FMIC suggestions

[CletusJones]

I'm getting parts together for a TIII swap into my 87 Daytona and I think I'd like to run some sort of intercooler that's larger than stock. Any suggestions?

[cordes]

Check out the show off your FMIC thread in the fab section. There is about anything you can think of in there.

[CletusJones]

cool, thanks

[Mario]

Excellent suggestion by Brian. Perhaps that thread should be a sticky?

Cletus, what is your price range?

[BadAssPerformance]

1080 CFM Spearco fits nicely in the nose of an '87 Z

http://www.badassperformance.com/mrides/z/04_specs/spearco.jpg

[cordes]

Excellent suggestion by Brian. Perhaps that thread should be a sticky?

Cletus, what is your price range?

At this point it is all but the definative "How do I put X cooler in my (insert body style)." thread. It is at the top of the fab section usually, but is seems to get lost in the shuffle over there.

[iTurbo]

I'm putting a large NPR in my TIII Shelby Lancer project. I have one in my GLH Turbo and have been very happy with it.

[Directconnection]

Gotta post ics of your GLHT install... very nice work must say.

Large NPR is the best cooler for your buck if on a budget. Other than that, T-II triple core or Spearco... or custom spearco, etc...

[iTurbo]

Here ya go:

http://www.turbosedan.com/omni/DSC01199.JPG

http://www.turbosedan.com/omni/DSC01310.JPG

http://www.turbosedan.com/omni/DSC01196.JPG

[GLHNSLHT2]

I love the 1st gen cummins i/c in my 87 ShelbyZ.

[Dave]

Ebay is your best friend with intercooler and intercooler piping. You can snag a 1,000+ CFM 200* cooling FMIC for under $140. I used one on my Spirit and it worked great. Many others have had nothing but good things to report on them. I can't justify spending $500 on a small Spearco when for a 1/4 of that price you can get one with a larger surface area and the same flowing/cooling characteristics. You can easily get a complete DIY FMIC kit on Ebay for $300. Intercooler, aluminum pipes, clamps, couplers, etc.

[8valves]

I will pretty much never use anything but Precision Intercoolers.

You can buy a 600 HP capable cooler that can be made to fit for $350.

To get the quality of the core across, on our race car at 32 psi off of a GT45R compressor wheel the dyno room was around 60*, and the air temperature at the throttle body was 72* :eek:

[Directconnection]

Ahh... that's why they were selling the spearco I got:)

I am still pretty confident in the spearco. I am confident the core flows extremely well...especially vs an ebay cooler that dave suggested. I could be wrong, but I doubt the quality fo the core is the same, plus they probably rate the flow diferently as well. Spearco does it what.... cfm based on 1.5 psi pressure drop? Heck, a T-II cooler can flow 1,000 cfm at probably 12 cfm drop.

Looks like my next cooler for my other project may be the precision unit, though.

[Directconnection]

Ebay is your best friend with intercooler and intercooler piping. You can snag a 1,000+ CFM 200* cooling FMIC for under $140. I used one on my Spirit and it worked great. Many others have had nothing but good things to report on them. I can't justify spending $500 on a small Spearco when for a 1/4 of that price you can get one with a larger surface area and the same flowing/cooling characteristics. You can easily get a complete DIY FMIC kit on Ebay for $300. Intercooler, aluminum pipes, clamps, couplers, etc.


BTW...got a pic of this cooler you are talking about? I want to see the layout.

[Dave]

BTW...got a pic of this cooler you are talking about? I want to see the layout.

I don't have a good pic of it, it's on my dad's computer.

But mine was pretty much exactly like this listed: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/24x12x3-Intercooler-FMIC-Supra-RX7-WRX-SRT-4-3000GT-S13_W0QQitemZ250102668680QQihZ015QQcategoryZ33742Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohost ing

Still, what Aaron posted, $350 for a custom intercooler is an awesome deal. I may even find myself doing that. Reason being is that no one will sell an intercooler big enough for me. :eyebrows:

[8valves]

You mean this isn't good enough?????

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Precision-Turbo-Air-to-Air-Intercooler-Supports-825-hp_W0QQitemZ230114197508QQihZ013QQcategoryZ46096QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Try to get away with as little frontal area taken up while still performing well as possible. Trust me, eventually radiator cooling becaomes a bit more difficult.

This is the unit I was speaking of, it's not custom, and routing pipes can be a bit tougher but it's worth it in my opinion. I used the next size up last year, the 750 HP rated one... same dimensions as the 600 but 2 " taller.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Precision-Turbo-Air-to-Air-Intercooler-Supports-600-hp_W0QQitemZ230114228591QQihZ013QQcategoryZ46096QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Tony Hanna]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FMIC-GODSPEED-INTERCOOLER-SPEC-A-PRELUDE-S2000-ECLIPSE_W0QQitemZ120104810920QQihZ002QQcategoryZ33 741QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I may be wrong, but that looks like a pretty decent way to go. I've always preferred intercoolers with short cores and lots of 'em (spearco style) over what I call "bodykit filler" (intercoolers with a few really long cores)
I'm a big fan of methanol injection for reducing IAT, so I consider flow a little more important than cooling.

[Directconnection]

I've always preferred intercoolers with short cores and lots of 'em (spearco style) over what I call "bodykit filler" (intercoolers with a few really long cores)

Me too. Not knocking the Precision unit one bit as they are using the bar/plate design over tube and fin.

8valves...you got a cutaway view of the bar and plate vs tube and fin? Never wanted to cut my stock coolers open to find out, and same for the spearco I have now which is bar and plate.

[Tony Hanna]

Me too. Not knocking the Precision unit one bit as they are using the bar/plate design over tube and fin.


Yeah, me either. In fact, the one I'm running now looks really similar to the Precision cooler, it's just a bit shorter. If I can ever fit it in the budget, I'd like to pick up one of the coolers I posted the link to and do some back to back testing with the one I have now.:)

[mo' parts]

here is a site that has a few picts of tube- fin/bar-plate
http://www.are.com.au/feat/techt/focus_on_intercoolers.htm
http://www.are.com.au/feat/techt/intercooler.htm

[Dave]

Try to get away with as little frontal area taken up while still performing well as possible. Trust me, eventually radiator cooling becaomes a bit more difficult.

Aaron, I have a 36"x18"x2.5". My coolant temp never reaches higher than 190.

[iTurbo]

I've never had cooling issues in my GLH Turbo with the big NPR. The intercooler and radiator are mounted together in a sandwhich configuration. The only cooling system mods are a Derale 14" electric fan, drilled 180' T-stat, and a bottle of Royal Purple's Purple Ice (similar to Redline's Water Wetter). The core of the NPR is only 2" thick and the external fins are not very dense so air passes through easily, much better than the super dense 1" thick A/C condensor that used to be there.

[Mario]

This is the unit I was speaking of, it's not custom, and routing pipes can be a bit tougher but it's worth it in my opinion. I used the next size up last year, the 750 HP rated one... same dimensions as the 600 but 2 " taller.


I'll need some AM Performance engineering when I mount mine in the GLH. ;)