Look what turbo I just bought!

[turbovanman²]

This should do the trick just nicely, :partywoot:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270113736550&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.search.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3Ff rom%3DR40%26satitle%3D270113736550%26fvi%3D1

[Scottmon]

Nice hairdryer Simon. Guy has low feedback though, I hope the turbo works OK.

[Austrian Dodge]

you need to modify your exhaust manifold flange to T25 style but this turbo should work very well in your application!!

[Clay]

bad link for me.

[Murphy]

works for me

[Murphy]

USED Garrett Gt25/40r turbo

Turbine 500hp stage3 garrett turbo
-Wheel: 53mm w/ 62 trim
-Housing: .68 ar

Compressor
-Wheel: 76mm w/ 48 trim
-Housing: .60 ar

[ShelbyMotorsports]

Shouldn't a Garrett turbo have the Garrett name cast into the housing?

[Clay]

well the item number worked when I searched for that..... but the direct link didnt work. Probably a firefox issue.

[turbovanman²]

you need to modify your exhaust manifold flange to T25 style but this turbo should work very well in your application!!


I am going to see if my present turbine housing fits.



Shouldn't a Garrett turbo have the Garrett name cast into the housing?

Hmmm, true I guess. I'll see if I can get more pics.

[mark]

the compressor wheel looks a little odd. but i am surfing web thru terminal services.

[shadow88]

The leading edge of the compressor blades look damaged. Beware.

[turbovanman²]

the compressor wheel looks a little odd. but i am surfing web thru terminal services.

Thanks.


The leading edge of the compressor blades look damaged. Beware.

How do you guys see this stuff?

[mw6886]

Yes, in that first picture the blades look VERY damaged to me.

[86Shelby]

Oh yeah, those compressor blades look fuxored.

[turbovanman²]

Ok, well I asked him for more pics. Looking closely, you guys are right. I guess my monitors suck. Once again, TM comes to the rescue. Maybe I can get it for alot cheaper if the comp wheel is buggered? :nod:

[Frank]

Not to mention I told you to be hesitant on that turbo because they guy couldnt even describe what it really was. There is no such thing as a GT25/40R.... this turbo according to the part number is a GT2876R. It is smaller then a GT3071R! Garrett says at the very most it will make 450crank hp.


Frank

[turbovanman²]

Not to mention I told you to be hesitant on that turbo because they guy couldnt even describe what it really was. There is no such thing as a GT25/40R.... this turbo according to the part number is a GT2876R. It is smaller then a GT3071R! Garrett says at the very most it will make 450crank hp.


Frank

Yes, I know. I need a turbo so for the price, it will do me fine IF the compressor wheel isn't damaged. If it is, all bets are off.

If its too small, oh well. It will get me by for this year or next. At this point, I don't care anymore, I just want a running van. Summer is ticking away. :(

[tryingbe]

I wouldn't buy that turbo at all.

Looks like one of the no brand turbo...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4-hybrid-turbo-SVO-Turbocoupe-Turbo-Ford-5-BOLT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ002QQite mZ120113823792QQrdZ1


I made it a policy that if the seller can't provide me a GOOD high quality (640x480 or higher) picture, I won't buy.

[turbovanman²]

I wouldn't buy that turbo at all.

Looks like one of the no brand turbo...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4-hybrid-turbo-SVO-Turbocoupe-Turbo-Ford-5-BOLT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ002QQite mZ120113823792QQrdZ1


I made it a policy that if the seller can't provide me a GOOD high quality (640x480 or higher) picture, I won't buy.


I have seen those turbo's but the comp housing looks totally different. I will wait to hear from him, if he won't send me better pics of the comp wheel, I will cancel the deal.

[iTurbo]

GT2876R = GT2540R

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=tp&Product_Code=GRT-TBO-003&Category_Code=BCS

It looks to me as if the turbo in the auction already has the T3 turbine housing option.

[turbovanman²]

GT2876R = GT2540R

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=tp&Product_Code=GRT-TBO-003&Category_Code=BCS

It looks to me as if the turbo in the auction already has the T3 turbine housing option.


Thanks for the link, that means my external wastegate exhaust housing will fit, :nod:

[Clay]

I have seen those turbo's but the comp housing looks totally different. I will wait to hear from him, if he won't send me better pics of the comp wheel, I will cancel the deal.

Shouldn't you ask that question BEFORE the auction is over??????????

[Scottmon]

Don't be surprised if you back out the seller makes a stink with eBay.

[turbovanman²]

Shouldn't you ask that question BEFORE the auction is over??????????

I don't really care what the comp housing is as long as its a real DBB but I didn't see the comp damage so thats a reason to get out.


Don't be surprised if you back out the seller makes a stink with eBay.

If the comp wheel is damaged, he can't do squat. His ad states turbo in perfect shape, let him stink away, :thumb:

[Tony Hanna]

Yeah, if he advertised it as a working turbo and the compressor wheel is damaged, then "the item is not as described" (or however the official ebayspeak goes), and Simon is well within his rights to back out.

[Frank]

You could always contact Ebay now and make your life less stressful.

[mw6886]

That sucks Simon - looks like it might have been a good catch, but that also might be why it went for cheap.....

[turbovanman²]

Yeah, I better contact Ebay and get the ball rolling. Thanks again guys, you have potentially saved me a headache, :D

[mark]

so, you'll knock a few bucks off that r/t $250 ais right?

lol

[LowSL2]

Please tell me you haven't sent money yet. That turbo is one of the infamous ebay "junk" turbos. It's either an xspower/ssautochrome "turbo charger" turbo. Or an XS Power/Turbo ZY "turbocharger" turbo.

If you look closely at the pictures you can see a raised area on the compressor housing where a tag should be. You can see that the seller removed the tag to try and hide the fact that it's a cheap chinese knock off.

Here are a couple of links to some writeups that I did on the 'quality turbos' these companies make.

Click this one first
http://www.differentracing.com/multimedia/photos/turbo_development/turbo_death/index.html

Then read this one
http://www.differentracing.com/multimedia/photos/turbo_development/turbo_drama/

[turbovanman²]

Please tell me you haven't sent money yet. That turbo is one of the infamous ebay "junk" turbos. It's either an xspower/ssautochrome "turbo charger" turbo. Or an XS Power/Turbo ZY "turbocharger" turbo.

If you look closely at the pictures you can see a raised area on the compressor housing where a tag should be. You can see that the seller removed the tag to try and hide the fact that it's a cheap chinese knock off.

Here are a couple of links to some writeups that I did on the 'quality turbos' these companies make.

Click this one first
http://www.differentracing.com/multimedia/photos/turbo_development/turbo_death/index.html

Then read this one
http://www.differentracing.com/multimedia/photos/turbo_development/turbo_drama/

I saw that but the housing is clean, no XS power. Also, XS power don't make DBB turbo's.

Thanks for the heads up though. I am still waiting for new compressor pics.

[Austrian Dodge]

wow, taking a closer look at the pics, the blades really seem to be bent!
hope you can back out of the deal simon! too bad, the gt25/40r is a really nice turbo, quick spool-up while having a big compressor wheel.

we test fitted it on my friends ford cosworth, but he decided to go GT35R, so he sold it couple of months ago!

if you're going the DBB route you may check with Reinaldo, he's currently selling is GT30R (a known good turbo) ;)

[turbovanman²]

wow, taking a closer look at the pics, the blades really seem to be bent!
hope you can back out of the deal simon! too bad, the gt25/40r is a really nice turbo, quick spool-up while having a big compressor wheel.

we test fitted it on my friends ford cosworth, but he decided to go GT35R, so he sold it couple of months ago!

if you're going the DBB route you may check with Reinaldo, he's currently selling is GT30R (a known good turbo) ;)


I would love to buy Reinaldo's but I don't have $1200. This price was about the max I could afford right now.

My turbo will cost me about me $250-$300 to repair so I figured that would be an easy way out.

He is sending me pics and he called it a Garret/Precision turbo? either way, if it a real DBB and the comp wheel is fine, It will be a nice turbo.

[Ondonti]

Simon, I know you really want that turbo for some reason but.

Im quite sure thats an xs-power ssac turbo. I own one ;) I know what they look like.

The guy claims that cover is polished...ITS NOT.

xs-power turbos dont have to say that on them.

Also I willl bet its not even a fake garret. Its not DBB.
Its probably a KKK centersection with xspower garret style compressor cover and garret style turbine housing.

[turbovanman²]

Simon, I know you really want that turbo for some reason but.

Im quite sure thats an xs-power ssac turbo. I own one ;) I know what they look like.

The guy claims that cover is polished...ITS NOT.

xs-power turbos dont have to say that on them.

Also I willl bet its not even a fake garret. Its not DBB.
Its probably a KKK centersection with xspower garret style compressor cover and garret style turbine housing.


I want it because I got it cheap and its supposed to be DBB, lol!

He's emailing me pics and stuff so we'll see what happens.

[Directconnection]

cross reference the # he gives for the turbo. Ask to see the part # on the turbo as well. If it's not a true garrett, thenyou have your evidence.

Shouldn't have bought it... sorry to say it. Big chance taken.

[tryingbe]

Good thing you made a post Simon, or else you'll be out $300 + shipping for a paper weight.

[Austrian Dodge]

the partnumbers are correct...and a gt25/40 is also known as a gt28r...so from that point of view it's ok. the other point is the condition of the turbo, but we'll know better after simon posted the pics ;)

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/catelog/Turbochargers/GT28/GT2876R_705330_2.htm

[Directconnection]

Yeah...china turbo that he is claiming to be something else posting #s from. We'll see... good luck Simon.

[Ondonti]

ask him to send pictures of the BACK of the compressor backplate. If cant see the bolt heads holding the backplate on then say hello to your new KKK turbo with fake garret covers. HAVE FUN fixing that.

[turbovanman²]

Well thanks again, I have asked for lots of pics, I WILL NOT send him any money unless I can verify no damage and its what he says. He can make a claim if he wants, I'll win as I also know head of the Ebay security here in town, :thumb:

[tryingbe]

Simon, you don't get it.

It doesn't matter if the turbo has damage or not. It is NOT a Garrett BBD turbo.

[turbovanman²]

Simon, you don't get it.

It doesn't matter if the turbo has damage or not. It is NOT a Garrett BBD turbo.

He just sent me some pics, looks legit but one is kinda small so I asked him for a larger one. I'll post them when I get home.

[tryingbe]

Post the pics.

[shadow88]

You know, with the money we've potentially saved you, you may want to consider a higher resolution monitor. ;)

[turbovanman²]

Ok, 2 pics but I asked for more. The compressor pic is an old one, I told him I want a recent one, this one is with the turbo on the car-

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a228/turbovanman/dbbcompressorwheelpic.jpg

This one is really small-



http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a228/turbovanman/DBBturbinehousing.jpg

[tryingbe]

Simon, quit wasting your time.

The turbo is trash and the guy is obviously trying to scam you.

[turbovanman²]

Yeah, I know, I asked for more pics and nothing.

I am going to get ahold of Ebay and have it canceled. I sent them an email, man there topic selection sucks big time. I hope they don't try to take the money out of my paypal account.

[DOG-DID-IT]

Yeah, I know, I asked for more pics and nothing.

I am going to get ahold of Ebay and have it canceled. I sent them an email, man there topic selection sucks big time. I hope they don't try to take the money out of my paypal account.

Hello Simon,

If the seller decides to send you new pictures, ask him to use a camera that stamps the date on the pictures. That way you will know that they are current pictures of the turbo etc. :eyebrows:

Good Luck!

[Frank]

Naw. That can be forged... you need a piece of paper stating today's date to be included in the picture.

[Anonymous_User]

I think you only have two choices here:

Tell him to forget it and move on

or

Tell him to ship it and cross your fingers. He's not going to send you pics of his tore up turbo when he is waiting for your money.

[turbovanman²]

Well, still no answer so I am gonna tell him to cancel it. Already have Ebay looking in to it. Too bad, :(

[Tony Hanna]

Well, better safe than sorry man.
It'll be a whole lot easier to keep your money and find something better than it would be to try to get your money back if that turbo turns out to be a pile of dung.

[turbovanman²]

Well, better safe than sorry man.
It'll be a whole lot easier to keep your money and find something better than it would be to try to get your money back if that turbo turns out to be a pile of dung.

I agree. Again, I am hoping Ebay still doesn't take my money out of my account.

[Turbodave]

I agree. Again, I am hoping Ebay still doesn't take my money out of my account.

I don't think they can do that.

[turbovanman²]

I don't think they can do that.

I am thinking if he files with Paypal or something, they might take it out as I bid and won. Not sure how that works.

So far, nothing from Ebay or him, grrrrrrrrr. :mad:

[Austrian Dodge]

even still the turbo is not as "perfect" as advertised!

[turbovanman²]

Finally got an email, he now wants his money. I told him where are the other pics? still waiting, :banghead:

[BadAssPerformance]

Yep, no pics, no money... not that he couldnt send you pics of a different turbo tho.

If he mentioned in the auction that it was damaged it would be totally different, but since he is obviously trying to pull a fast one, I would tell ebay that you just want to cancel the auction for false advertisement or something and no way give this dude a dime. If the wheel is that chewed up the whole bearing section is probably fubar too.

[turbovanman²]

JT, he did just that, used different pics. I have my Ebay friend getting involved, this is going to get nasty for Mr Ebayer, :thumb:

Ok, so heres the Ebay comp cover-



http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a228/turbovanman/dbbcomphousing-fake.jpg

And the pic he sent me today, still hiding the comp wheel but if you notice, totally different comp cover-

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a228/turbovanman/DBBcompressorwheel-bettershot.jpg

Turbine shot from Ebay-

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a228/turbovanman/dbbturbinehousing3.jpg

And the pic he sent me and gasp, no wastegate hole-

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a228/turbovanman/DBBturbinehousing2.jpg

He is going down, ;) I believe he does have a real DBB but if I had paid, I wouldn't be getting it.

[GLHNSLHT2]

you're gonna put a GT25 on a 2.5 T3??? are you on crack?

[turbovanman²]

you're gonna put a GT25 on a 2.5 T3??? are you on crack?

No, it was supposed to be a GT25/40. Almost the same as what I have now.

[Austrian Dodge]

looks like thats the turbo he advertised, but his ebay pics are not of the described turbo LOL

what a tool

[BadAssPerformance]

Wow, two totally different turbos that even my grandma could tell the difference between!

[moparzrule]

WTF is wrong with people, I'm with JT my grandma could spot those differences.

[contraption22]

Turbine wheel looks like it's damaged too.

[mark]

whats that saying...

if it talks like a duck, and walks like a duck... it is a duck ?

[turbovanman²]

What a tool, ultra maroon. Oh wait, thats me, :lol:

Yeah, the photo's he sent me are a real Precision turbo, too bad thats not what I would get if I sent him the money. Its over for my turbo guy, :nod:

[moparzrule]

Don't worry about it Simon. You got caught up in the moment because that would have been a freakin sweet deal if the turbo was real. We all have moments like that.

[turbovanman²]

I am just glad I posted it up otherwise I would have a $300 US paperweight coming to me. :(

[Ondonti]

you would have recieved a fake german KKK turbo with fake Garret covers machined to match the KKK center section..............

[turbovanman²]

I was surfing last night and found a DBB turbo, and guess what, the pics he sent me are from that auction, :banghead:

[BadAssPerformance]

LOL, damn.. that would be great evidence in your ebay case ;)

[Vigo]

I hope they don't try to take the money out of my paypal account.

think they cant do that? from what i hear, they CAN do that. and if you take your money out and put it somewhere else, they can basically subpoena the money back into your paypal account, use it, and then lock down your account for 6 months, including everything in it.

http://www.paypalsucks.com/

[turbovanman²]

LOL, damn.. that would be great evidence in your ebay case ;)

Its a closed case, he's f*cked. I got a message from him for me to stop playing games. I told him that I have reported him and that he can't even match his photos, and this was before I found the other ad, :eyebrows:


think they cant do that? from what i hear, they CAN do that. and if you take your money out and put it somewhere else, they can basically subpoena the money back into your paypal account, use it, and then lock down your account for 6 months, including everything in it.

http://www.paypalsucks.com/


Yes, I know, thats why I said I hope they don't take it out, but now with the photos, evidence I have, theres no way that will happen.

[mech1nxh]

Turbine wheel looks like it's damaged too.

it most definitely does, light refraction does not lie...I am thinking
alot of end play ..... housing contact...can you say Wenzel??