BadAss 2.4L Neon or BadAss 2.4L Z ???

[BadAssPerformance]

You may have seen my BadAss Neon thread... I have not started the conversion yet, but I am not exactly sold on the idea of building a Neon... maybe cuz I avoid tight packages like L-bodies? Maybe because you could not buy a Neon in 1987? Not sure...

So here is the poll...

I'll let you Turbo-Mopar.com enthusists tell me where they think the JE pistoned, Aluminum rodded 2.4L should go...

http://www.badassperformance.com/mrides/neon/hemi.jpg

In the Neon? Light weight... easy swap...

http://www.badassperformance.com/mrides/neon/neonx.jpg

Or in the Z? 10pt cage... FAST system already in it...

http://www.badassperformance.com/mrides/z/history/sdac16_Z_06.jpg

[turbovanman]

The Neon isn't an easy swap either.

Whats the intended use of the Neon?

[contraption22]

Definitely the Daytona. The FAST system and the cage are the clincher.
And I don't think the Neon swap will be any easier.

[MiniMopar]

Ummm duh. ZZZZZZZZeeeeeeeeeeee!

Neons are for girls! :D

[mcsvt]

Voted for the Z! :thumb:

[Pat]

I know you're an 8v guy for that particular car, but I've got to go with the Z!

[Skibbe]

Neon. You couldn't buy that motor in 1987 either. :nod:

[BadAssPerformance]

I know you're an 8v guy for that particular car, but I've got to go with the Z!

Yes, I love the old school 8V, and that is my test car...

[Speedeuphoria]

its a toss up, if you want to go fast I would go w/ the neon. But then your going to need a cage and MS or similar prop more of a track car.

I think its pretty close to even on the swap part nepending on what trans you would use in the Z.

If you want more of a one of a kind car go w/ the Z. If its not going to be an all out drag car that you are going for a specific class then it just depends on what looks better(the Z) and how they ride/feel.

Whats your Z weigh??

[TurboGLH]

Neon. The z is already setup for an 8v, both mechanically, electrically and tune wise. A cage for the neon is less than $400 for a 8 point bolt in, and MSnS is a cheap ems to replace the neon computer, or if it's an early enough neon it will have the same 60way connector used on a SBEC and you could just repin and run a sbec instead.

This leaves you with two fast cars for a reasonably investment, and I think you'll find the neon to be a lot more fun to drive than the z.

[boostedblue]

The Z not a l-body but a Neon ?????? :thumb:

[WickedShelby88]

I say the Z. why spend more money making another car ready for speed when you've already got a car that looks sweeet. I love shelby Z's and I always thought neons looked gay from day 1. The SRT4 and the R/T's of 98-99 are the only ones I ever liked. Just my opinion, but its seems like the tonas don't get enough credit and dropping a 2.4 in it will definitely make it one helluva an L body killer.

[OnLooker]

Put the 2.4 in the Z and the shadow can be the 8v test car. Hell the shadow is already an 8v test car, its testing how long lw rods will last.

[karlak]

Give me the motor in the Z so you have a place for the new one.

[Aries_Turbo]

i say neon. set it up not only for drag but also for handling as well. a neon with konis, MP X-high springs and large antisways is an amazing handling car.

people give the neon all kinds of crap but its a much better chassis than any of our td's. much stiffer stock and still crazy light. i cant wait to get my wife something newer and confiscate her neon.

Brian

[mcsvt]

How about if I alter my vote...

Since you have a thing for the Shadows... Why not put it in one of them? Keep the Daytona 8v.

[Tweeks_SRT-4]

Even though I got a Neon I voted for the Z. :thumb:

[GLHS592]

Why do you even have to ask?

[shelby zed]

in my car! haha, i think the neon. the zed is allready set up. why wreck a good thing?

[Turbodave]

Neon = PL body, part P body, part L-body. If a Charger and a Shadow were welded together it would look more like a Daytona than a Neon if you rubbed your eyes really hard and squinted. Thus P+L = G. So based on this logic, I say go with the Daytona, do the math it works out every time.

[supercrackerbox]

Ummm duh. ZZZZZZZZeeeeeeeeeeee!

Neons are for girls! :D


What he said!

[Skibbe]

Neon = PL body, part P body, part L-body. If a Charger and a Shadow were welded together it would look more like a Daytona than a Neon if you rubbed your eyes really hard and squinted. Thus P+L = G. So based on this logic, I say go with the Daytona, do the math it works out every time.

I think you just proved PL=G, so either choice would be the same? :lol:

[cordes]

I am going to have to say neon just because it is so much lighter. I am an omni guy though, so perhaps that is why I always go for light weight.

[BadAssPerformance]

...nepending on what trans you would use in the Z.

If you want more of a one of a kind car go w/ the Z. If its not going to be an all out drag car that you are going for a specific class then it just depends on what looks better(the Z) and how they ride/feel.

Whats your Z weigh??

It is going to be a 5-speed no matter what it goes in... probably A568/523 long gear hybrid.

It is going to be a street car set up for street driveability and drag racing.

The Z weighs ~ 2535lbs with the 10 pt cage and with the current 2.2L setup (before lightening) w/o me (200lbs more) in it last summer at Topeka.

[BadAssPerformance]

Put the 2.4 in the Z and the shadow can be the 8v test car. Hell the shadow is already an 8v test car, its testing how long lw rods will last.

LOL, I cross my fingers every pass in the Shadow!

[ShadowFromHell]

Id put it in the Z... Swap the Z motor into the shadow... and then the 8v shadow motor into the neon...

[BadAssPerformance]

Give me the motor in the Z so you have a place for the new one.

Well, the Z kinda needs a new motor right now...

http://www.badassperformance.com/mrides/z/carnage/06_kaboom/thru_the_back.jpg

[shelby zed]

speed holes!

[BadAssPerformance]

Wow... it's looking like the Z is leading the votes.

[Speedeuphoria]

I bet if you put the poll on neons.org the results will be just the opposite:D

[BadAssPerformance]

Not exactly...

http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?t=291005

[Birddog]

Well, the Z kinda needs a new motor right now...

http://www.badassperformance.com/mrides/z/carnage/06_kaboom/thru_the_back.jpg

Maybe he had a premonition;)

I say leave the 2.4 where it lies:eyebrows:
Personally.... My mom's first brand new car ever was a 95 Neon Expresso.(god how I hate that name!)

[WickedShelby88]

Dang, your Z is ultra light for what it is. That car weighs less than my SVO did and those things are considered really light. 2800 lbs give or take w/o driver. I will have to go to the scales when I get my charger going.. Neons DON'T take crashes well compaired to a daytona.. Its the last thing you want to have happen but its true..

[Pat]

The Z weighs ~ 2535lbs with the 10 pt cage and with the current 2.2L setup (before lightening) w/o me (200lbs more) in it last summer at Topeka.

Was that after the block was lightened? :D

[BadAssPerformance]

Dang, your Z is ultra light for what it is. That car weighs less than my SVO did and those things are considered really light. 2800 lbs give or take w/o driver. I will have to go to the scales when I get my charger going.. Neons DON'T take crashes well compaired to a daytona.. Its the last thing you want to have happen but its true..

I would not say it is "ultra light"... it started life at ~3000 lbs. Now with no heater or A/C, gutted dash board, fuel cell instead of tank, manual steering rack... etc.

[BadAssPerformance]

Was that after the block was lightened? :D

LOL, before, it is lighter now! :thumb:

[BadAssPerformance]

The poll is closed... :thumb:

[Birddog]

So did the Z win???

[shmedley]

I believe so... Look at his avatar pic...

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/image.php?u=21&dateline=1182984404


:evil: :D

[BadAssPerformance]

:thumb:

[Rampage16V]

The Z for sure!! I have a PT Turbo getrag 5 spd for your 2.4 if you need it. quaiffe found in the gm version.