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Rampage16V
02-11-2007, 04:18 PM
Anyone running Megasquirt with a sub-routine to run the 03 and newer crank angle sensor for spark as well?
I know there is a sub-routine for the 2002 and older neon crank sensor.

Speedeuphoria
02-11-2007, 04:55 PM
I know theres some info floating around, a thread on srtforums, and prob on neons.org

Steve Lockett is using it on the black car and likes it alot

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=299

well I looked into it for you and there was a prob w/ a 6200rpm stumble, but seems to be worked out

its close, I'm not that up on it
you could allways use the standard ms crank setup, but it looks that its very close to having a great starting map

Ondonti
02-11-2007, 07:23 PM
is that the valve float stumble?

Rampage16V
02-11-2007, 10:59 PM
thanks

Speedeuphoria
02-12-2007, 12:13 AM
is that the valve float stumble?


no dont think so, from what I read it was like a limiter, not just a prob spot. Like I said though I didnt read all of it.


Dean apparently they got it working on a newer 2.0, w/ ngc crank, w/ no probs, which as I under stand it the cranks are the same, just those fuel/spark tables would be a little different from a SRT4 setup

Speedeuphoria
02-12-2007, 09:48 AM
oh yeah make sure you put a restrictor in the block(as I dont think the srt4's came w/ anything but the gasket) and you dan go smaller than the stock td one

Speedeuphoria
02-12-2007, 09:49 AM
oh yeah make sure you put a restrictor in the block(as I dont think the srt4's came w/ anything but the gasket) and you dan go smaller than the stock td one


tell you what you'll be pulling some great times w/ the 2.4:eyebrows: , all around better design

Rampage16V
02-17-2007, 10:18 PM
oh yeah make sure you put a restrictor in the block(as I dont think the srt4's came w/ anything but the gasket) and you dan go smaller than the stock td one


tell you what you'll be pulling some great times w/ the 2.4:eyebrows: , all around better design

Even with a 2005 short block?

Ondonti
02-18-2007, 06:52 AM
no dont think so, from what I read it was like a limiter, not just a prob spot. Like I said though I didnt read all of it.


Dean apparently they got it working on a newer 2.0, w/ ngc crank, w/ no probs, which as I under stand it the cranks are the same, just those fuel/spark tables would be a little different from a SRT4 setup

The valve float issue starts at 6200rpms and kills power after that.
THere is a lot of misinformation going around about that. Darrel cox claims to have fixed the actual problem which is excess oil pressure in the head causing the lifters to overpump and preventing the valves from closing (so not really "valve float")

Seems like anyone getting into the newer 16v's should make sure they dont get to much oil pressure in the head. Not sure what DCR's "fix" fits into but its a drop in for srt 2.4's. Dont know what size restrictor to use, I would just buy his part.

Speedeuphoria
02-18-2007, 05:36 PM
Even with a 2005 short block?

especially w/ the newer block. The newer ones dont have any restrictor at all besides the headgasket. The older 2.4's (95-9x) had the same one as the common block, then at some point when teh MLS gasket came out they droped it completley.

You deff will want at least the old TD restrictor, which is ~.140" and the gasket I measured was like ~.180". I went w/ .110"

TonaChris
03-27-2007, 05:46 AM
I just got done reading that whole 958 post thread...holy crap that took forever.
Dean did you decide to go with ms? If so, hows it going?

Rampage16V
03-30-2007, 07:52 PM
I had a 140 thou restrictor in my hybrid head.
Still working on getting the short and trans in the car then is onward with the MS

Ondonti
03-30-2007, 08:48 PM
I had a 140 thou restrictor in my hybrid head.
Still working on getting the short and trans in the car then is onward with the MS

There is some helpful info in the 3.0 section at the other site. m90daytona over there got his 3.0 running on megasquirt. He did a pinout diagram for hookining the MS to each part of the car required & the relays too. I know some actual details will be quite different for you.

Rampage16V
03-30-2007, 11:13 PM
Thanks I can't wait to get at it
....you guys think this will finally make my engine compartment wiring neater!!

Speedeuphoria
03-31-2007, 08:00 AM
I had a 140 thou restrictor in my hybrid head.


a ha;) , now we know. little smaller keeps the bottom end happy

TonaChris
04-10-2007, 06:42 PM
Any updates Dean?

Rampage16V
04-10-2007, 07:58 PM
Hi,
I have bought a unit it has the version 2 board and the ms2 chip. I can use it the way it is by running a 36 tooth -1 tone wheel and crank sensor and module from a escort ..Using this set up will allow me to use the wasted spark neon coil and still run fuel and spark also a 4 wire stepper motor. Still workin on my mounts and bracketry. and cylinder head.

TonaChris
05-07-2007, 06:49 PM
Hey Dean, just ordered a megasquirt set up ready to go for the neon from rsautosport. If you specify you have the ngc crank sensor(srt4 and newwr neon) then they will upload the code for it before they ship it.
http://www.rs-autosport.net/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=9&products_id=210
Not sure how far you are on yours, but there it is incase you need it.