Stage 3 SRT4 ETs

[7055]

Could somebody give me about the 0-60 and Quarter mile times you would expect with a Stage 3 srt4 neon with the stock tires and a good driver? How about with slicks?

[gti_7]

Could somebody give me about the 0-60 and Quarter mile times you would expect with a Stage 3 srt4 neon with the stock tires and a good driver? How about with slicks?

Stage III will give you roughly 270+ whp, 310whp with toys.. good for high 12's.. low 13's without really trying..

0-60 stock is about 5.4.. i imagine with stage 3 will offer you about 4.5 to 60

bernard

[bansheenut420]

Could somebody give me about the 0-60 and Quarter mile times you would expect with a Stage 3 srt4 neon with the stock tires and a good driver? How about with slicks?

There is a local guy here that ran 11.6-11.7 @120 with his stage 3 set up. I have video of it. I will post a link when I get home from work in the morning. You should see the guys set up for this year, cage, chute and all! :eyebrows: I will post some pics. You can see his turbo header and turbo in the "finally a decent srt-4 header" thread on the board.

[Keito]

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98998

Stage 3 1/4 mile times list on SRT Forums.
There's 12 pages with peoples time there.

[7055]

Stage III will give you roughly 270+ whp, 310whp with toys.. good for high 12's.. low 13's without really trying..

0-60 stock is about 5.4.. i imagine with stage 3 will offer you about 4.5 to 60

bernard

Huh? Sorry but that can't be right, I think you have a typo, you say Stage 3 has only 270 whp and 310 with toys, I think you mean Stage 2. I would hope so since MoPar advertises 355 whp with Stage 3. Also, 5.4 0-60 stock is a bit fast isn't it? More like 5.8?

[contraption22]

Yeah S2 cars are putting down close to 280 at the wheels with the toys.

A local guy here put down 285whp with S2 and the Mopar Cat-Delete and cat back.

[mpboost]

S3 cars typically put down 310-320whp on pump gas with exhaust and somewhere in the 350-360whp range on race gas in high octane mode (HOM).

Most of them seem to trap in the 112 range on pump gas, and around the 115+ range on race gas. ET's on street tires are all over the place from low 13's to mid 12's. ET's with slicks are in the low 12's and high 11's.

There are also a couple S3 cars out there trapping 120+ with other mods and tuning.

I am running an FM Enforcer 1 turbo on Stage 2 right now, but have ordered the Stage 3 upgrade. I am debating whether to just throw it on, or send it to Darrell Cox Racing for some upgrades.

[Keito]

MPBoost, why are you switching?
Looking for more?
I'm currently stage 2 w/toys, and in the process of
adding an SST turbo.
I think I'll be happy with it.

[mpboost]

Yes I am always looking for more power :D

.....but mostly I am switching because Mopar Stage 3 is bolt on and go and this car is my daily driver. Even on Stage 2 with the Enforcer 1 my car is still running fairly rich. Typically my wideband will read high 10's and occasionally a low 11 AFR under wide open throttle. The turbo makes power but it definitely requires a little more tuning and tweaking to make it shine.

I've noticed that I spend way too much time tinkering with this car, and consequently I don't spend enough time working on my Aries (which still needs to be completed). The SRT became too much of a project car, and I feel like my attention is divided between the cars. I debated going back to stock, but Stage 3 was what I had really wanted all along so I took the plunge.

With the Stage 3 I will be able to enjoy my SRT more, with less tinkering, and I can focus on tuning and improving the performance of my Aries.

[R/T]

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o270/mario03srt/mariondyno.jpg
Here's one....My pal Marion's Stage 3+ SRT4....

Should be good for mid 11's... ;)

[mpboost]

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o270/mario03srt/mariondyno.jpg
Here's one....My pal Marion's Stage 3+ SRT4....

Should be good for mid 11's... ;)
:lol:

You sure it is not a Stage 1+++?

He sure has an interesting setup :nod:

[bansheenut420]

This isnt the video I thought it was, I will have to put it back on my comcast site, but this car is basically the same set up as the one I was talking about before....
http://bansheenut420.home.comcast.net/
The video is called k20 turbo Vs. boost junkie
There are also a couple of other races on there. A RT with a 50 trim Vs. a firechicken and a stage two srt 4 with toys and slicks is orlando @ midnights.
The red one I was talking about will be in the mid tens if not faster and will be competing in SFWD. Utah, Home of the fastest hondas will now have one of the fastest neons. :thumb: Link to pic of his setup ---> http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9739&page=2 It at the top of the page

[gti_7]

Huh? Sorry but that can't be right, I think you have a typo, you say Stage 3 has only 270 whp and 310 with toys, I think you mean Stage 2. I would hope so since MoPar advertises 355 whp with Stage 3. Also, 5.4 0-60 stock is a bit fast isn't it? More like 5.8?

here is a car and driver article on the '04 srt4.. as an idea of what i can do stock.. http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroadtests/7871/dodge-srt-4.html

my whp estimates were on the conservative side, a lot of people tend to inflate the horsepower numbers for this car.. Mopars listing of horsepower ratings for their stage kits are crank from what i have been told.

And many quote 1/4 ET's running slicks and not ET's with the stock rubber..

Not to mention:dynos are like basket robins ice cream, many flavors too choose from.. how much power do you want you car to make? if he's good.. your dyno tech can give you any number you want. not to mention the variations based on the number of different dyno types, variances from one dyno shop to the next, and even variances you will get on the same dyno..

1/4 mile trap is a better indicator of power, but ET's give you bragging rights.

Bernard

[psi chick]

i have never ran on street tires, only slicks, but my best et is a 11.5 @121, although my highest trap is a 124. trying for a 11.3 before swaping turbos.

[mario03SRT]

:lol:

You sure it is not a Stage 1+++?

He sure has an interesting setup :nod:

Weather permitting we'll be shakin er down at the OVC Spring Flingage. New MH 24.4/8.5/15's on Rotas and skinnies out back..............:eyebrows:

Marion

[Orangetona]

i have never ran on street tires, only slicks, but my best et is a 11.5 @121, although my highest trap is a 124. trying for a 11.3 before swaping turbos.

Hey, nice numbers! I just noticed you're from NY. Where about?

[Rhunter]

here is a car and driver article on the '04 srt4.. as an idea of what i can do stock.. http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroadtests/7871/dodge-srt-4.html

my whp estimates were on the conservative side, a lot of people tend to inflate the horsepower numbers for this car.. Mopars listing of horsepower ratings for their stage kits are crank from what i have been told.

And many quote 1/4 ET's running slicks and not ET's with the stock rubber..

Not to mention:dynos are like basket robins ice cream, many flavors too choose from.. how much power do you want you car to make? if he's good.. your dyno tech can give you any number you want. not to mention the variations based on the number of different dyno types, variances from one dyno shop to the next, and even variances you will get on the same dyno..

1/4 mile trap is a better indicator of power, but ET's give you bragging rights.

Bernard

most 04/05 SRT-4's that I've seen dyno just shy of 230whp and I'm talking stock!!! Matter of fact I used stock dyno sheets to help convince the dealership that there was a problem with my 03.

[shay]

most 04/05 SRT-4's that I've seen dyno just shy of 230whp and I'm talking stock!!! Matter of fact I used stock dyno sheets to help convince the dealership that there was a problem with my 03.
I dynoed 235whp and 252wtq when I was stock.

In fact, I think I only had roughly 2000 miles on my car.

[1qk4dr]

i have never ran on street tires, only slicks, but my best et is a 11.5 @121, although my highest trap is a 124. trying for a 11.3 before swaping turbos.

124 that's flying. A local here ran 10.19@132+ in his mustang on slicks but then he put on Street tires just to see the difference and couldn't break a 13.2,lol. I bet your car would light up a pair of street tires like no tomorrow!

[The Pope]

The problem is there are a lot of clowns out there running SRT 4s. Barely any driving and just a few brains and the stage 3 is a high 11 second car. There is a local clown here that went out and bought 16" drag radials, are you kidding? Then has larger exhaust with a stock IC. Many other mods and ran 12.85 last I watched him. BOTH SRT 4s here I've worked run faster. Clay runs a stage 1 and stock exhaust and 15" drag radials and 12.71@ 111. My brother runs 12.74@110 with slicks and a stock computer and boost control. So I guess it depends on how you drive and if you have done anything to actually use a stage 3 at all. Giant 18" wheels can take .8 in the quarter and 5 MPH away from your time slip, been there, done that. So a poor driver and a stage 3 and the rest of the car stock, yeah it might actually run a 13........

[mpboost]

I wouldn't make a blanket statement like that until you've driven a Stage 3 car. You'd be surprised how much harder it is to launch a Stage 3 car on street tires. It really makes too much power for street tires which is why its not uncommon to see a Stage 3 car run a 13 on street tires.

On the stock turbo with Stage 2 PCM control, I could cut 2.1's on 205 street tires. On the E1 with Stage 2 computer control I could still cut 2.1's on 225 street tires. On Stage 3 set to DAB 2 and no HOM, it just roasts all of first and second without really trying which in turn also makes WOT shifting 2nd into 3rd somewhat of a waste.

The first time I took it to the track with Stage 3 I was having a hell of time getting it to hook on street tires (it ran 13's @111mph full weight on DAB 2 and non-HOM all night). I tried a couple different things to no avail. And I'm not running ridiculously heavy 19" wheels, but rather lighter than stock 17" 5zigen FN01R-C's with 225's. All fast Stage 3 cars are running slicks (with a few running drag radials). You have to in order to put the power down.

In fact if you look at all the ones that are running 11's pretty much every one is on slicks running DAB 3 and HOM (many of which are also running an AGP WGA with increased boost). There is only one exception I can think of where someone is running 11's with Stage 3 on drag radials, however that particular car also traps @125mph and has plenty of other mods on top of stage 3.

[Rhunter]

The problem is there are a lot of clowns out there running SRT 4s. Barely any driving and just a few brains and the stage 3 is a high 11 second car. There is a local clown here that went out and bought 16" drag radials, are you kidding? Then has larger exhaust with a stock IC. Many other mods and ran 12.85 last I watched him. BOTH SRT 4s here I've worked run faster. Clay runs a stage 1 and stock exhaust and 15" drag radials and 12.71@ 111. My brother runs 12.74@110 with slicks and a stock computer and boost control. So I guess it depends on how you drive and if you have done anything to actually use a stage 3 at all. Giant 18" wheels can take .8 in the quarter and 5 MPH away from your time slip, been there, done that. So a poor driver and a stage 3 and the rest of the car stock, yeah it might actually run a 13........

A better indicator of S3's power is trap speed. I agree with you 100% Driver is what will decide ET more than mods. My car traps 114MPH (nitrous) but my times are mid 13's. I need a progressive controller (so I can ingage in the nitrous in 2nd instead of 3rd) and some slicks. I'm sure that would get me consistantly in the high 12's. Then once I learn how to drive (better shifting) I'm sure I could be mid 12's.

also if you guys are trapping 110 that's some pretty good HP you are putting down. I'd guestimate around 270ish?

[Tweeks_SRT-4]

The fastest SRT-4 in our Chicagoland Club has a Stage 3 w/toys and bolt on's ran a 11.72 on slicks at SRT Nats. last year.