brakes, poly everywhere etc...with a 2.5L TIII it should be hilarious fun on the street, although I plan to use stock turbo/intercooler at first.

It's nice to see other peoples projects and how they are coming along. Really gets me motivated to move my project along, even though somedays it's only one or two little things I can get done.

Turbo224
09-26-2007, 01:56 AM
Well, here are a few more pictures. My ceramic four puck showed up today, along with my powder coated valve covers and intake mani. Apparently the powder coated stuff must have come from two different batches because of the three pieces, there are two different colors and two different textures. They look pretty awful on ther right now. I am a little dissapointed because I wanted to start the final assembly today, but now I will have to figure something out. I had a little time to polish up my stock fuel rail, which will probably be time wasted because I want to upgrade eventually. I also had time to get the egt bung installed in the exhaust manifold for my pyro gauge. After getting a few different opinions about were best to mount it, I decided to put it in the number 1 runner because that cylinder is farthest from the water box and will naturally run a little hotter than the others. Anyways, evetually I will get it all assembled and be ready for the turbo to show up.

Sorry about the blurry pictures, either the camera or the user doesn't work properly. :D

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/disccompare.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/egtgauge.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/finishingmotor1.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/finishingmotor2.jpg

Turbodave
09-26-2007, 09:09 AM
Looks good in the pictures, makes me want to put one of my R/T's together (have to finish a few others first).

turbovanmanČ
09-26-2007, 12:49 PM
Very nice, :clap:

I have to rebuild one of my A/C compressors then I can paint it and install it. Right now, I am won't have it, :(

No adjustable cam gears?

Turbo224
09-26-2007, 01:52 PM
Very nice, :clap:

I have to rebuild one of my A/C compressors then I can paint it and install it. Right now, I am won't have it, :(

No adjustable cam gears?

No, didn't go with the cam gears. Building this on a budget so I sort of had to pick and choose the stuff I wanted and the stuff that would have to come later. :(

turbovanmanČ
09-26-2007, 02:26 PM
No, didn't go with the cam gears. Building this on a budget so I sort of had to pick and choose the stuff I wanted and the stuff that would have to come later. :(


I started off on a budget then that went out the window really fast, :( lol!

minigts
09-26-2007, 03:45 PM
No, didn't go with the cam gears. Building this on a budget so I sort of had to pick and choose the stuff I wanted and the stuff that would have to come later. :(

Wait, wait, wait....budget? Man, there is NO WAY you're on a budget with your stuff looking that awesome. That's like ordering a Super Sized tripple-bacon-cheeseburger with onion rings and a Diet Coke, because you're watching your weight.

Turbo224
09-26-2007, 05:07 PM
Haha, good point. It does sound a little stupid saying I built this on a budget. I am still a college student, so I have to restrain myself a little bit. :D This whole project started with a blown head gasket and has been the ultimate snow ball. Right now I just want the motor in the car and running. Then atleast I can enjoy it a little bit. Keep in mind that I have a lot more time than money, so disregard the detail work I have spent on this because that doesn't count. Although some to think of it, I have more than $200 in powder coating and paint costs alone. Thats depressing... :confused2:

minigts
09-26-2007, 05:09 PM
Haha, good point. It does sound a little stupid saying I built this on a budget. I am still a college student, so I have to restrain myself a little bit. :D This whole project started with a blown head gasket and has been the ultimate snow ball. Right now I just want the motor in the car and running. Then atleast I can enjoy it a little bit. Keep in mind that I have a lot more time than money, so disregard the detail work I have spent on this because that doesn't count. Although some to think of it, I have more than $200 in powder coating and paint costs alone. Thats depressing... :confused2:

No, you're just doing it right. ;) Looks great and stay in school! Stay clean, keep the dream.

mpgmike
09-29-2007, 05:15 AM
Has anybody else noticed the spare TIII head in the background of many of these pics?!?!?!?

Mike

mech1nxh
09-29-2007, 07:09 AM
^ yes...and the RB short block:nod:

GLHSKEN
09-29-2007, 09:03 AM
Has anybody else noticed the spare TIII head in the background of many of these pics?!?!?!?

Mike

Doesn't every TIII owner have one??

86Shelby
09-29-2007, 11:56 AM
Doesn't every TIII owner have one??

I do believe it's required for some reason.

minigts
09-29-2007, 05:13 PM
Doesn't every TIII owner have one??

I don't. :( Another would be a nice thing. An extra motor would be a nice thing. ;)

turbovanmanČ
09-29-2007, 06:04 PM
I don't. :( Another would be a nice thing. An extra motor would be a nice thing. ;)

I hav 3 heads and one shortblock, :clap:

LowSL2
09-29-2007, 06:23 PM
I'm building up a supply of T3 parts. I have a block, crank, rods, pistons. Just need a head and I'll be happy.

Turbo224
09-30-2007, 01:12 PM
Good eye there. I have two extra 16v heads for this car, and one extra short block. I just assume my cars could explode at any moment, so I try to keep as many extra parts around as I can. :)

jamesmonty
10-01-2007, 03:02 PM
I just assume my cars could explode at any moment, so I try to keep as many extra parts around as I can. :)

Thats what I tell my wife, but I don't think she's buying it. But instead of parts I have three extra cars. :thumb:

LowSL2
10-01-2007, 04:43 PM
I have extra parts and extra cars. Which means I have no extra money.

Turbo224
10-22-2007, 06:32 PM
Well, I have been dragging my feet lately with my R/T, but I have still been gathering a few things here and there. These are my latest pictures:

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/shiney1.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/shiney2.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/shiney3.JPG

Im probably the only idiot to ever polish their stock injectors.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/newvacuum1.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/newvacuum2.JPG

I changed my vacuum block setup a little. From the top you can barely see any of it. When the upper radiator hose is installed, it's invisable.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/egtclose-up.JPG

Close up of my egt installed.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/shortshifter1.JPG

B&M Short throw shifter for the 568

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/shortshifter2.JPG

Compared to the stock shifter.

Thats it for now. I have five packages in the mail right now though. They should all be here by the end of the week!

Turbodave
10-22-2007, 06:45 PM
Looks good! And your not the first idiot to polish stock injectors, I spent 2 hours last night wetsanding and polishing a tail-light if that makes you feel any better.

Turbo224
10-22-2007, 06:54 PM
Looks good! And your not the first idiot to polish stock injectors, I spent 2 hours last night wetsanding and polishing a tail-light if that makes you feel any better.

Thats does make me feel a little better. Although I am probably the first person to do it when they have a set of brand new +40's that will go on after the motor is broken in. I like shiney things though. :D

turbovanmanČ
10-23-2007, 01:00 PM
I know I've said this but you should really get the adjustable cam gears, :thumb:

Looks good. Mines getting dirty already, :mecry:

Turbo224
10-23-2007, 02:08 PM
I know I've said this but you should really get the adjustable cam gears, :thumb:

Looks good. Mines getting dirty already, :mecry:


Yeah, I would love to add a set. I think I will have to wait on them though. I have already spent way more on this project than I ever intended to do! But I think everybody's projects tend to snowball.

Turbo224
10-29-2007, 05:58 PM
Its been like Christmas for me this summer with all the stuff I have ordered, but this has probably been my favorite package.

Turbonetics 50 trim T3/T4 with Stg. 2 wheel.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/50trim6.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/50trim4.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/50trim3.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/50trim2.JPG

ATP Ultimate internal wastegate with 3" vband setup and their 3" short leg modular pipe. I also have a 3" flex pipe in the mail that I will have use to help line it up to the exisiting exhaust.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/atpstuff.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/turbocombo1.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/turbocombo3.JPG

Turbonetics large can wastegate actuator with TU's Z bracket. I am not sure if the bracket is going to work.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/wgact2.JPG

Just need to figure out how to reclock the turbo, and I can bolt everything up and get the motor in th car!

minigts
10-29-2007, 06:07 PM
Its been like Christmas for me this summer with all the stuff I have ordered, but this has probably been my favorite package.

Turbonetics 50 trim T3/T4 with Stg. 2 wheel.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/50trim6.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/50trim4.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/50trim3.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/50trim2.JPG

ATP Ultimate internal wastegate with 3" vband setup and their 3" short leg modular pipe. I also have a 3" flex pipe in the mail that I will have use to help line it up to the exisiting exhaust.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/atpstuff.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/turbocombo1.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/turbocombo3.JPG

Turbonetics large can wastegate actuator with TU's Z bracket. I am not sure if the bracket is going to work.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/wgact2.JPG

Just need to figure out how to reclock the turbo, and I can bolt everything up and get the motor in th car!

Man, if you mention a budget again in this thread, I'm going to pound you!!!

VERY NICE on the turbo!!!!

Way to document the progress, too!! I was looking through the thread the other day and saw you and I have the same IC. It works great for tight space having the inlet and outlet on the same side.

Keep up the good work!

Turbo224
10-29-2007, 06:14 PM
Thanks for the compliments. I should probably say it was built slowly on a budget, but I have spent way too much on it. As for the IC, you are right, They are super easy to install and run piping to. I guess ya sacrifice flow for simplicity with the double pass design.

I will try to keep the pictures coming as the car gets put back together. I spent a bunch of timing pulling the stock wiring harness apart and re wrapping them. I think I am going to put on new shocks and struts on before I get it running. Since I wont be driving it this winter, I may as well get it over with while it is still on jackstands because I wont be able to drive it untill next spring. :(

Turbo224
11-02-2007, 01:14 AM
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/turbo3.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/turbo6.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/turbo1.JPG

Stock oil feed and return are going to work just fine. I did however turn the center section a bit forward to help ease the fitment. I dont think it should be a problem. I am going to have to figure something creative out for the coolant feed because the stock one probably wont work. I have also found out that the TU's "Z" wastegate actuator bracket doesn't even come close to bolting right up. The bolts on the turbo are too far apart, and the brackets isn't even at the right angle anyways. I will need to add a little bit to one side, and cut a little from the other. Ill fgure it out though. Sure glad I am dealing with it all while the motor is still on the stand!

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/mounts.JPG

All four poly bushing mounts should hold everything nice and snug.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/fuelgoodies.JPG

Walbro 255, accufab afpr, and +40's for after the break in period. :thumb:

turbovanmanČ
11-02-2007, 01:24 AM
Yep, clocking and installing a turbo is sure easier on an engine stand. Good thing though the TIII turbo is a piece of cake to get to in the car, :amen:

Turbo224
11-02-2007, 04:00 AM
Yep, clocking and installing a turbo is sure easier on an engine stand. Good thing though the TIII turbo is a piece of cake to get to in the car, :amen:


No kidding! 8 valvers really suck! I do have to say, turbo placement is the only thing I will every envy about the import guys. :mad:

Turbo224
11-02-2007, 07:29 PM
Well, I hope this fuel pump issue gets resolved. I would hate to put in a crap fuel pump.

Rebuilt 568 with quaife ready to go!

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/5682.JPG

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/5681.JPG

All my coolant and oil lines are ready to go, just need to pick up a 45 degree fitting for the coolant feed to get it right. Wastegate bracket will work, but I need to add a piece to the bottom so it is long enough to reach a second bolt. I also had to drill out the two bolt holes for the actuator because they were to small on the bracket.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/wastegateinstall.JPG

zin
11-06-2007, 02:48 AM
Well, I hope this fuel pump issue gets resolved. I would hate to put in a crap fuel pump.

Rebuilt 568 with quaife ready to go!

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/5682.JPG



I'm curious what you did to rebuild the 568? Was is just a reseal and new bearings or did you have to replace any "hard parts". If so, where did you find replacements? I'll be doing a OBX (yeah, I'm cheap! :o ), and may want/need to freshen it up so I'm very interested in what you did.

Mike

Turbo224
11-06-2007, 11:54 AM
To my knowledge, only the seals and bearings were replaced. None of the hard parts required any attention. These are pretty stout afterall.

zin
11-06-2007, 06:45 PM
To my knowledge, only the seals and bearings were replaced. None of the hard parts required any attention. These are pretty stout after all.

That's kinda what I expected, but was hopeful someone found a source for "hard parts" for our MTs. Thanks for the info!

Mike

Turbo224
12-03-2007, 02:45 PM
Well, I finally got the motor in the R/T a couple weeks ago, but here are the pictures.

The Z bracket I bought didn't fit, so this was my first attempt to get it to work.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/oldwgact.jpg

When I had the motor in place, it turns out that the brackets hit the firewall, so this is what I ended up with.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/fixedwgbracket.jpg

I hated the way my stock turbo coolant line fit, so I found a local place that can build them for me for super cheap. This is what I ended up with.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/newcoolantline.jpg

I was sent a four puck clutch disc that didn't fit, so that set me back a week. But it all got figured out.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/flywheel.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/clutchinstalled.jpg

I realized that the T3's dont have as many lifting point locations, so Iused an extra long bolt in the top trans bolt hole.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/liftpoint.jpg

And here is the rear after I got the starter with the heat sheild put back on there.
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/rearviewbeforeinstall.jpg

And the process of lowering it in.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/lift2.jpg
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/lifted1.jpg
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/lift5.jpg
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/lift6.jpg
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/lift7.jpg
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/motorin1.jpg

As for the fitment, everything clears now with about 2" to spare. Not too bad. If you look closely you can see one of the bolts from th heat sheild is actually touching the wastgate actuator. So there isn't much room for anything else back there. The exhaust looks like it will line up pretty well with a little cutting and welding of the down pipe I bought.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/rearfitment.jpg

And thats that. Everything went smoothly considering I did this all by my self. The only problems that I had was the wastegate actuator bracket not fitting. Funny thing was that I managed to do it with out scratching or denting anything, but I noticed as I was finishing up that the radiator was installed the entire time. I never took it out after fabbing up the brackets for it. Anyways, I still have a ton of work to do before it runs. I wont have time to touch it for another couple weeks, but at least I got it all in before the foot of snow we got this week!

overlordsshadow
12-03-2007, 02:50 PM
Thats a damn nice project near completed my friend. Hope she runs as good as she looks. Why is it that we call cars women when women don't know how to change the damned oil?

86Shelby
12-03-2007, 03:44 PM
Looks really good!!! Wish my stuff was that clean.


I wont have time to touch it for another couple weeks, but at least I got it all in before the foot of snow we got this week!

That is a good thing.:nod:

t3rse
12-03-2007, 04:42 PM
Thats a damn nice project near completed my friend. Hope she runs as good as she looks. Why is it that we call cars women when women don't know how to change the damned oil?

becuase they are finicky and as much as we hate them we still love them more.

Turbo224
12-04-2007, 03:01 PM
Thanks for the comments guys. I started this project in spring, but somehow it feels like much longer. I still have a lot of work though which will have to be done in the cold. :mad:

WOP'R
12-12-2007, 04:20 AM
how the hick did u get the engine to fit with all the pulleys, intake and rad installed!!?!?!

Turbo224
12-12-2007, 04:39 AM
Actually it went it rather smoothly. I did put two small scratches on the bottom of the oil pan from where the passenger side motor mount bolts to, but other than that, I just did it very slowly and carefully. The leveling bar that I used makes it a ton easier. Keep in mind that I did this all on my own. An extra set of eyes and hands would make it even easier.

On a side note, I was able to work on it a bit more last week. All the wiring harness, fuel lines, heater hoses, shift cables, and some other various things are connected. Right now I need to get the new struts and springs put in the front so I can get the fron axles installed and finally get it off jackstands. Then I will have to drag it down the street to have the exhaust welded up. After that its just a matter of getting my gauges hooked up, vacuum lines routed, piece the new IC pipes together, and then start her up!

Ondonti
12-12-2007, 04:56 AM
ahh Im really happy with your turbo and wastegate choices :D

overlordsshadow
12-12-2007, 09:50 AM
Looks like you still have at least a week or few to go. Vids of startup and pics of final install when done?

Turbo224
12-12-2007, 03:35 PM
ahh Im really happy with your turbo and wastegate choices :D

Thanks. I should have just gone with an external wg, but I didn't want to deal with any more fabrication at this point. As for the turbo, I'm sure it flow plenty for what I want this car to do.


Looks like you still have at least a week or few to go. Vids of startup and pics of final install when done?

I probably wont touch the car until next year. I will be done with school for the semester after thursday, but since this is our busy season at work, I will be picking up shifts every day until after christmas. I need the money right now a lot more than I need the car to run. I will get done eventually though. And yeah, I will post some pictures and a video when I get it running.

Ondonti
12-12-2007, 05:30 PM
Thanks. I should have just gone with an external wg, but I didn't want to deal with any more fabrication at this point. As for the turbo, I'm sure it flow plenty for what I want this car to do.


Hah well I would be even happier with external but I love ditching the stock style parts and you did it!

What flanges are on your turbo/manifold?

Austrian Dodge
12-12-2007, 07:34 PM
what would you think...

he's using a homemade v-band style SV :rolleyes:

1+1=2

Turbo224
12-13-2007, 01:30 PM
what would you think...

he's using a homemade v-band style SV :rolleyes:

1+1=2


haha, I dont even have the skills to try to make my own parts. But the down pipe bolts to the wastegate with a 3" v-band.

overlordsshadow
12-13-2007, 01:34 PM
Damn this car looks good, I am scrolling down this page to see new posts and the pictures just blow my mind.

Turbo224
12-14-2007, 04:15 AM
Damn this car looks good, I am scrolling down this page to see new posts and the pictures just blow my mind.

Thanks man. I am pretty pleased with what I have so far. I hope the motor and trans will be good for a long time to come. There are only a few things I will buy after the break in period. (devils own, TU fuel rail, Wideband, stage 3 cal) I just picked up a odb scanner, and I have the +40's, accufab and the walbro that I need. I have owned this car for a long time and finally decided to buy all the crap I have always wanted for it. So this was like my year long christmas with all the ackages coming.

I still need to get the stock shocks and struts and springs pulled out and put in the new stuff. I really need to turn my attention to the exterior now. I need to polish all my wheels,the car really needs a buff and wax, and the clear on the roof needs some attention. Hopefully I will get to enjoy this car all next summer since I think it will be my daily driver while I pull my glh apart.

Anyone have any suggestions for what else I should do to the car while its apart?

Turbo224
12-14-2007, 04:37 AM
I never did post pictures of my IC install. I got a good deal on it, but I realize that its ot going to flow as well as a spearco or any other single pass cooler. One day ill buy a nice one.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/newIC.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/ICBrackets.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/ICmockup.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/ICinstalled2.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/ICinstalled1.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/ICinstalled5.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/radiatorbrackets.jpg

turbovanmanČ
12-18-2007, 04:42 PM
IC install looks kickass, :nod:

Sometimes you gotta give up a bit of flow for a nice install. I doubt that won't hurt you too much, ;)

overlordsshadow
12-18-2007, 05:49 PM
Is that the stock, fullsized rad?

Turbodave
12-18-2007, 06:09 PM
Is that the stock, fullsized rad?

Looks like the stock TIII radiator with the intercooler removed and that's where the plumbing goes through.

Still looks good Tyler, great to see all the pictures of it:thumb:

Turbo224
12-19-2007, 04:48 AM
IC install looks kickass, :nod:

Sometimes you gotta give up a bit of flow for a nice install. I doubt that won't hurt you too much, ;)

Yeah, the simplicity of the install more than makes up for it. By the time I have the car broken in and running 18-20 psi I will probably be looking for a better IC anyways.


Is that the stock, fullsized rad?

Yeah, stock T3 radiator for now. This car has always run hot on the freeway in the summer. If I cant fix it with an aftermarket radiator fan I will try to upgrade to a two core aluminum radiator. I just want to be able to drive it in the summer and not have to worry. Maybe an oil cooler should be on my wish list.


Looks like the stock TIII radiator with the intercooler removed and that's where the plumbing goes through.

Still looks good Tyler, great to see all the pictures of it:thumb:

Thanks! It always bugs me reading about peoples projects and never getting to see any pictures. So I try to post as many as possible, even if they are kind of lame.

mario03SRT
12-19-2007, 03:13 PM
Beautiful piece of work and hardware.:thumb:

Congrats,

Marion

Turbo224
12-23-2007, 06:05 PM
It isn't much, but monday I had some time to piece together the motor a littl bit more. I really hate all the vacuum lines and the pcv system on the front of the intake, but I am not really sure where else to put it all.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/motorupdate1.jpg

I also had som time to start working on the IC pipes. This is the upper pipe obviously. All I did was put together a few pieces the way I wanted them and had an exhaust shop do the welds. I brought them all back to the shop and ground down the welds and ran them all through a bead roller to give the pipes a lip on each end. These should work great.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/icpipes2.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/icpipes3.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/icpipes1.jpg

I am unsure how I want to finish them. I was thinking that I would just spray it down with some textured semi gloss black paint and see if I like it that way. Then I would eventually powdercoat it all. I am also considering polishing them all by hand. I think that would look kind of cool. I dont want to chrome them though. Anyone have any thoughts?

GLHSKEN
12-23-2007, 07:10 PM
Simple polish job...

LowSL2
12-23-2007, 07:24 PM
Polish them. Sears sells a decent polishing kit that works really well on stainless steel. Just clean the pipes with brake cleaner first.

Aries_Turbo
12-23-2007, 09:06 PM
nice job.

just do a boost gauge before and after the turbo so you can see the pressure drop. if it isnt that bad, keep it as it will cool well.

Brian

turbovanmanČ
12-24-2007, 03:35 AM
I am unsure how I want to finish them. I was thinking that I would just spray it down with some textured semi gloss black paint and see if I like it that way. Then I would eventually powdercoat it all. I am also considering polishing them all by hand. I think that would look kind of cool. I dont want to chrome them though. Anyone have any thoughts?


I don't think regular polishing will work as you had to grind down the metal, you would need to start with sandpaper and work your way down to a very fine grit but it would look nice. Simple paint would do the trick too, maybe the factory red crinkle paint, :nod:

Turbo224
12-24-2007, 04:44 AM
I don't think regular polishing will work as you had to grind down the metal, you would need to start with sandpaper and work your way down to a very fine grit but it would look nice. Simple paint would do the trick too, maybe the factory red crinkle paint, :nod:

I thought about doing it all in wrinkle black, but I think that would look a bit much under there. I think I am going to try to do a simple polish job with some sand paper just to get it shiney looking (not mirror finish or anything like that) and see what it looks like.

rich tideswell
12-24-2007, 02:58 PM
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/icpipes2.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/icpipes3.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/icpipes1.jpg

I am unsure how I want to finish them. I was thinking that I would just spray it down with some textured semi gloss black paint and see if I like it that way. Then I would eventually powdercoat it all. I am also considering polishing them all by hand. I think that would look kind of cool. I dont want to chrome them though. Anyone have any thoughts?

crinkle satin black powder coating:nod:

2.216VTurbo
12-25-2007, 02:49 AM
Those strait pieces with the discolored seam weld aren't stainless are they? Crinckle black FTW! Painted black underhood stuff just dissapears:)

Turbo224
12-25-2007, 06:30 AM
Those strait pieces with the discolored seam weld aren't stainless are they? Crinckle black FTW! Painted black underhood stuff just dissapears:)

No, its not stainless. Thats sort of my dilema, do I want it to dissapear, or do I want it to draw attention? I cant decided! :confused2:

dds78910
12-25-2007, 05:21 PM
Lookin good Tyler!:thumb:

turbovanmanČ
12-28-2007, 01:37 AM
Crinkle or flat black would look good too, :nod:

iTurbo
12-28-2007, 01:37 AM
wrinkle black +1.

rich tideswell
12-28-2007, 12:32 PM
No, its not stainless. Thats sort of my dilema, do I want it to dissapear, or do I want it to draw attention? I cant decided! :confused2:


If you polish the tubes, you're going to spend more time cleaning them and get crabby when you see finger print smudges all over them becuase it's right in your face..... crinkle satin black powder coating you don't have to worry to much about and gives more of an O.E.M. look.

86Shelby
12-28-2007, 01:45 PM
Polished pipes look nice, but are a pain to keep clean. Spots galore, constantly cleaning/polishing, it's a lot of work.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd65/86Shelby/IMG_7292.jpg

Turbo224
12-29-2007, 04:00 AM
Polished pipes look nice, but are a pain to keep clean. Spots galore, constantly cleaning/polishing, it's a lot of work.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd65/86Shelby/IMG_7292.jpg

Yeah, I love the look of the polished pipes, but you are dead on about keeping them clean. That would drive me nuts! Ithink I am warming up to the idea of wrinkle black. I may give it a try and see what happens.

Turbo224
01-09-2008, 02:20 AM
Decided to go with the wrinkle black IC pipes. I guess they came out okay. For the lower pipe I am just using the stock ic hose with a short pipe to reach the IC. I plan to run a devils own kit with the nozzle in lower pipe so I will make a nicer lower pipe when I get the devils own kit. Since school just started I haven't had much time to work on it. I did finish the vacuum lines though. Can you spot the grainger? Really not much else to do before I try to start her up for the first time. One thing I am going to do is swap out the six port FWDP vacuum block with a four port TU block that I have laying around since I ended up with two extra ports that look strange. Any suggestions?

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/newicpipes1.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/newicpipes2.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/newicpipes3.jpg

2.216VTurbo
01-09-2008, 02:39 AM
Looks like you are only a few hours worth of work away from start up, what's left?? Nothing an all nighter can't handle:thumb: School schmool...

Turbo224
01-09-2008, 03:26 AM
Looks like you are only a few hours worth of work away from start up, what's left?? Nothing an all nighter can't handle:thumb: School schmool...

Haha, I am pretty sick of school....... So maybe. All I really have left is to figure out how to adapt my air box to the larger compressor wheel, I need to hook up my oil pressure gauge and my egt gauge, Then just put the plugs and wires on and shes ready to fire up.

minigts
01-09-2008, 09:58 AM
If you can get everything else in your engine bay that is black looking like the pipes it will look awesome. The paint job looks excellent, but polished would look better. It's hard to keep clean, but it's a nice contrast to an engine with the colors you have.

Engine looks incredible though!

Turbo224
01-09-2008, 01:36 PM
If you can get everything else in your engine bay that is black looking like the pipes it will look awesome. The paint job looks excellent, but polished would look better. It's hard to keep clean, but it's a nice contrast to an engine with the colors you have.

Engine looks incredible though!

Thanks for the compliments. I would have preferred to polish them, but I had to use a couple spots of jb weld to seal a few pin size holes so it didn't look right. I do have to say that when the black and red air box goes on the black pipes look right at home and the polished valley cover and oil cap look out of place.

rich tideswell
01-10-2008, 11:55 AM
change the silicone couplers to black as well

turbovanmanČ
01-10-2008, 02:08 PM
I like the red couplers, :thumb:

You need some RED Aurora wires to finalize it, :partywoot:

Is that a new/rebuilt a/c compressor? I am sure you brought it up but too lazy to scan 6 pages. :o

Ondonti
01-10-2008, 02:48 PM
Thanks for the compliments. I would have preferred to polish them, but I had to use a couple spots of jb weld to seal a few pin size holes so it didn't look right. I do have to say that when the black and red air box goes on the black pipes look right at home and the polished valley cover and oil cap look out of place. haha jb, thats how I roll :thumb:
How does the powder coating work over jb?

Turbo224
01-10-2008, 03:06 PM
change the silicone couplers to black as well

Really? I liked the red although I wish it wasn't so bright.


I like the red couplers, :thumb:

You need some RED Aurora wires to finalize it, :partywoot:

Is that a new/rebuilt a/c compressor? I am sure you brought it up but too lazy to scan 6 pages. :o

Not a rebuild, just painted it. haha. I will probably end up getting rid of the compressor all together. And a set of Aurora wires are on the list for both of my project cars, but after the holidays and paying tuition and books this semester, there isn't much room for car parts right now!


haha jb, thats how I roll :thumb:
How does the powder coating work over jb?

Its not powder coat, its just wrinkle spray paint.

rich tideswell
01-10-2008, 03:57 PM
Really? I liked the red although I wish it wasn't so bright.

To each their own. I prefer a more stock/ stealth look and those red couplers scream "Look at me, I'm modified".

Don't wory about them being bright form long, after you get them greasy and clean them with brake clean I'm sure some of the shine will get toned down

Turbo224
01-15-2008, 04:05 PM
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/suspension.jpg

Mopar "Sport" front struts with some gas-a-just rear shocks. Front tie rod ends and a set of Eibach springs. Should tighten up the susension pretty well.

turbovanmanČ
01-16-2008, 02:09 PM
http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/suspension.jpg

Mopar "Sport" front struts with some gas-a-just rear shocks. Front tie rod ends and a set of Eibach springs. Should tighten up the susension pretty well.


Are those from that site you posted up? if so, let us know how they work.

Turbo224
01-16-2008, 04:41 PM
Yeah, thats where I got them. I will try to give my opinion on how they work, although I am adding new spirngs at the same time and I haven't driven the car for a year. So I am not sure how accurate I will be able to be.

turbovanmanČ
01-16-2008, 05:20 PM
Yeah, thats where I got them. I will try to give my opinion on how they work, although I am adding new spirngs at the same time and I haven't driven the car for a year. So I am not sure how accurate I will be able to be.

True but if they work well with the Eibach's, that will be a good indicator.

Turbo224
01-21-2008, 05:49 PM
Well, the R/T is finally running!! I had all day saturday to work on it and she fired up on the first attempt. Oil pressure built to 65 psi immediatly which made me feel good. Since I am only running a down pipe right now it is SUPER loud so its hard to hear much. I could barely hear the lifter clattering a little bit which is what I expected, but everything else seems good. Since I didn't have the radiator in yet I only let it run for a little bit. I spent a lot of the day finishing up a few little pieces that I needed to get the radiator and air box installed.

I was trying to figure out a way to use the stock air box with the larger 50 trim turbo. I found that a a 3"-2.5" reducer elbow will fit down there and make it so you can adapt the stock 2.5" air box outlet to the 3" compressor inlet.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/intake_1.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/intake_2.jpg

As you can see, the heat shield on the bottom side of the air box was looking pretty ugly, so I made a new one out sheet metel.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/heat_shield_1.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/heat_shield_2.jpg

I realized that I didn't have anyway to mount my overflow bottle, so I made another upper radiator bracket and notched it so the overflow bottle would slide right in. Turned out pretty good actually. The IC pipes fit perfectly between the radiator and the overflow bottle.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/rad_1.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/rad_2.jpg

So I had all day today to work on it. I was planning on having the suspension put back together and actually getting it on all four wheels again, but I woke up this morning to find this.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/snow_rt.jpg

Anyways, this is how she sits right now. I still have a lot of cleaning up to do, but the important this is that it actually runs!

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/running_1.jpg

overlordsshadow
01-21-2008, 06:08 PM
Still amazing me day in and day out. Good work man. Gives me some hope and drive for my hunk.

turbovanmanČ
01-21-2008, 07:25 PM
Great job Tyler, :partywoot: :amen:

Turbo224
01-21-2008, 07:37 PM
Thanks guys. I am very pleased with how things are coming together. To be honest, I am really sick of fooling around with stuff on this project. Sometimes I feel like I have just spent too much time on little stuff that doesn't matter. If I can get it on the road now, I will feel some sort of success.

turbovanmanČ
01-21-2008, 08:14 PM
Thanks guys. I am very pleased with how things are coming together. To be honest, I am really sick of fooling around with stuff on this project. Sometimes I feel like I have just spent too much time on little stuff that doesn't matter. If I can get it on the road now, I will feel some sort of success.

Dude, I hear you. When I put mine together, I thought it would never end and guess what, it hasn't, still have more stuff to do, :( lol!

Turbo224
01-21-2008, 09:03 PM
Dude, I hear you. When I put mine together, I thought it would never end and guess what, it hasn't, still have more stuff to do, :( lol!

Thats depressing. :( I cant think of anything else I am going to have to fab up. Thats the stuff that seems to steal all of my time. I just hope I dont encounter any serious mechanical problems after rebuilding or replacing almost everything. I still have to get the rear lowering springs and shock on, tie rod ends, and figure out of my passenger side axle will need to be shortened because of the quaife. Oh, and my oil return line is leaking somehow. After all that, I can venture out onto the street straight over to the alignment shop, and then down the road to the exhaust shop. Then I will be trying to get it broken in before the end of March for Mopars at the strip. Some time before then i am going to have to do something about the clear coat on the roof. This projects never seems to get any closer.

Ondonti
01-21-2008, 10:48 PM
are those the "stiffest" mopar struts? Im guessing the same ones that Dave got.

I was thinking about getting those for the front and then doing the ebay coilover.

dds78910
01-22-2008, 12:02 PM
Looks like the R/T is coming along good! Looks good! :thumb:

Turbo224
01-22-2008, 05:15 PM
are those the "stiffest" mopar struts? Im guessing the same ones that Dave got.

I was thinking about getting those for the front and then doing the ebay coilover.


Yeah, they are the same ones Dave was using. I hope they work out.

Turbo224
01-22-2008, 05:17 PM
Hey, just curious what other peoples R/T oil pressure runs at. My Autometer gauge read 65 psi cold at idle, and then falls to about 38-40 psi hot at idle. Factory gauge reads just above half was when hot at idle. Does this sound normal?

86Shelby
01-22-2008, 05:46 PM
It's a little high for the hot idle. Sounds like a good and tight engine.

turbovanmanČ
01-22-2008, 05:55 PM
Ray, check out the FAQ section, I found info on cam gear advancing/retarding, :thumb:

Turbo224
01-22-2008, 05:58 PM
It's a little high for the hot idle. Sounds like a good and tight engine.


That makes me feel good. Any idea what is normal? I figure it will drop a little when it is warmer than 18* outside!

So far, my turbo coolant line is dripping coolant, and the valve on the bottom of the radiator is leaking coolant. I have tightened the damn valve on the radiator so tight that I am afraid I am going to break it. Anyone else have this problem? Plus I have a little bit of an oil leak from the oil return that I need to figure out.

Turbo224
01-22-2008, 06:00 PM
Oh, one more question. When has everyone done their first oil change? My dad suggested that I do it right now after I have let it run for about fifteen minutes. I was sort of thinking I would drive it for about 50 miles before I changed it. What is the norm?

LowSL2
01-22-2008, 06:24 PM
I change the oil a lot after a rebuild. I usually start off with regular oil. I always pack the oil pump gears with vaseline or assembly lube so I dont want it to plug up the oil filter. I usually start the engine and make sure it'll make good pressure for about a minute, shut it off and change the oil and filter. I have an oil filter cutter so I can examine the oil filter for debris. I then start it up again and let it run to operating temps. Shut it down and drain the oil and replace the filter again. I cut open the filter again, examine the insides and then top it off. Then drive for 1000 miles. Change oil and filter again. Drive another 2000 miles and put synthetic in. Then I go back to the usual 3mo/3000 mile oil change interval.

Yes I waste a lot of oil. But at least the insides of the engine are clean of debris from the assembly/burn-in process. I would suggest getting an oil filter cutter so you can examine the inside of the filter for debris.

Turbo224
01-22-2008, 06:27 PM
I change the oil a lot after a rebuild. I usually start off with regular oil. I always pack the oil pump gears with vaseline or assembly lube so I dont want it to plug up the oil filter. I usually start the engine and make sure it'll make good pressure for about a minute, shut it off and change the oil and filter. I have an oil filter cutter so I can examine the oil filter for debris. I then start it up again and let it run to operating temps. Shut it down and drain the oil and replace the filter again. I cut open the filter again, examine the insides and then top it off. Then drive for 1000 miles. Change oil and filter again. Drive another 2000 miles and put synthetic in. Then I go back to the usual 3mo/3000 mile oil change interval.

Yes I waste a lot of oil. But at least the insides of the engine are clean of debris from the assembly/burn-in process. I would suggest getting an oil filter cutter so you can examine the inside of the filter for debris.

Thanks for the advice. I do have a magnetic oil plug in the oil pan to pick up any random metel debris, so I hope that helps a little.

turbovanmanČ
01-22-2008, 07:11 PM
I put some cheap $6 oil in and a regular cheapy oil filter, get it warm, then go beat on it, break it in then change out the oil and filter while its smoking hot. Refill with a good oil and filter, drive 1000km's, then change once more and I put 5K on before switching to synthetic but the websites say 1000K is fine.

turbovanmanČ
01-22-2008, 07:12 PM
That makes me feel good. Any idea what is normal? I figure it will drop a little when it is warmer than 18* outside!

So far, my turbo coolant line is dripping coolant, and the valve on the bottom of the radiator is leaking coolant. I have tightened the damn valve on the radiator so tight that I am afraid I am going to break it. Anyone else have this problem? Plus I have a little bit of an oil leak from the oil return that I need to figure out.


Probably the O-ring in the rad has got old and shrunk.

Ondonti
01-23-2008, 05:37 AM
I would change the oil @ 20-40 miles and then @ 200-300 miles. Then you can possibly have a slightly longer interval. Small price of dino oil isnt worth risks.

Turbo224
01-25-2008, 07:26 PM
So the motor is finally all pieced together and running. And I think I have all the leaks taken care of. I got the fron suspension back together and finally have the car of jackstands. So as I set it on the ground, the front end is sitting like four inches higher with my new struts and lowering springs! WTF?
I have not chaged the rear springs yet, but something is definately not sitting right. Atleast the weather was nice all day though!

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/on_wheels.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/finished_motor_3.jpg

I am pretty pleased with how the motor looks. I think I am going to painted the polished portion on the valley cover black, and buy a black oil cap instead of the polished one I have on there. I think it would make everything look much better. And I still need to shim the air box a bit on the passenger side so the snorkel sits level.

CanadianDaytona
01-27-2008, 12:01 AM
Looks Damn good.

For ride hight I'd say either your Rears are really sagging of your front sway bar is upsidedown

2.216VTurbo
01-27-2008, 02:12 AM
IMO you can have too many polish and bling parts but no way to overdue it on the black/wrinkle black. Good plan, get rid of the shiny parts you won't regret it:D

Turbo224
01-27-2008, 02:59 AM
Looks Damn good.

For ride hight I'd say either your Rears are really sagging of your front sway bar is upsidedown

Sway bar never came off the car, so im sure its on correctly. I think I am just going to put the stock front springs back on there and deal with it.


IMO you can have too many polish and bling parts but no way to overdue it on the black/wrinkle black. Good plan, get rid of the shiny parts you won't regret it:D


I think you are right. When I had it on the stand, the polished stuff looked really good, but after I got it in the car and all the other stuff was bolted on, it looks out of place. Plus, if I get rid of the polished stuff, the red couplers are the only parts that would give away some of the mods this car will have. I really like the way your glhs masi motor looks in the car.

tryingbe
01-27-2008, 06:36 PM
So as I set it on the ground, the front end is sitting like four inches higher with my new struts and lowering springs! WTF?



There used to be two different models of Eibach springs, part #2804-140 vs part #2801.140.

Now, they only are selling one set for all cars except l-body and minivan. Your springs will need to be cut so you can get the drop you desire.

rich tideswell
02-01-2008, 01:29 PM
When I had it on the stand, the polished stuff looked really good, but after I got it in the car and all the other stuff was bolted on, it looks out of place. Plus, if I get rid of the polished stuff, the red couplers are the only parts that would give away some of the mods this car will have.

.......Ssssseeeee..... I told you wrinkle black was sex......... Now lets talk black couplers :thumb:

Turbo224
02-01-2008, 07:53 PM
.......Ssssseeeee..... I told you wrinkle black was sex......... Now lets talk black couplers :thumb:


Haha. I admit you were all right. Ill think about the couplers too.:D

Turbo224
02-16-2008, 02:27 PM
Well, I finally got my downpipe finished up. The car is now 100% legal. The car REALLY didn't like the exhaust getting put on there though. The computer is still trying to figure out how to get the car to idle. The shop that did it does great work!

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/downpipe_5.jpg

Turbo3Iroc
02-16-2008, 09:26 PM
Your car is coming together nice Tyler.

Nice parts selection :thumb:

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u113/turbo3iroc/daytona/DSC01730.jpg

Turbo224
03-01-2008, 05:43 AM
So I think I can officially say the R/T is up and running VERY well. I am driving it daily right now trying to get some miles on the motor. So far I have encountered three problems. 1st, aparently I forgot to tighten the cam gear bolts. Luckily the first ten times I drove the car I popped the hood when I was done to inspect everything. It took about ten miles for the cam bolts to work loose. Luckily they didn't fall out, but they were pretty close! 2nd, I have one very loud lifter that hasn't quited down. I am just going to bite the bullet and buy all new ones. 3rd, I had a mysterious oil leak that seemed to be coming from everywhere. I got under there and found the rear of the oil pan was leaking onto the axle which in turn flipped oil all over the place. So I pulled the pan and checked it out. It seems I put PLENTY of sealer bewteen the gasket and the pan, but very little between the pan and the gasket. So I bought a new gasket and now she is all better. Oh, and for some reason all my autometer gauges dont want to work. They all share the same power source (radio) but they have two different grounds. When I turn the car on, the gauges turn on and work great for about five minutes, then they all turn off. But the radio stay on just fine. So I am not sure whats going on there.

I am running 5-6 psi right now and she seems to pull pretty well so far. More importantly she is holding the boost solid. I think the stage 3 wheel on there is a bit more laggy than I wanted, but it should be great at the track. And the four puck clutch is a bit rough for daily driving duty, so I am still getting used to that. This sounds kind of lame, but its like meeting up with an old friend. I realize now why I missed driving this thing!

My plans now are to get the T2/555 into the Omni so I can use it for a daily driver this summer, and the R/T will be my weekend/track duty car. I think the omni will be an AWESOME daily driver with the little T2 turbo on there. I have a stock rad/ic going in there, a ported exhaust manifold, egt gauge, +20's, afpr, and a 3" swing valve and down pipe on the way. With a stage 5 comp, I think this will be a BLAST to drive everyday. Talk about instant boost! Anyways, guess I have been in heaven lately and wanted to share.

54inches
09-27-2010, 10:46 PM
Great build! How is she holding up?

Turbo224
09-28-2010, 12:08 AM
Well, she's great considering I haven't driven her in pretty much a year. I just graduated college, got married, moved, and started a new job in the last six months so my free time has been pretty sparse...

54inches
09-28-2010, 09:33 AM
.....sounds like it. What are you driving?

Turbo224
09-28-2010, 10:29 AM
Right now my dd is a 2004 Mini Cooper-S. I have been looking to get rid of it though and get back into a shelby dodge for my daily duties. Just need to find the right car...

54inches
09-28-2010, 11:08 AM
Why not the Daytona?

Turbo224
09-28-2010, 04:20 PM
Not really sure, I just lost interest in the car right now. I would rather put miles on an 8V that I can afford to fix and find parts for anyhow. I guess its hard to explain, but it's on the back burner for now. It needs a little attention that I hope to get around to some day. I have a 70 Cuda project that needs a motor that will probably be the next thing I work on.

Mopar318
09-28-2010, 05:19 PM
The MC-s is a pretty fun little car!

Turbo224
09-28-2010, 06:22 PM
The MC-s is a pretty fun little car!

Yeah, as much of a girl car as it may be, I love it. Its about as close to a modern version of a GLH as you can get.

Turbo224
12-30-2010, 03:43 PM
I never did post any final pictures of this thing after I got it back on the road. I ended up replacing the polished oil cap with the black one and painted the polished section of the valley cover black. Minor details I know, but overall I think it makes a world of difference. I took these pictures in 2009 after a car show I had it in and thats pretty much the last time I have driven it on a regular basis. This spring I have decided that it's coming out of retirement again, so I should be adding a few more parts to the build shortly.

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/detailed_2.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/detailed_1.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/detailed_motor_2.jpg

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/detailed_motor_3.jpg



This is one of my favorite pictures. This was the first official drive after the build (open downpipe :eyebrows:) where I was able to get it to one of our Utah TM meets. It is pictured with Cory's (banshenut420) pilot IROC R/T. Kinda strange that two of the pilot cars ended up in Utah of all places...

http://www.turbododge.com/dodge_pictures/files/9/3/3/3/pilot_cars__2.jpg

omni_840
12-30-2010, 04:02 PM
Very nice!

2.216VTurbo
12-31-2010, 01:02 AM
Replace the rubber caps that plug off the solenoids you're not using. Sticks in my mind that they were kinda cracked and old. Funny, I can't remember what I had for breakfast but I remember the caps from MATS 2 years ago:lol:

Turbo224
12-31-2010, 01:31 AM
Dang Alan, that's quite the memory. :clap: Believe it or not those were replaced caps, but they were rubber and lasted like a month. I need to find some silcone ones.

Turbo224
01-06-2011, 07:50 PM
I bought myself a Christmas present for the R/T. I am replacing the RFL with the an HKS bov because I have never really like the way the RFL mounts. Plus, the HSK bov just looks better. :eyebrows:

I also picked up a 45 degree pipe and coupler so I can finally finish off my lower intercooler pipe. They will both be getting the wrinkle black treatment before they are installed.

turbovanmanČ
01-06-2011, 08:00 PM
Nice pics, the engine bay is so clean, :partywoot:

Turbo224
01-06-2011, 08:06 PM
Nice pics, the engine bay is so clean, :partywoot:

Correction. It was so clean. It needs some work right now. But thanks. :thumb:

rx2mazda
01-07-2011, 12:16 AM
Nice pics, the engine bay is so clean, :partywoot:

+1 nice project!

Turbo224
01-09-2011, 06:00 PM
Just picked these up last week for the R/T. I have never liked the leather seats I found for the car, so these should definitely be an upgrade.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28051&d=1294610305

Turbo224
10-25-2011, 07:07 PM
So after 3 years I have finally put the R/T back on the road for daily driving duties, at least until the snow flies. I have to admit that I forgot how much I loved driving this car. Once it starts to snow Im going to pull the R/T into the shop and start working on a few more issues that I need to sort out.

Issue 1. The car seems to have excessive turbo lag. Im running 15psi, but the car doesn't get to full boost until 4300 rpms. That seems far too laggy for a 50 trim, especially considering I have stage 1 cams. It does have a stage 3 exhaust wheel, so that probably isn't helping. I sort of suspect that my timing needs to be dialed in since the head has been milled twice now, so adjustable cam gears are the first thing on my list.

Issue 2. My exhaust manifold cracked around the egt bung, so i'm going to have to replace that. The crack is pretty small right now, so i'm not too concerned yet. If adjusting my timing doesn't help my lag issue, I will probably change the turbo setup to a stage 2 exhaust wheel that I wanted when I ordered the turbo. I was actually sent the wrong turbo when I ordered it, but I was too impatient to wait for a replacement, so I just used it. So replacing the manifold will happen after I have played with the timing. If the timing and the different turbo don't solve the lag issue, then i'm going to junk the stage 1 cams as I have heard of other people who have had troubles with them.

Issue 3. I never did finish up my lower intercooler pipe the way I wanted it, so I need to get the correct couplers to get this taken care of.

After these three issues get sorted out, i'll be adding the +40s, walbor, afpr, 3 bar map, stage 3 FWD cal and a wide band.

minigts
10-25-2011, 07:13 PM
Did you get those SRT-4 seats installed? Your car looks amazing (as it always has). :thumb:

turbovanmanČ
10-25-2011, 07:25 PM
Who's stage 1 cams?

Stage III turbine will spool around 41-4300 rpm, so your right on the money and 15 psi, its still kinda sleeping. Maybe try advancing the cams when you put the sprockets on.

86Shelby
10-25-2011, 07:47 PM
Stock head, cams & intake but ported exhaust manifold I get full spool (22 psi) before 4,000 RPM. 50 trim, .63 A/R, STG3 wheel.

Turbo224
10-26-2011, 11:55 AM
Did you get those SRT-4 seats installed? Your car looks amazing (as it always has). :thumb:

No, I haven't got the seats in yet. The SRT seat brackets will take considerable modification to make the seats work in the car correctly. I cant weld, so I have put the project on hold for now. I might try to work on the seats more this winter when I don't have anything else to do.


Who's stage 1 cams?

Stage III turbine will spool around 41-4300 rpm, so your right on the money and 15 psi, its still kinda sleeping. Maybe try advancing the cams when you put the sprockets on.

They are from Lone wolf. Once I get the gears I will definitely try playing with the timing and see what happens.


Stock head, cams & intake but ported exhaust manifold I get full spool (22 psi) before 4,000 RPM. 50 trim, .63 A/R, STG3 wheel.

That's what I would like out of my car. If I can get full boost before 4000 rpms I would be okay with it.

Turbo224
04-06-2012, 03:44 PM
No real progress on the R/T, but I just picked up a load of goodies for it though.

Ported and coated exhaust manifold (to replace my cracked manifold)
3" downpipe build for an external wastegate. (still need to buy a wastegate)
Zeitronix wideband with datalogger
TU polished fuel rail
+40 injectors
FWD Stage 3 R/T Calibration
GM 3 bar map
HDI 2 stage boost controller

Big thanks to Cory for giving me the awesome deal! Wish I had time to work on the car right now, but at least I have almost all the stuff I every really wanted for my car. Im still considering going with a smaller exhaust wheel in my 50 trim, but I haven't made up my mind. I also have fears that my cams were ground down too much and I need to add some valve lash caps, so I need to look into that. Just need to buy a walbro, afpr, and an alky kit and im ready to go!

2.216VTurbo
04-06-2012, 06:41 PM
Now how are you gonna have all that ready by next weekend for MATS:p?

Ondonti
04-07-2012, 11:52 PM
taking the mini!

Turbo224
04-09-2012, 01:06 PM
Now how are you gonna have all that ready by next weekend for MATS:p?

Sadly, I wont be making it to MATS this year. Maybe I will be there next year with the R/T...


taking the mini!

Sold the Mini last year. :(

Turbo224
04-09-2012, 02:07 PM
Just picked up some adjustable cam gears as well. :)

Lotashelbys
04-10-2012, 11:41 AM
I also have fears that my cams were ground down too much and I need to add some valve lash caps, so I need to look into that.
Tyler
If they are LWP stage 1s you wont need to worry about lash caps. I have a few sets of these and they run just fine without and idle great with pretty good vacuum. Are the cams out of the head? If so measure the base circle and report back.

Turbo224
04-10-2012, 02:37 PM
Tyler
If they are LWP stage 1s you wont need to worry about lash caps. I have a few sets of these and they run just fine without and idle great with pretty good vacuum. Are the cams out of the head? If so measure the base circle and report back.

Yeah, they are lonewolf. My concern is that they have been reground twice now, so I worry that I need some caps in there to take up the extra space. I have always suspected that my valve clatter is a little louder than it should be due to the cams. I dont recall what the vacuum was off the top of my head, I will have to check the next time I swing by the shop. I seem to remeber that is was okay, but not great. Once I get around to installing all this stuff in the car, I might pull the cams and measure the base circles to confirm, although I would have to pull them out the drivers side of the head.

DoubleD
06-27-2012, 04:17 PM
Interested if you car has ever been on the rollers or to the track, your build is almost identical to mine, minus the cams. But if they sat next to each other, they would be twins, just mine is black with shoguns. I have the 255, +40's, FWD stage 5, (Jackson tune) 3 Bar MAP, Innovate MTX-l, ect.. I like the 50 trim, mine has a stage 0 wheel and comes in at 3700.I run my 50 trim at 25 psi and it as an animal, so you have plenty of potential left in the turbo once the fuel is there. I just took out my ceramic 4 puck and switched to the TU purple plate and 6 puck ceramic. I am very curious at what an estimate of what mine makes...

Turbo224
07-01-2012, 05:18 PM
The car has never been on the dyno, only only limped down the track once or twice while having some serious issues. I hope to have some time later this fall to play with it some more though. Your build does sound a lot like mine, how is it running?

DoubleD
07-02-2012, 10:47 AM
My clutch is shot, waiting on my new TU purple plate/ 6 puck combo. I was driving it around a little yesterday the check engine light came on, haven't pulled codes yet but I pulled it out of storage on Friday. I am hoping to get an updated tune from Cindy (Updated Jackson Tune) when she gets back and I hope that helps, but it was running pretty poor yesterday, I cant make any boost w/o the clutch slipping. It's a T3, always a work in progress...

Turbo224
07-03-2012, 03:10 PM
It's a T3, always a work in progress...

Ha ha, so true

1st_Turbo_Car
08-04-2012, 05:52 PM
I just read this entire thread, very amazing build. I am curious what kind of numbers you guys are making. You're car looks amazing.

Turbo224
08-10-2012, 01:41 PM
Thanks for the compliments. Sadly I have been out of state all summer for work, so I haven't been able to work on the car this year. Hopefully this fall it will get some attention.